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Old Posted Aug 31, 2008, 9:46 PM
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...about that 2nd to last picture of the new Four Seasons tower- i wonder how long it's going to take for those OLD rusty roofed tin shacks next door to get torn down and/or replaced?? what an eyesore next to brand new luxury condos! anyone know what they're even used for, if anything?
     
     
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Great pictures, priller. Some neat angles with The Austonian. That first one especially, you can even see The Ashton poking above 100 Congress.

I took a few highway shots yesterday from Mopac. They didn't turn out that great. It was really hazy yesterday.

21Rio making an impact here. Also note the crane for Capstar at Compass Plaza.






You can see here, they had some railroad maintenance vehicles on the track. One was churning up the rocks on the tracks making a dust cloud along Mopac. The crane for Capstar at Compass Plaza here.


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...about that 2nd to last picture of the new Four Seasons tower- i wonder how long it's going to take for those OLD rusty roofed tin shacks next door to get torn down and/or replaced?? what an eyesore next to brand new luxury condos! anyone know what they're even used for, if anything?
It might be an eyesore, but those "rusty roofed tin shacks" next to the Four Seasons holds a special place in my heart. That is the University of Texas Crew boat house. I spent countless early morning hours training in that building. We are there because it is so close to the water and the owners of the building let us be there relatively rent free. The city also uses it to store all the Christmas decorations during the year. I'm sure they are just waiting for a buyer to buy that area and tear it down. But when they do, I will be sad to see it go.
     
     
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Does anybody have any new info on The Marriott Convention Center Hotel ?
Is it still going to be built ?
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I saw that same train yesterday and didn't know what to think. It looked like some strange Mad Max scene.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 3:27 AM
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LOL ah so finally I know what's going on there! I was thinking maybe it was filled with barnyard animals HEHEH

Maybe someone should consider dumping a little paint on the place. Perhaps bright neon green or hot pink?!?
     
     
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did they ever raise a tree to the top of the ashton?
     
     
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Beat me to it. I rowed novice back in 02-03. Are they still in that building?

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It might be an eyesore, but those "rusty roofed tin shacks" next to the Four Seasons holds a special place in my heart. That is the University of Texas Crew boat house. I spent countless early morning hours training in that building. We are there because it is so close to the water and the owners of the building let us be there relatively rent free. The city also uses it to store all the Christmas decorations during the year. I'm sure they are just waiting for a buyer to buy that area and tear it down. But when they do, I will be sad to see it go.
     
     
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I was thinking maybe it was filled with barnyard animals HEHEH
All you have to do is go across Waller Creek to the carriage house. It certainly smells like a barn.
     
     
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did they ever raise a tree to the top of the ashton?
I was wondering that myself. It's obviously topped out, but I walked by it a few times on the trail and on the 1st street bridge, and saw none. Maybe it's really tiny?

Otherwise, they are really tempting fate, eh? Hmmm... does no tree = cursed building?
     
     
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Is the very top of it completed? I know they had started the base of the the very top, but I don't think they've finished the very top yet, have they?
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During the Bat Fest & Human Race, I saw what looked like the curved roof, and no rebar any higher than that... so I really think it's topped out, but I could be wrong.
     
     
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yes i believe it is topped out and when they fill in the gap it will be for shure. It does look taller than 1 congress and has changed the skyline but now that the austonian is popping up it will become more just a part of it. will the w take as long as the ashton to reach above ground?
     
     
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Does anybody have any new info on The Marriott Convention Center Hotel ?
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Commission votes brings Marriott construction closer

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Developers of a planned $185 million Marriott Hotel complex moved a step closer to tearing down the small buildings currently housing the Las Manitas Café and two relocated businesses last week as the Historic Landmark Commission rejected a motion to begin historic zoning cases on the properties.



Prior occupants Tesoros Trading Company and Escuelita del Alma Child Care Center have left Congress Avenue, each relocating outside downtown. Commission debate centered over whether the Congress Avenue buildings qualified for historic designation.



Commissioner Patti Hansen, among others, was not pleased that many of the questions she posed about the historic integrity of the building and its history remained unanswered. Historic Preservation Officer Steve Sadowsky, who was in charge of the case, was absent from Monday night’s meeting. Colleague Susan Villarreal presented the case in Sadowsky’s absence.



Sadowsky had recommended the demolition permits on the 200 block of Congress Avenue, which includes addresses at 209, 211 and 213 Congress. Most of the buildings on the block were built in the early 1900s.



During much of its early history, the three-story Travis Hotel dominated the block. It sat across Congress from the city’s railroad station. Sometime before 1935, the top two stories were pulled off the Travis Hotel and the ground floor served a variety of functions, from cafes to the Rollings Pool Co. in the 1970s.



Cynthia Perez of Las Manitas was on hand to argue against the demolition. Perez noted she was alone because many of those who fought for Las Manitas and Escuelita del Alma had given up hope. She talked about the goal to create a space that would provide a bridge for new and old city leaders.



“My fight is not with my landlord,” Perez said. “My fight is with my city, and the direction it was growing and the benefit it was doing for the larger corporation.”



Hansen said Villarreal’s recitation of the facts in Sadowsky’s report still did not answer the issues she wanted to address: What in the current building was architecturally new and architecturally old? What is left of the original materials in the façade in the building?



Sadowsky recommended approving the demolition permits, with the proper Historic American Building survey of the buildings.



Attorney Michael Whellan, who represented the developer, argued that various parts of the building had been constructed and reconstructed over the years. He noted a portion of wall on the former Tesoros that might have indicated the end cap was bricked over more recently.



In his rebuttal, Whellan noted that Las Manitas – and its purpose as a bridge – was not lost. It was simply moving up the block to property owned by Perez.



Sadowsky’s report noted that the Pearl House on the corner, currently serving as the La Pena Art Gallery, was the only building to maintain its historic integrity. But that storefront looked the same as its neighbors, Hansen said. Even if the current balance of the structure was not the first version of the building, wouldn’t the existing framework still be historical? Hansen asked.



Terri Myers, the newest member on the Historic Landmark Commission, agreed with her. Whether the Travis Hotel was demolished or burned or somewhat went away, the existing structure still remains intact.



“They have not lost their historic character,” Meyers said. “And they were noted in the 1984 (city historic structure) survey as a Priority II. They exhibit, intact, the qualities of that period. We should spend a little more time researching this.”



Chair Laurie Limbacher recused herself from the Congress Avenue discussion because a former employee was a member of the Finley family, leaving only six commissioners to make a decision.



Myers moved for initiation of historic zoning. Hansen and Commissioner Dan Leary joined her, with Commissioners John Rosato and Timothy Cuppett and Joe Arriaga voting no. After the 3-3 vote, which resolved nothing, Leary asked for the vote to be reconsidered. He then changed his vote from yes to no, making it 4-2 against.

On Friday, Villarreal told In Fact Daily that the demolition permit is still pending. “In our national register historic districts, we normally review the plans for construction,” before the demolition permit is released. The city has not yet seen the plans.
     
     
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Spring is moving along nicely and is only a few floors shorter than Monarch. They seem determined to get this building done as fast as possible...maybe it's something to do with it's compact foot print. But I think it has alot to do with getting the units online for purchase. I assume they will have many available units when it is complete. Since the 1st time I saw Spring I was very excited about it's point tower design. They have a lot of glass in already and it looks like a great color scheme. I need to get some pics soon maybe this weekend.
     
     
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I did some pano shots this weekend but the close ups were not working so here are a comparison of the same angle from May '07, Jan. '08, and Sept. '08.

May '07


January '08


September '08
     
     
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There's really not much to write home about with those buildings on the Marriott site. No special ornamentation on their facades. Infact, the only thing I'll miss on that block is the mural on the south side. I didn't even realize they were that old. Early 1900s? I had no idea.

Great pics, ivanwolf. Our skyline is getting impressive.
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There's really not much to write home about with those buildings on the Marriott site. No special ornamentation on their facades. Infact, the only thing I'll miss on that block is the mural on the south side. I didn't even realize they were that old. Early 1900s? I had no idea.
Looks like Mariott site just made some major progress today, from the Statesman:

Las Manitas closes its doors

By Shonda Novak | Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 11:07 AM

Las Manitas, the popular Tex-Mex restaurant that has been a Congress Avenue landmark for more than 25 years, has closed its doors.

A bewildered customer was tugging on the door this morning, surprised to find that it was locked. Inside, the booths and tables were gone.

The Perez sisters who own the restaurant had been under an Aug. 31 deadline to close down. The owner of the building has sold it for construction of a 1,000-room Marriott convention hotel.

The sisters earlier said they would reopen in a building they own at Congress and Third Street. But city records don’t indicate any permits have been requested for that location. Lidia Perez could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile, the developers have applied for demolition permits for the restaurant and adjacent buildings. Construction on the hotel is expected to start next year.

The closing ends the nearly 2-year saga which turned into a citywide debate over development versus protecting longtime locally owned businesses downtown.

Amid a wave of protest from Las Manitas’ many fans, the City Council last year approved a $750,000 forgivable loan for the sisters to renovate the other building so the restaurant could stay in business.

The sisters later rejected the loan, saying it had too many conditions.

Then landowner Tim Finley offered the sisters a low-interest loan so they could move.

“While their building does not seem to be remodeled yet, they are honoring their commitment to terminate their occupancy at their old location. A confidentiality agreement with Las Manitas prevents me from commenting further,” Finley said.

The Tesoros folk art store next door has already moved to South Congress. The Escuelita del Alma day care soon will move to a new site in East Austin.

Manuel Zala, manager of Copa Bar & Grill on the same block, said the businesses will be missed, and that that section of Congress will never look the same.

“A lot of people will miss the atmosphere and miss the old strip, and especially the way the Manitas restaurant and Tosoros and Escuelita look like.”
     
     
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This updated article about Las Manitas and the Marriott describes the hotel as 26 stories:

"The original restaurant and adjacent buildings will be torn down to make way for a 1,000-room, 26-story Marriott convention hotel."

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/09/04/0904lasmanitas.html

What a disappointment if the Statesman has it correct. That's only about 260'. I was hoping for something about 40 stories. At 260' feet or so it won't even make an impact on the skyline.
     
     
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Well, even at 26 floors, it should be about 300 feet or so, maybe a little taller. I'd guess at least as tall as 301 Congress to the north. With the elimination of the two shorter towers, I'm surprised to hear that it's still only 26 floors. And infact, at one point it was said to be 34 floors. I'm still thinking we may hear about a taller redesign.
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