PHILADELPHIA | American Commerce Center | 1,510' Pinnacle / 1,210' Roof | 63 FLOORS - Page 42

theWatusi · #**821** Posted **Jul 24, 2008, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by pentopaper50

So I guess that makes me the opposite of a NIMBY -- an IMBY? :-)

That would make you a YIMBY

PhillyBoy · #**822** Posted **Aug 1, 2008, 8:19 PM**

cant wait to see it if it breaks ground

SJPhillyBoy · #**823** Posted **Aug 2, 2008, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhillyBoy

cant wait to see it if it breaks ground

That is Bradley R. Maule's photo from www.phillyskyline.com

I can't wait for ground breaking on this either, but patience is of the essence, as it will most likely be a couple of years before construction actually gets off the ground. I am very optimistic it will happen though.

TechTalkGuy · #**824** Posted **Aug 2, 2008, 4:18 PM**

Look how long Comcast Center took - trust me, it's worth the wait!

Swinefeld · #**825** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 1:56 PM**

Hey, guys, the ACC Tower's website has been updated with lots of new renderings and features. My favorite is the compare buildings link. Check it out! Give it a minute for it to upload.

http://www.acctower.com/

Muji · #**826** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 3:09 PM**

I don't recall this being mentioned before...but it's very exciting! Taken from the "LEED" page of ACC's website.

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By design, the American Commerce Center will incorporate an additional subway stop on SEPTA’s Market Frankford EL line on site. This green construction element not only encourages public transportation for employees and clients but for the entire city. Because public transportation currently does not offer a stop between 15th Street and 30th Street Station, SEPTA alienates major parts of Center City from one another. By adding this subway station beneath the building, the American Commerce Center will effectively connect University City with Center City, increase business activity and encourage further development of the areas surrounding 18th and Arch.

cjPhilly · #**827** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 3:19 PM**

I was just going to ask about that as well. Has anyone heard anything else about this additional subway stop?

Lincolndrive · #**828** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 4:07 PM**

Hi Everyone,

I'm fairly sure many of you know about this website but as a reminder, if you can take 30 seconds in your day to visit this website you can tell Councilman Darell Clark that you support the ACC project.

http://www.lsn4acc.com/Show_Your_Support.html

The note is already written for you and the more support he sees, the better chance we can see this project turn into a reality since there are zoning issues.

It literally takes about 20 seconds to do this and you can always send in more than one! Do eeeiit.

looper121 · #**829** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 4:11 PM**

Done! maybe 20 seconds.

Anything to get this puppy going.

BuildItUp · #**830** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolndrive

Hi Everyone,

I'm fairly sure many of you know about this website but as a reminder, if you can take 30 seconds in your day to visit this website you can tell Councilman Darell Clark that you support the ACC project.

http://www.lsn4acc.com/Show_Your_Support.html

The note is already written for you and the more support he sees, the better chance we can see this project turn into a reality since there are zoning issues.

It literally takes about 20 seconds to do this and you can always send in more than one! Do eeeiit.

Thanks Lincoln, I tried to do my part but I think the website is down. "The server at sitesupport.websitetonight.com is taking too long to respond."

Lincolndrive · #**831** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by BuildItUp

Thanks Lincoln, I tried to do my part but I think the website is down. "The server at sitesupport.websitetonight.com is taking too long to respond."

Well hopefully thats because so many people are sending in letters! Its up again now for what its worth. http://www.lsn4acc.com/Show_Your_Support.html

skellergroup · #**832** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 10:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by cjPhilly

I was just going to ask about that as well. Has anyone heard anything else about this additional subway stop?

No, but an 19th/18th street stop would be great for the city.

tua21506 · #**833** Posted **Aug 5, 2008, 2:15 AM**

I guess the hight on the first page needs to be updated..1,510...I like it when it grows in hight....maybe they will make it taller.....

skyscraper · #**834** Posted **Aug 5, 2008, 2:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by cjPhilly

I was just going to ask about that as well. Has anyone heard anything else about this additional subway stop?

Is this in addition to extending the suburban station concourse to the acc center or instead of?

winxs · #**835** Posted **Aug 5, 2008, 5:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by skyscraper

Is this in addition to extending the suburban station concourse to the acc center or instead of?

I would think it would be all one. Right now, the 15th St Station of MFL is connected to the Suburban Sta concourse as is BSL's City Hall Station (you do have to go through a series of doorways and walk down some corridors a bit). If they build the station underneath 18th and Market, they would just build a corridor underneath 18th from Market to Arch St and extend Suburban Station with a corridor for another 1/2 block from the end of the Comcast Marketplace up to 18th St. If you look at the map I linked to below, you can see that the Regional Rail platforms nearly reach 18th St as it is now. Of course all that noise underground might disturb the blue hair brigade from the Commie blocks. (I say we confiscate their hearing aids.)

If you know your way, you can pretty much walk underground from Comcast all the way down to 7th St. CLICK HERE for map. The area from City Hall to the Market East Station can be a bit dicey, but with the rehab planned for City Hall station, that might get fixed up.

Ninjawho · #**836** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 1:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by tua21506

I guess the hight on the first page needs to be updated..1,510...I like it when it grows in hight....maybe they will make it taller.....

Done

scalziand · #**837** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 1:44 AM**

^^Don't forget the thread title.

volguus zildrohar · #**838** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 3:00 AM**

I don't see how WSC could possibly do that.

A) The Market Street subway is city property. The city doesn't have that kind of cash.

B) The Subway is leased to SEPTA. SEPTA isn't going to commit that kind of money to something that big right now between the MSE project and the acquisition of new railcars.

C) Anything of that nature is wayyyyyyyy beyond the jurisdiction of a private entity. As ambitious as this whole project is, this company has never developed anything of this scale before. Adding a subway station, while nice, is kind of wearing too many hats for them.

I came across this on PhillyBlog as well - The El will not be re-routed and station construction would be a major physical undertaking, requiring a realignment of the current four track configuration of the subway and widening of the tunnel possibly encroaching on property lines and I don't know if eminent domain can be claimed on skyscraper sub-basements.

I'd love to see it happen (it would be quite convenient for me) but it doesn't look possible right now to me. And personally if I were placing the station I would make 19th Street a transfer station - it's a convergence point for several bus routes and kind of a center point between the Rittenhouse Square area and the Parkway area, north to south. Since ACC would rise on 19th Street anyway, bringing the concourse down there to Market would work too (on paper, anyway).

Ninjawho · #**839** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 12:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by scalziand

^^Don't forget the thread title.

I can't do that...admin has to

christof · #**840** Posted **Aug 6, 2008, 6:08 PM**

It would also be foolish to put an el stop at 18th. Currently, there are stops at 11th, 13th, and 15th. If anything the 13th St station should be shut, and a new one open - not at 18th but at 20th.