Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[TANGELD_SLC]

Thanks for using my pic Urbanboy I think it's best angle so far Too bad the Wasatch partners twin towers are only imaginary.... could you use that program to show us what an 800ft tower would look like in our skyline? Or are those about 800ft?

[TANGELD_SLC]

Those kirtland condos are :S

[TANGELD_SLC]

Gross. I mean, GAWL just look at them.....

[Future Mayor]

While I'm not a huge fan of the Kirtland condos, I don't think they are hideous. I'm no artchitect but I do like that the city is gettting a wide variety of archtiecture and i think that deversifies the city even more. I'm sure there are those out there that love the design. Many of you like the International Style of architecture, (Ken Garff bldg, Public Services bldg) yet I continue to feel that they are very ugly.

Aren't opinions great.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

While I'm not a huge fan of the Kirtland condos, I don't think they are hideous. I'm no artchitect but I do like that the city is gettting a wide variety of archtiecture and i think that deversifies the city even more. I'm sure there are those out there that love the design. Many of you like the International Style of architecture, (Ken Garff bldg, Public Services bldg) yet I continue to feel that they are very ugly.

Aren't opinions great.

hehe... that you would even mention the Kirtland condos and the Ken Garff building in the same paragraph appalls me.

[Future Mayor]

As for the discussion regarding the Millcreek S. SL merge. I would venture to guess that the residential property taxes in the Millcreek area would initially go up as they recently did when Cottonwood Heights incorporated. Just as Cottonwood Heights was, Millcreek is unicoporated Salt Lake County and thus the property tax in the area is based on the financial needs of the county. Millcreek is a township but the township is not a governing body it is simply in place to help control zoning in the area.

There was discussion on the "what is your vision of SLC" thread as there has been on here regarding the population of SLC, while yes it would be nice to have a the population increase I think it would drastically change much of the character of the city. In my opinion some annexing would make sense, Magna (unicorporated county), Millcreek (unicorporated county) and S. Salt Lake. The two county parcels would be the most logical and less complicated, and I think with Rocky being out of office there would be at least a few less residents of those areas that would fight it. Annexing anything past S. SL would be much to politically difficult. Often times the only times smaller cities will choose to be encorporated into the larger city is is they are financially strapped and see no way to solve the problem on their own. With that said, as long as the Wasatch and the cities in the valley are continuing to grow economically I don't anticipate them willingly incorporating into to SLC. They all have pride in their own community and unless they are drowning they aren't going to accept the help.

So what would the population of SLC be if Millcreek and Magna were incorporated?

In my opinion, Cottonwood Heights incorporating does nothing to effect the SLC population. Since Cottonwood Heights was part of the county the only population # it effects is it's own. The county population stays the same as does SLC's population. Cottonwood Heights most likely felt that it was benificial to incoporate in order to control development and zoning. Millcreek had zoning control yet the county still had the ultimate power to do what it felt was best. That is a large reason why CH choose to incorporate.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by TANGELD_SLC

Those condos are the Epitome of bad design. EW!

My biggest problem with the Kirtland is the type of exterior materials used in several areas such as the gray portion, and also the bare concrete. The cornice is particularly awkward in it's design, as well the poor choice of finish material on the cornice surface. That upper left corner could have been much more attractive as an angular pop-out, similar to some of the features of the Metro. A big improvement could be made on this project with a little good taste in choice of materials in several different places on the building, and the cornice design and cornice material.

edit: looking at the pictured elevation a little more, I can't help but think how much more attractive it would be if the angular feature and attractive windows of the element immediately to the right of the concrete were to be repeated at the upper left corner pop-out. Also, perhaps the far right corner and windows given the same treatment, but not repeating the color scheme or material, but using a brushed steel instead, as with the Metro.


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[Northernlad]

They do not look like living quarters but more like an industrial building or similar.

[T-Mac]

Just think, you could pay upwards of $650,000 to live in that.

[DENrising]

Originally Posted by Northernlad

They do not look like living quarters but more like an industrial building or similar.

I like em, it is reminiscent of a style I've seen in the Pac NW, Seattle area.

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by delts145

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I don't mind the overall massing of the building, but the exterior finish materials look like a cheaper version of what was probably intended.

Especially the corrugated metal roof and fascia on the sides. I can't imagine that being any architect's first choice of finish material.

[urbanboy]

The colors clash, especially the reds.

Originally Posted by TANGELD_SLC

Thanks for using my pic Urbanboy I think it's best angle so far Too bad the Wasatch partners twin towers are only imaginary.... could you use that program to show us what an 800ft tower would look like in our skyline? Or are those about 800ft?

Yeah, about 750. 800 with the spire.

[SLC Projects]

I don't think the Kirtland condos looks THAT bad. Could be worst.
I'm now a dead man.

[WASDEN]

Well not the greatest materials, but at least it ain't stucco. Overall I don't think Kirtland looks too bad, but the mass of concrete that greets you at the street level is rancid. Its just screaming for some punk with a bottle of spray paint.

[leerjet]

Originally Posted by WASDEN

Its just screaming for some punk with a bottle of spray paint.

I just bought some new colors... let's hit it!

[delts145]

Originally Posted by leerjet

I just bought some new colors... let's hit it!

LOL...

[aspiringArchitect]

OK, I have an idea. It may sound crazy, but here it goes....

What if Salt Lake were to expand it's downtown?

I think that the area west of the Gateway Mall, and between the highway, has a ton of of potential to become the next hot spot. Build mid-rise, mixed use, condos and office buildings, fill up th ground levels with unique stores and restaurants, add some cool parks and mass transit, and voila!

Yes, this may sound much like what Portland has done with it's Pearl District. And, yea, that's where I got the idea from. I love what the city has done by turning a bunch of run-down warehouses into one of the most happening neighborhoods in the country. I think SLC has a bunch of potential, and if they worked at it, they would be able to pull something like this off.

I made up a map on Google Earth to show you guys what area I'm talking about, but I don't know how to post the pictures from my computer onto this website. Can someone please tell me?

In the mean time, if you're not familiar with the Pearl, here is a thread someone started here on SSP that has a bunch of pictures:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=154578

[RFPCME]

Originally Posted by Stenar

hehe... that you would even mention the Kirtland condos and the Ken Garff building in the same paragraph appalls me.

Stenar: Me too! I find it appalling the Kirtland condos and the Ken Garff Bldg. were mentioned in the same sentence. I think the Condos are far better...so much for any credibility I may have had on this forum. Oh, well...I just can't stand the Garff Bldg.

That said, I am reserving judgment on the Condos until they are complete, with landscaping. But I suspect you may be right. The Condos may be an example of instant urban blight.

[Justnslcsugarhood.]

Originally Posted by aspiringArchitect

OK, I have an idea. It may sound crazy, but here it goes....

What if Salt Lake were to expand it's downtown?

I think that the area west of the Gateway Mall, and between the highway, has a ton of of potential to become the next hot spot. Build mid-rise, mixed use, condos and office buildings, fill up th ground levels with unique stores and restaurants, add some cool parks and mass transit, and voila!

Yes, this may sound much like what Portland has done with it's Pearl District. And, yea, that's where I got the idea from. I love what the city has done by turning a bunch of run-down warehouses into one of the most happening neighborhoods in the country. I think SLC has a bunch of potential, and if they worked at it, they would be able to pull something like this off.

I made up a map on Google Earth to show you guys what area I'm talking about, but I don't know how to post the pictures from my computer onto this website. Can someone please tell me?

In the mean time, if you're not familiar with the Pearl, here is a thread someone started here on SSP that has a bunch of pictures:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=154578

I think your right and I think we are heading in that direction fairly quickly. Also I think the area immediately west of the CBD has so many dilapidated parking lots that can and are being utilized that in about five years we will have a very different street level in that area.

[urbanboy]

The Ken Garff Building has grown on me. I think it fits in wonderfully with Salt Lake City's diverse architecture portfolio.