Salt Lake:Official development news thread - Page 314

delts145 · #**6261** Posted **Aug 2, 2008, 11:07 AM**

Moved from MSA Thread

Can anyone give us some kind of idea of the tax situation with So. SL and Milcreek, if they were to be incorporated into Salt Lake? Would the residents of Millcreek's property taxes and services remain steady, or would there be a spike?

I know that South Salt Lake is trying to convince Millcreek to join with them. South Salt Lake needs the posher residential, while Millcreek could use the more industrial base. Usually when residents are opposed to incorporation into another city, it's because of a raise in the cost of services/taxes.

Also, with what Stenar said regarding Salt Lake's northwest sector for big growth potential. What do the prognosticators figure the build-out population would be of that sector when it is developed?

Reponse, Stenar:

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Originally Posted by Stenar

I don't think Millcreek's taxes could possibly go up. They have ZERO commercial to bring in tax dollars so residents have to make up for all of that. So. Salt Lake has tons of commercial, but not as many residents. It would be a natural progression for them to incorporate into SLC. So. SL almost incorporated into SLC back in the '30s or so I read recently... maybe it was earlier than the '30s. I forget exactly.

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Originally Posted by Stenar

I was just looking all over the web and couldn't find anything definitive. One article I read said the city council wanted to develop homes for 25,000 residents there. I'm quite certain the Kennecott Land document that I saw listed 40,000 population for the NW quadrant, but I checked the Kennecott Land website and they've pulled all of their documents listing potential new development sites. I guess this is because of their spat with the county (and the downturn in housing because of the mortgage meltdown).

Question?

Thanks Stenar for the response, I thought I would put this here over on the SLC proper thread. I know in some ways the actual size of Salt Lake is a persception problem, but you know what they say, "Persception is everything." Would there be any of you forumers that would be willing to send the Mayor an e-mail on the matter? Especially Millcreek, would seem to be an excellent candidate to bring into the SLC fold. Perhaps, So. Salt Lake would be a bit of a political problem, but why couldn't they maintain a district council and phase the mayor situation out as the term expires.

RFPCME · #**6262** Posted **Aug 2, 2008, 1:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

I just don't want people to have false hope.

Hey, I'm a liberal. I'm used to disappointment.

delts145 · #**6263** Posted **Aug 2, 2008, 2:34 PM**

The sad thing would be to look at the billions upon billions that have gone into SLC proper's development and infrastructure over the last 10 years and still have a cynical attitude. Salt Lake City has done nothing but exceed and beat my loftiest expectations.

RFPCME · #**6264** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

The sad thing would be to look at the billions upon billions that have gone into SLC proper's development and infrastructure over the last 10 years and still have a cynical attitude. Salt Lake City has done nothing but exceed and beat my loftiest expectations.

Delts: Good point. I think SLC has surprised everyone! It has always had great potential, but now that potential seems within reach.

...except Sandy, of course.

Viperlord · #**6265** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 3:53 AM**

Former nightclub burned overnight

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3920009

(KSL News) Flames shot out of an old nightclub in downtown Salt Lake this morning.

Fire officials tell us the fire started around 1:00 this morning at what used to be Club Axis, at 100 South and 500 West. It took 56 firefighters roughly three hours to get the blaze under control.

The entire roof collapsed and the rest of the vacant building suffered heavy smoke and water damage. No one was hurt.

Investigators say it was human-caused and are now looking for anyone who may have some information.

man, not a good year for club buildings....

jmonkey · #**6266** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 4:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Viperlord

Former nightclub burned overnight

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3920009

(KSL News) Flames shot out of an old nightclub in downtown Salt Lake this morning.

Fire officials tell us the fire started around 1:00 this morning at what used to be Club Axis, at 100 South and 500 West. It took 56 firefighters roughly three hours to get the blaze under control.

The entire roof collapsed and the rest of the vacant building suffered heavy smoke and water damage. No one was hurt.

Investigators say it was human-caused and are now looking for anyone who may have some information.

man, not a good year for club buildings....

not as bad as losing the building that DVD was in, or the future loss of the Shubrick. But it is kind of sad in a nostalgic way. I had some good times in that building. It was even rebuilt after the tornado--guess it's a goner now.

Clears the space for taller mixed use or residential though.

jmonkey · #**6267** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 5:07 AM**

Delts and RFPCME, I totally agree about Salt Lake City rapidly exceeding expectations. I've lived here for over 15 years now, and it seems like the city has an entirely different personality and charm than it did in the mid 90's. I'm continually pleased about my city. Other than air quality and traffic, it's pretty much a perfect place for me right now. I've made this city my home and been really happy about it, even if there are a lot of considerations against staying in Utah much longer. I love Utah, but sometimes, I just get so.....

It sucks being liberal in Utah.

delts145 · #**6268** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 11:54 AM**

I appreciate what your saying Jmonkey. I think that the major and positive changes which have occurred downtown and around town over the past decade, will only gain momentum over the next ten years. Even more mass-transit, upscale and variety of shopping choices, more direct international destinations, more residential/mixed-use infill and more towers etc. In short, a lot more choices on every front.

ski_steve · #**6269** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 5:33 PM**

Odd Fellows moving job may start Monday

By Jared Page
Deseret News

Five million pounds of brick and mortar will gradually make its way across Market Street over the next 2 1/2 months — all in one tedious and technical trip.

After nearly six months of preparation, construction crews as soon as Monday will begin uprooting the historic Odd Fellows Hall from its 117-year home at 39 W. Market St...

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,700248039,00.html

ski_steve · #**6270** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 5:36 PM**

Planners delay decision on Sugar House block

Development plans for the southwest corner of 2100 South and Highland Drive are on hold again — this time courtesy of the Salt Lake City Planning Commission.

Citing concerns about pedestrian access, traffic and cohesiveness with neighboring development plans, the Planning Commission late Wednesday night put off making a decision on Craig Mecham's planned 4 1/2-acre development of residential, retail and office space until Aug. 13 at the soonest...

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,700247289,00.html

stop delaying grrr

Justnslcsugarhood. · #**6271** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 11:54 PM**

Just out of curiosity how much time is it going to take to get the sugarhouse project good and going in your oppinions? It seems like its such a lucrative place for realestate and commerce that It should have just blossumed.
I hate the overall project but it needs to get set and done and fast. If they bring in some local tenants, new or old, I wouldn't care as much. If they braugth in some unique stores like French Conection United Kingdome, or American Aparel it would still make sugar house commons an experience not just a shoping destination, however, if they bring in something that is all over the vally no one will come to sugar house and it will tank the neighboorhoods apparel.

Justnslcsugarhood. · #**6272** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 11:56 PM**

Wow sorry for the spelling errors.

Justnslcsugarhood. · #**6273** Posted **Aug 3, 2008, 11:57 PM**

This may be a bit less nerve rattling to read:

Just out of curiosity how much time is it going to take to get the sugarhouse project good and going in your opinions? It seems like it’s a lucrative place for real-estate and commerce that it should have just blossomed.
I hate the overall project but it needs to get set and done and fast. If they bring in some local tenants, new or old, I wouldn't care as much. If they brought in some unique stores like French Connection United Kingdome, or American Apparel it would still make sugar house commons an experience not just a shopping destination, however, if they bring in something that is all over the valley no one will come to sugar house and it will tank the neighborhoods apparel.

T-Mac · #**6274** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 12:02 AM**

Kirtland Condos

UTAZLoVer · #**6275** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 12:42 AM**

still just such an akward looking development in my opinion. my hopes are they can fill them up and hopefully more (and more aesthetically pleasing) development will continue in the area....

Stenar · #**6276** Posted **Aug 4, 2008, 1:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by UTAZLoVer

still just such an akward looking development in my opinion. my hopes are they can fill them up and hopefully more (and more aesthetically pleasing) development will continue in the area....

And those photos don't show how "awkward" or crappy that building really looks. It actually doesn't look so bad in those photos, but the North and South Elevations (which you see when driving up and down 300 West) are really hideous.