Mobile Development Thread

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by Muskavon

Although a lot could change about where the highway would ultimately be (if it ever happens at all), the reason I thought it was "odd" was how far east in Baldwin County they are currently looking and not necessarily connecting up with the Foley Beach Expressway. As you say, that could certainly spur yet more growth across the county, further sprawling Pensacola and Mobile together....but the funny part to me is it actually seems like that route currently would actually be helping relieve problems for Pensacola area residents more than anyone else.

Of course, being a resident of P'cola and knowing my state will probably never actually help us get to I-65 in my children's lifetime, I guess I'm happy that Alabama keeps helping us out (first 4-laning Highway 113 and now maybe this).

Haha, we're just such charitable people. Of course, maybe all this would help spur a regional inter-state alliance between Mobile and Pensecola. Imagine what a rain line extending from Mobile, through northern Baldwin, to Pensecola could do for the region.

[MobiMan]

It could actually hurt the city of Mobile, People coming from the north could bypass the City, they would take 65 South to I-10 then head West to wherever they are going, then the others coming from the North going to Florida would take the new route, leaving us in the bottom center of a triangle
it may help our traffic problem at the Tunnels, But may hurt us as well, We would still get the people from coastal Mississippi and the Western and Southwestern part of the United States, traveling to Florida and of course people from Florida going Westward, But it would affect us from the North and from the south ,for the people from Baldwin County and Pensacola that need to go North, they would just take the new route, So here we are again if this thing takes place, needing to bring more attractions here to bring more people to Mobile, Now thats the negative side of it, other than the evacuation part what would be the good points for Mobile, less traffic at the Tunnels,

Also they are building North of Mobile adding a Mall the Motorsports Park, just the Mall will stop people from up north from coming to Mobile to shop at our Mall, and now the eastern shore is adding even more shopping so that stops even more from coming from the east, we are in the middle the City needs to step in and figure some things out before we are left out

[Del]

Looks like the waterfront access at Arlington is really going to happen:

New park to open in Mobile

The plan drawings can be seen on the accompanying video.

[CottonCity251]

Originally Posted by MobiMan

Also they are building North of Mobile adding a Mall the Motorsports Park, just the Mall will stop people from up north from coming to Mobile to shop at our Mall, and now the eastern shore is adding even more shopping so that stops even more from coming from the east, we are in the middle the City needs to step in and figure some things out before we are left out

I don't think Bel Air Mall will be left behind, or Springdale Mall for that matter. If none other, people in Mobile and points southward and west support the mall, hence, making it the regional shopping center. Don't forget, just because you see people shopping at Tanger Outlet in Foley or the Eastern Shore Centre in Malbis doesn't mean they don't shop in Mobile. I think the entire area enjoys the shopping options we have and use them all accordingly...like I do. More shopping is needed as the area continues to grow and I believe we have enough people to support all of them.

[phoenixboi08]

I'd love to see pedestrian bridges like this used in Mobile someday

[NitekKetin]

Yes, Bel Air is pretty much established as a strong regional shopping center. It didn't exactly falter when ESC and Jubilee Square and a host of retail developments came online in the last decade, so I think it can withstand competition from commercial developments in north Mobile.

I don't think the development at AL 158/I-65 is going to be a conventional, department store-anchored mall. Its 95 acre site is a tad too small. It is probably going to be an open-air power center with big box/category killer anchors, such as Costco, Kohls and Target.

[MobiMan]

I believe its gonna hurt more than you think, the type of people frequenting Bel Air are socializing more so than buying...well excuse me actually since the stimulus checks yes sales are up , but before the stimulus checks they were flat...and when these new Malls open curiosity will take most folks to them, people love to shop at new stores even if they wear the same name... Bel Air isnt so great anymore,,, Target is supose to be relocating in the near future some time, which in my opinion is great, Wal-Mart, and Target, type stores dont belong in Mall's, i shop at all the Mall,s in our area but i shop Bel Air most only because its close, but i know quite a few people who dont shop Bel Air at all, they take the trip across the bay and will soon travel north of here also...but think of all the people that come here from up there only because this is the only close place for them to shop... the main thing that helps Bel Air is that the big name stores are bigger and have more to chose from, well we do have the largest Mall on the Gulf Coast so we do have more stores, but still the mall will feel a little discomfort, Mobile just needs better choices, something new

[mobile]

I know there is probably a good reason but why can’t the I-10 Bridge just be built right over the tunnel? Also, do the tunnels affect the size of ship that can pass through or do they go underground? I think they just go underwater and if so, then if they do build the bridge are they gonna tear down the tunnels? Thanks

[mobile]

Originally Posted by phoenixboi08

I'd love to see pedestrian bridges like this used in Mobile someday

It would be nice to have pedestrian bridges like that to get across Water and Government St. Except we could make ours that Aqua green color that Downtown Mobile likes to use. (The Convention Centers roof and the spire of the RSA tower)

[pboo74]

Has anyone been to the meetings about downtown yet?If so keep us posted,And I really believe that we could use a big movie theatre downtown like a Rave or a Monaco that would be nice.What do you guys think?

[mobile]

Originally Posted by pboo74

Has anyone been to the meetings about downtown yet?If so keep us posted,And I really believe that we could use a big movie theatre downtown like a Rave or a Monaco that would be nice.What do you guys think?

Yeah the Rave in Montgomery is alsome.

[NitekKetin]

Originally Posted by mobile

I know there is probably a good reason but why can’t the I-10 Bridge just be built right over the tunnel? Also, do the tunnels affect the size of ship that can pass through or do they go underground? I think they just go underwater and if so, then if they do build the bridge are they gonna tear down the tunnels? Thanks

Placing the foundations for the bridge itself in Downtown and on Blakeley Island would be rather tricky. Honestly, I just don't see an I-10 bridge working anywhere around the Downtown area.

As for the tunnels, they are actually constructed underneath the riverbed itself. Even so, I still think they are susceptible to damage from wayward ship anchors, at least according to a Press-Register article from a while ago.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by MobiMan

It could actually hurt the city of Mobile, People coming from the north could bypass the City, they would take 65 South to I-10 then head West to wherever they are going, then the others coming from the North going to Florida would take the new route, leaving us in the bottom center of a triangle
it may help our traffic problem at the Tunnels, But may hurt us as well, We would still get the people from coastal Mississippi and the Western and Southwestern part of the United States, traveling to Florida and of course people from Florida going Westward, But it would affect us from the North and from the south ,for the people from Baldwin County and Pensacola that need to go North, they would just take the new route, So here we are again if this thing takes place, needing to bring more attractions here to bring more people to Mobile, Now thats the negative side of it, other than the evacuation part what would be the good points for Mobile, less traffic at the Tunnels,

Also they are building North of Mobile adding a Mall the Motorsports Park, just the Mall will stop people from up north from coming to Mobile to shop at our Mall, and now the eastern shore is adding even more shopping so that stops even more from coming from the east, we are in the middle the City needs to step in and figure some things out before we are left out

you're very right about that. but, we can't know until the state steps up and the area governments step up to see what's going on. so far, it doesn't appear that that's being done.

[mobile]

If they do, I think it would look good in our city skyline. JMO

[Exodus]

Originally Posted by mobile

It would be nice to have pedestrian bridges like that to get across Water and Government St. Except we could make ours that Aqua green color that Downtown Mobile likes to use. (The Convention Centers roof and the spire of the RSA tower)

There is one over Water Street, it connects to the convention center.

[10101000]

[QUOTE=| BRAVO |;3696286]

Originally Posted by OCA REP

I agree. I think (Tim) has a higher class of signage in mind than what you see in suburbia or the interstates. It can add a lot to an urban landscape.


Anybody happen to snap a pic of Joe Cain's? Anybody?

Yes, that is what I am talking about. OCA also said that it would look more cosmopolitan. I will find some pictures and post.

[10101000]

[MobileLSUboy2005]

i think some cool Lamar digital billboards on the first alabama bank, i mean, amsouth bank,..achem...regions building parking garage near bienville sq. would be pretty cool ... i dont mind a few downtown advertisements, as long as they dont stick one on the roof of the Battle House Hotel...

about the Rave movie theater: yea they have one in Baton Rouge, and its pretty freakin awesome. i remember thinking Carmike's Wynnsong theater was the best, then Hollywood, but man...Rave blows them all out of the water with amazing digital projectors and screens 3x the size of Carmike's...we have a Cinemark theater here in BR too, but its just okay...

[10101000]

Originally Posted by MobileLSUboy2005

i think some cool Lamar digital billboards on the first alabama bank, i mean, amsouth bank,..achem...regions building parking garage near bienville sq. would be pretty cool ... i dont mind a few downtown advertisements, as long as they dont stick one on the roof of the Battle House Hotel...

about the Rave movie theater: yea they have one in Baton Rouge, and its pretty freakin awesome. i remember thinking Carmike's Wynnsong theater was the best, then Hollywood, but man...Rave blows them all out of the water with amazing digital projectors and screens 3x the size of Carmike's...we have a Cinemark theater here in BR too, but its just okay...

Daphne has a rave! All you have to do is get on I-10 and cross the bridge. Maybe they will build one Downtown. If you remember Baton Rouge did not have one in its mid-town area until fall of 2006. The other Rave on Oneal is pretty much like the borough of Rouge.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

Originally Posted by (Tim)

Daphne has a rave! All you have to do is get on I-10 and cross the bridge. Maybe they will build one Downtown. If you remember Baton Rouge did not have one in its mid-town area until fall of 2006. The other Rave on Oneal is pretty much like the borough of Rouge.

I knew there is one in Daphne, but i live in West Mobile, so the gas these days just inst worth it... I think I've only been to the Oneal Rave once, i just go to the Mall of LA one since its closer to my apartment.