Mobile Development Thread - Page 130

Port_of_Bama · #**2581** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by pboo74

I wonder if it will be a open air,or a closed in mall?

I don`t know I hope it`s an open air mall we have the climate for it especialy winter months. The idea you presented are good I believe the first meeting is this Friday and I will bring you ideas as well as others up. A tema from Baltimore suppose to be putting this thing together.

Port_of_Bama · #**2582** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 11:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by SouthSky

Nice pics, nimsjus... the Hampton is coming along quite well.

I think you could make Fort Conde into a fashionable bar/shop district with some upscale restaurants. If Mobile supports it, then cruisers will enjoy the company in the village.

Wow ! what a good idea man, to me that area has sooooo much potential and is realy my favorite part of Mobile period. I guess because it is what we have left of what Mobile use to look like over 300 yeras ago, and that neighborehood has one of the best skyline views of Mobile.

Port_of_Bama · #**2583** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 11:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by pkp

Why would you want it to? Phoenix is a shit hole, urban waste land with some god spas and golf courses that are draining the CO river dry. If you want to be big, think NYC, Chicago, European cities, etc... not one of the most sprawling cities in the world. Growth for the sake of growth is pointless. "Good" growth is a different story.

Yeah being a big sprawl like Phoenix.ATL and others is not a good look. I would rather see the City limits build up first.

pboo74 · #**2584** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 11:45 PM**

Thanks Port of Bama,isn't their a meeting 2morrow also?Please make sure our voices r heard and let us know how the meeting goes please.

Hey I hope it's an open air mall as well.Maybe something like that can fit into downtown some how.

Del · #**2585** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 11:51 PM**

Didn't the Rousseau's guy used to complain that the city had talked him into staying/ locating at Fort Conde and then the promised other venues, which were supposed to help drive traffic to his establishment, never materialized?

I think the encircling ramps of I-10 have got to have something to do with the lack of development down there.

MobiMan · #**2586** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 1:53 AM**

I remember Rousso's being packed out a few times when I drove by there.
What i believe he should have done was tear down the old Rousso's and build
up maybe 2 stories with a big terrace and big windows where people could have seen the skyline. I have eaten there a few times the food and service was great, and there was a good crowd, I've always wondered what happened

Maybe they will develope that area

sandebr00 · #**2587** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 2:39 AM**

For those who are interested, the Mobile City Council is meeting soon to decide the fate of the zoning ordinance for the Village of Springhill. I have received conflicting information as to the date of the meeting, but according to Linda St. John, of the Village of Springhill, the meeting is set for August 7th at 7:00 pm at Government Plaza. I will update this thread immediately if I hear differently.

To let you know, Linda has stressed to me that passage of the ordinance is far from guaranteed. Some people are still opposed to it, even though it is entirely optional at this point. Linda also mentioned that the Village needs "overwhelming" support from the public to ensure passage.

Throughout this thread, we've all discussed actively trying to better Mobile. Here's an opportunity for us all to do just that. I encourage everyone to visit the Village's website at www.thevillageofspringhill.

Also, please try to attend this meeting to show your support. I'll be there, as Linda has asked me talk in favor of the ordinance and to discuss how a similar zoning ordinance benefited Atlanta (where I used to live). Passage of this ordinance could be a huge benefit to all of Mobile, and maybe over time other areas in Mobile will be encouraged to pass similar zoning ordinances.

Thanks again for considering attending this meeting!!

| BRAVO | · #**2588** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 12:47 PM**

I was hoping somebody in the area of the new Joe Cain's Restaurant may snap a couple of pics of the "flaming torches" installed on their canopy. The company I work for produced them and I only got to see them headed out the door... they looked a little disproportional. I'd like to see how they look on site.

Thanks and no rush.

10101000 · #**2589** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 3:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

I don`t know I hope it`s an open air mall we have the climate for it especialy winter months. The idea you presented are good I believe the first meeting is this Friday and I will bring you ideas as well as others up. A tema from Baltimore suppose to be putting this thing together.

I would like to see a mixture of both. Open-air and enclosed, but not like most would think. My idea is different from what I have seen so far, but of course someone else might have thought of it.

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Del · #**2591** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 4:19 PM**

Wow. Nine in Baton Rouge.

10101000 · #**2592** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 4:19 PM**

John Word is Back:
World Class Jazz Returns to Mobile Causeway
In the early 1980’s John Word’s was the downtown restaurant in the Kaliefh House at 352 Dauphin St., and his love of New York City jazz brought the Roy Merriwether Trio from NYC and from Hollywood the legendary Peanuts Hucko Band. This poster WHERE DINING TURNED TO DANCING marked the high time of jazz in Mobile. (the poster won Best of Show in the annual advertising contest). After almost 20 years he is back as JOHN WORDS RESTAURANT and JAZZ CLUB opens in the new Captain’s Table next to the Battleship on the Causeway. John Word will warm up the new club with Mobile’s own legend Joe Lewis Trio and then August 17 Roy Merriwether lands by jet in Mobile with famed drummer Paul Samuels. Word has bought a new paino bar to remind us of those heady days downstairs as Roy Merriwether magically made the jazz Steinway sing like a percussion orchestra. The Causeway is home of many fine restaurants and music, but the king of the causeway John Word is taking the neon street to a new level.

10101000 · #**2593** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Del

Wow. Nine in Baton Rouge.

Yeah, only because of CC's coffee house.

MobileLSUboy2005 · #**2594** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by pkp

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St. George, UT and Sugar Land, TX. Really shooting for the stars, huh?

And on Phoenix, my point is that just because a city triples in size in ten years does not make it better. I feel like a broken record, but this IS and urban living forum. If I liked sprawling cities, I would have joined stripmall.com, or parkinglot.com, or 25laneinterstate.com. People are certainly entitled to like what ever kind of city they want - it takes all kinds. But, as someone who actually lives in the city, I have my opinions on the direction I would like to see it take. And on Baldwin County, I've got a place there at the beach too. There are good things about it. The beaches are nice, and there is still some nice rural land there. However, if its sprawl (like the majority of the ES and even moving as far East as Loxley), I'm not going to like it no matter where it is. You kids just don't get it. I really don't understand why you are on this forum if all you are concerned with is having 10MM residents even if it means turning into just another sprawling sunbelt city. In addition, I would love to see us have 10 pro sports teams and 5 aquariums and a dozen zoos and 20 more shopping malls with a Gap. But guess what - lets spend some that capital on better schools (especially the community college system), public safety, transportation, real economic development, etc... These things are great, but other than the construction jobs, you are talking about a bunch of minimum wage jobs that are not going to increase the living standards here. There is certainly nothing wrong with working at a concession stand at a stadium or being a cashier at a store, but wouldn't you rather have some jobs paying $50,000 a year with full benefits than jobs paying $12,000 with nothing else? Good jobs are what make places grow. I think we can work to provide these while growing our city (and region) in a smart, sustainable manner.

thank you for your humor, and ideas....i agree, you can't expect mobile, a city with less than 3/4 of a million people in the entire CSA to have everything a MAJOR US city has. I often compare it with Baton Rouge, because they are similar in size, have similar layouts (altho mobile's is much better), and have similar economies, (minus a major university in mobile of course - no, south does NOT count). I want to try and make Mobile the best medium-sized city it can be, by smart growth and forward thinking. But as always, my biggest complaint is that the city cannot attract good retailers, other than what every other mediocre town like Tallahassee and Pensacola have... We can do better, and eventually we'll get it right.
To increase standard of living, get better schools and stuff!

10101000 · #**2595** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 4:35 PM**

As said before the retailers will come in time. I believe in the next 5 years are so.

NitekKetin · #**2596** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 5:08 PM**

Retailers are going to be much more cautious as to which markets they will enter in the next five years. Eastern Shore Centre, in particular, will continue to attract mundane local fare like Jack's Music and Busy Babes.

10101000 · #**2597** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 5:17 PM**

Yeah that is why Pottery Barn and Williams Sonoma is still there I mean go figure. At this point, if they pay the rent I think they will stay. Of course they could just tear it down and just have Bel-Air, you know that place is rocking with high-end retailers!

Oh, I forgot you can go to Cordova mall and hang out with the local retailers there too, because they do not have a lot to show for. Or I could just keep on going. You could have nothing at all. Good thing you were born in America even. BE GREATFUL!

10101000 · #**2598** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

Retailers are going to be much more cautious as to which markets they will enter in the next five years. Eastern Shore Centre, in particular, will continue to attract mundane local fare like Jack's Music and Busy Babes.

Why do you even live in Mobile if you do not like it?

NitekKetin · #**2599** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 5:28 PM**

Well, Bel Air Mall has proven to be much more healthier than ESC or Legacy Village. I mean, when inline tenant space is usually quickly leased by a quality national retailer. For instance, 22,000 square feet is be redeveloped as the first Forever21 store outside B'ham. The former Bombay space is transforming into Journeys Kids.

10101000 · #**2600** Posted **Jul 22, 2008, 5:37 PM**

I saw that, but ESC is a burb deal. They did not want to be in the city.