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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 3:39 PM
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You'd rather live in BR? Sheesh...
yea....i'd definitely rather live in BR than Mobile right now...so much more to do/eat/shop, plus that La culture is really startin to grow on me, although i'd still rather eat Alabama Gulf Shrimp than crawfish any day... haha
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Yea PJ's sucks....CCs is WAY better, and too bad the barnies in the mall was made into a FREAKIN STARBUCKS! (they'll probably close that too and leave another empty store...)
I talked to the guy that works there at the mall and they are keeping that one open and the one in the parcel as well.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 4:04 PM
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Both Baton Rouge and Mobile have become one to me. I spend so much time in both cities that is like I live in one big city. I love Mobile so much more though, it is my home. We do have a lot to do in Mobile just not what most of us want. We are all so use to the everyday life in Mob Town.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 6:12 PM
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Both Baton Rouge and Mobile have become one to me. I spend so much time in both cities that is like I live in one big city. I love Mobile so much more though, it is my home. We do have a lot to do in Mobile just not what most of us want. We are all so use to the everyday life in Mob Town.
Mobile's great if you're from a town like....Greenville, AL or something and are gonna be living there for a few years...but now that ive moved to a bigger city, its hard to go back i guess haha
I still like it a lot, i just dont see myself being happy living there for now
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 6:32 PM
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I lived in Baton Rouge for a while and even if there is something to do odds are you won't do it because of the traffic. I guess I live a different lifestyle because I can't see how it is any different -- for example if I wanted to do something this afternoon I can't think of one thing that I could do in Baton Rouge and not Mobile. I guess the same can be said for most cities that size.

But obviously every person is different so I understand.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 6:32 PM
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LSU KID How long have you lived here in B. R.? Mobile is a great town no matter what. Some cities are not for everybody.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 6:35 PM
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I lived in Baton Rouge for a while and even if there is something to do odds are you won't do it because of the traffic. I guess I live a different lifestyle because I can't see how it is any different -- for example if I wanted to do something this afternoon I can't think of one thing that I could do in Baton Rouge and not Mobile. I guess the same can be said for most cities that size.

But obviously every person is different so I understand.
I agree, I Mobile and Baton Rouge are so much alike. The only differences is LSU oh and the River.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 7:10 PM
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I agree, I Mobile and Baton Rouge are so much alike. The only differences is LSU oh and the River.
They are a lot alike. Even though BR is larger, I do think Mobile is a bit more urban, however. I am not sure you could live in Baton Rouge without a car, but I think it might be doable in Mobile (not really easy, but doable).
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I would agree with you in some extent as well.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2008, 7:15 PM
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all of mobile is urban sprawl! at least baton rouge had taken SOME attempts to make a TND or something similar like the Walden development off Kenilworth, or perkins rowe or Rouzan, bla bla bla... there's nothing like that in mobile. What smart growth are you referring to that is in mobile? (and sometimes i feel mobile IS a forsaken city...which is why i probably not move back there unless a lot changes) It is home for me, but I'm glad its not my current home.
I would argue that Mobile core and the surrounding residential areas are much more vibrant than BR. Baton Rouge's "smart growth" is basically plopping down a lifestyle center in the suburbs. There are strides being made downtown in BR, but for the most part, these developments are drive to/drive from destinations. I would not really care to see this in Mobile (although there are several starting to be built on both sides of the bay) - I would rather see our existing core redeveloped, which I think is happening. Not sure where you lived in Mobile, but where I am is about the furthest thing there is from sprawl.
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Not sure where you lived in Mobile, but where I am is about the furthest thing there is from sprawl.
You wouldnt happen to live at The Tower on Ryan Park would you
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I think what mobile needs is a more vivd cultural identity. As far as the arts, entertainment, and general public. I mean, when you go to New Orleans, you KNOW you are in NOLA! There's just this atmosphere, and attitude among the locals. That's why I believe Airbus is such a positive thing for this city. We NEED some foreign players in our economy. We need some diversity.
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Please excuse me in advance, this post may be all over the place before I finish. I've been doing a lot of traveling in the southeast this summer and the one thing that jumps out in traveling to other cities similar in size to Mobile, is that our infrusture is way below par to those cities. Jackson, MS., Knoxville, TN., Little Rock, AR., and soon Baton Rouge, LA., all have interstate loops around there cities. The loop helps drive through traffic move faster and it opens the spur through town to be less crowded for local traffic. I've talked to tons of travelers and they all say the same thing, Interstate 10 (Wallace Tunnels) is one of the worst if not the worst bottle necks on there trip to Flordia. (That's a major problem in itself, passing through and not stopping) Nearly everyone who lives in Dallas, Memphis, St. Louis, Houston, Kansas City, Shreveport, etc.....have driven through Mobile on the way to Orlando. We in Mobile need to realize the interstate system was built for the purpose of moving people long distance's and as quickly as possible. We have to less selfish and realize a downtown I-10 bridge must be built. No more excuses. Many cities have high bridges in there downtown and it can be made to work, even enhance the area.

Now on Mobile's population decline, who cares. Most large MSA's have a very small city population. Atlanta, GA......city of Atlanta around 450,000, Atlanta MSA....... 8th largest in the Untied States. It's the region that matters. What hurts Mobile is the fact we are sandwich between two other fairly large MSA area's Pensacola and Gulfport/Biloxi. I often wonder how large Mobile would be if those two area's didn't exist.

Now for Downtown, we've got to get another larger cruise ship and then make is easy for those people to explore downtown. Also once there in downtown, there has to be things for them to do that is only unique to Mobile. For example, the Riverwalk in New Orleans. Seems like most of the stores have a Nawlin's flavor. Mobile needs to capture it's own style, and make Mobile the destination and not just the stop over on the way to Disney World or cruise to Mexico.


Knoxville doesn't have an interstate loop around it. I lived in Pigeon Forge for a while. There's a spur that heads to their airport and their interstate goes straight through their downtown. 40 branches off and heads to Nashville... Their traffic is horrible sometimes and sprawl is ridiculous out west. Their downtown is trashed, the architecture is sad (Victorian... eww), and while they made some great efforts at renovating some parts of town there ain't much going on there. They have a concert series (or used to) one night a week in the Summer that was pretty cool. They do have a ton of natural stuff to do in their general area by virtue of their location, but we do as well.

There are plenty of reasons for us not to want an I-10 bridge downtown. If traffic bottlenecks then oh well. I see no reason for us to mortgage our economic future so that folk can shave a little time off their trip through.

I believe there is a Western bypass on the books, though in reality I-65 is already bypassing both downtown and midtown.

I like that Biloxi and Pensacola are nearby. Between the three cities there's a lot of history and opportunities for entertainment. We aren't the only city to grow, just the biggest of the three. When things go well for them we all do well.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 3:39 AM
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You wouldnt happen to live at The Tower on Ryan Park would you
I actually live in Oakleigh. If I lived in an apartment, that is probably where I would live, though.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 4:21 AM
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Baton Rouge doesnt have a loop either...they do have the worst road system on earth, though.

Mobile does have a loop, just not around west Mobile.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 1:47 PM
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I live on grelot between cody and hillcrest (for the entire 21 years of my life)....where everything you must access by a car pretty much...i mean i guess as a kid i used to ride my bike to a few different places around my neighborhood, and it was nice. but really, to do most stuff you'd have to drive. In baton rouge, I live near the university, so if i didnt have a car, the free bus system could get me to a FEW places i may need to go. I just think BR has more upscale shopping and restaurants and such like at perkins rowe...wooo...and now the mall of louisiana has really started attracting much higher end stores (and larger square footages of the same stores we have in mobile) but i mean...you can't blame mobile for not having it, because as we've discussed on here over and over, Mobile gets hurt by being sandwiched between Biloxi/Gulfport, and Pensacola and such, and we just flat out have a bit smaller of a population...
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No, Mobile is not hurting because of Biloxi and Pensacola. Baton Rouge is very close to New Orleans and it is not hurting. You cannot label Mobile like that at all. I lived in Pensacola and the people that I knew there came to Mobile. Mobile has so much more than Pensacola, things that Pensacola want's bad. LSU boy you must be oblivious to the development in Mobile and what we have. If you want to break it down, the Mall of Louisiana was to be built in Mobile back in 1995 when Mobile and it's bourgeois rejected the whole deal. The development firm Jim Wilson & Associates from Montgomery, decided to move in to Baton Rouge. The Mall of Louisiana looks so much like River chase. Too bad that old Mobile did not want it. Things are so much more different now and I see a much better attitude than before. Mobile does have a lot of the same stores they are just scattered all over the metro.
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