The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread - Page 127

mylesmalley · #**2521** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 2:32 PM**

Anybody free tonight?
I'm bored out of my mind...

ErickMontreal · #**2522** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 3:00 PM**

Some new pics of the Casino... If I was Verdiroc/Ashford I would be mad this project passed through.

gehrhardt · #**2523** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 3:09 PM**

Hey, isn't that the stretch along Mountain rd where the Motel 6 was supposed to go?

mylesmalley · #**2524** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 3:48 PM**

It actually is a pretty big building, just not very tall...

Wishblade · #**2525** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by HalifaxMtl666

Some new pics of the Casino... If I was Verdiroc/Ashford I would be mad this project passed through.

Good lord, look at the parking lots

MonctonGoldenFlames · #**2526** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 9:17 PM**

The more I see of this CasinoNB, the more I'm disappointed. Whoever decided to let this get built in Magnetic Hill and not downtown should be ashamed of themselves. It should have been downtown to help revitalize downtown, by getting tourists and locals into the CBD, not off Mountain Road, where you will certainly need a car to get to it. Just when you think Moncton has some momentum, this crap proposal gets approved.....arghhhh!

mylesmalley · #**2527** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wishblade

Good lord, look at the parking lots

Goooood... Operation Pave-the-County is well under way...

MonctonRad · #**2528** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 10:23 PM**

I'm personally not upset that the casino is being built at Magnetic Hill rather than downtown.

I think that the fact that the casino is not going downtown is going to cause the stars to align behind the concept of a downtown arena instead (a la Harbour Station or the Metro Centre).

I think a good sized arena (12,000 seat) would do far more for downtown restaurants and pubs than a casino ever would. The Wildcats have 35 home games a season. Combine that with a dozen concert dates per year and assorted special events (as well as shows at the Capitol Theatre and convention business at the Hotel Beausejour) and you begin to get a lot of traffic generated for the downtown core. I really think that a new arena is inevitable and I believe it will be built behind Assumption Place.

Regarding the design of the proposed casino, the style is beginning to grow on me. It certainly is sprawling with literally acres of parking but it looks like it will be a high class facility.

My only real concern is that it will be cheek by jowl next to Glad Tidings Church. I wonder how long it will take to get the placard waving pentecostals out there blocking the work site?

mylesmalley · #**2529** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 11:13 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm personally not upset that the casino is being built at Magnetic Hill rather than downtown.

I think that the fact that the casino is not going downtown is going to cause the stars to align behind the concept of a downtown arena instead (a la Harbour Station or the Metro Centre).

I think a good sized arena (12,000 seat) would do far more for downtown restaurants and pubs than a casino ever would. The Wildcats have 35 home games a season. Combine that with a dozen concert dates per year and assorted special events (as well as shows at the Capitol Theatre and convention business at the Hotel Beausejour) and you begin to get a lot of traffic generated for the downtown core. I really think that a new arena is inevitable and I believe it will be built behind Assumption Place.

Regarding the design of the proposed casino, the style is beginning to grow on me. It certainly is sprawling with literally acres of parking but it looks like it will be a high class facility.

My only real concern is that it will be cheek by jowl next to Glad Tidings Church. I wonder how long it will take to get the placard waving pentecostals out there blocking the work site?

No doubt, they'll be hot and bothered for a while. In fact, I think their minister has been in the paper a few times lately about their opposition to a casino in general. Like all good Canadians though, they'll complain about it for a month or two, then it'll quietly fall below the radar when the next big outrage comes along.

EDIT:: Does anyone else think the CasinoNB logo looks a bit... phallic? Must be the 13 year old in me.

MonctonRad · #**2530** Posted **Jul 15, 2008, 11:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

: Does anyone else think the CasinoNB logo looks a bit... phallic? Must be the 13 year old in me.

I think it's supposed to be a lighthouse

JasonL-Moncton · #**2531** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 12:38 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm personally not upset that the casino is being built at Magnetic Hill rather than downtown.

I think that the fact that the casino is not going downtown is going to cause the stars to align behind the concept of a downtown arena instead (a la Harbour Station or the Metro Centre).

I think a good sized arena (12,000 seat) would do far more for downtown restaurants and pubs than a casino ever would. The Wildcats have 35 home games a season. Combine that with a dozen concert dates per year and assorted special events (as well as shows at the Capitol Theatre and convention business at the Hotel Beausejour) and you begin to get a lot of traffic generated for the downtown core. I really think that a new arena is inevitable and I believe it will be built behind Assumption Place.

+1...100% agree. Perhaps, that's why this one was approved...someone 'in the know' knows something we don't? (not likely)

MonctonGoldenFlames · #**2532** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 2:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm personally not upset that the casino is being built at Magnetic Hill rather than downtown.

I think that the fact that the casino is not going downtown is going to cause the stars to align behind the concept of a downtown arena instead (a la Harbour Station or the Metro Centre).

I think a good sized arena (12,000 seat) would do far more for downtown restaurants and pubs than a casino ever would. The Wildcats have 35 home games a season. Combine that with a dozen concert dates per year and assorted special events (as well as shows at the Capitol Theatre and convention business at the Hotel Beausejour) and you begin to get a lot of traffic generated for the downtown core. I really think that a new arena is inevitable and I believe it will be built behind Assumption Place.

Regarding the design of the proposed casino, the style is beginning to grow on me. It certainly is sprawling with literally acres of parking but it looks like it will be a high class facility.

My only real concern is that it will be cheek by jowl next to Glad Tidings Church. I wonder how long it will take to get the placard waving pentecostals out there blocking the work site?

I don't necesarrily disagree with you, but with a casino and metro centre downtown, that critical mass downtown would be achieved much more often. I believe they could feed off each other, but where they are now, they will both contribute to different parts of the City.

sdm · #**2533** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 3:17 PM**

faux lighthouses>? oh dear, can't say its a pleasing design...........

JasonL-Moncton · #**2534** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 4:58 PM**

There is a better photo of the 'location' on page 3 of today's paper, can someone post it...?

mylesmalley · #**2535** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 6:37 PM**

From the Transcript...

This aerial shot shows the location of the new Casino New Brunswick. The 44-acre parcel of land is located off Highway 2 (the Trans-Canada Highway) behind the Amsterdam Inn. Mountain Road runs to the right of the photo and Sunshine Drive along the southern edge of the property (bottom of photo).

mylesmalley · #**2536** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 6:39 PM**

That area's going to see some tremendous growth in the next two years. With the announcement of the new school last week, plus the casino, plus all the residential development already on the table...

michael_d40 · #**2537** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by sdm

faux lighthouses>? oh dear, can't say its a pleasing design...........

Yeah, its a pretty hurtin casino, Im so glad they didnt put that mess on our waterfront. I think il stick with Casino Nova Scotia, Because Casino NB is just sad.
Congrats Moncton!!
ha.

kwajo · #**2538** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by michael_d40

Yeah, its a pretty hurtin casino, Im so glad they didnt put that mess on our waterfront. I think il stick with Casino Nova Scotia, Because Casino NB is just sad.
Congrats Moncton!!
ha.

I don't like the design either (as it's a poor representation of what NB is like culturally/architecturally), but please, let's not start a Saint John vs. Moncton thing again. (even though I agree, I'm glad it's not in Saint John if it is going to look like that)

Also, someone needs to tell the architects that very few NB lighthouses are round, and that their design looks more like it belongs in New England than the Maritimes. The hotel section also looks like someone made a mash-up of the Murray Premises and the Algonquin. I kind of dig the phallic logo though lol

mylesmalley · #**2539** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 7:29 PM**

While I'm not crazy about the design, the important thing is the facility is expected to create 400 permanent jobs, and hundreds more as spin offs. Alone, it will provide 1.5 million in tax revenue for the city, and is going to add quite a bit more incentive to visit an already very popular tourist area.

sdm · #**2540** Posted **Jul 16, 2008, 7:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

From the Transcript...

This aerial shot shows the location of the new Casino New Brunswick. The 44-acre parcel of land is located off Highway 2 (the Trans-Canada Highway) behind the Amsterdam Inn. Mountain Road runs to the right of the photo and Sunshine Drive along the southern edge of the property (bottom of photo).

What a terrible location in my opinion.

Should have been downtown and promote substainable development, instead of being way out there.