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Old Posted Jun 10, 2008, 9:20 PM
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The scale on this one is off. The little rowhouse bit should be 6 stories tall, like standard roofline in European cities, not 3. Of course it would look absurd still given how narrow that part of the building is, but at least it would look right from the west or southwest.
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I think the facade looks plain because it hasn't weathered yet. Finish the building, puff some powdered graphite into the cracks, and let the rain create dark streaks running dow the sides. It'll look like it's been there 100 years.

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The scale on this one is off. The little rowhouse bit should be 6 stories tall, like standard roofline in European cities, not 3. Of course it would look absurd still given how narrow that part of the building is, but at least it would look right from the west or southwest.
most apartment buildings here in europe are more like 4-5 stories...
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2008, 8:07 PM
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most apartment buildings here in europe are more like 4-5 stories...
Central parts of major cities like Paris, Vienna, etc typically 6, though... I'm not talking about the rowhouses along the Amsterdam grachten.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2008, 11:01 AM
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Smile new update for the Elysian online!

Hiya fans and friends,

after 300NL here comes a new update for the nice looking Elysian. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRweyaZIRVU

Music: Randy Katana - One Solid Wave
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Sorry, those townhouses are gawd awful. The tower *may* fit in contextually with other stuff of the neighborhood, but the low rise looks like Vegas shit. Perdon my French.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2008, 3:27 AM
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I think the whole tower looks absolutely awful !One of the worst projects u/c in chicago by far!
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I think the whole tower looks absolutely awful !One of the worst projects u/c in chicago by far!
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2008, 4:24 AM
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It's not so bad.
I had lower expectations.
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Well, I think its perfectly contextual with all the other trash surrounding it.
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^^^ Not to start this again, but you clearly have NO knowlege of the neighborhood or you wouldn't be saying that. Its in the gold coast which has some the most lavish older buildings and some of the edgiest and most modern new buildings. I guess you think that 30 W. Oak, Astor Tower, and Sofitel are garbage. I dunno, I think those are three of the best buildings in the city. If you are thinking that the stuff in the background is junk, then you must think JHC, Olympia Center, and 860-880 LSD are trash as well... So unless you agree with one of those two statements stop saying that because you are simply wrong...
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Sorry, those townhouses are gawd awful. The tower *may* fit in contextually with other stuff of the neighborhood, but the low rise looks like Vegas shit. Perdon my French.
First of all those aren't townhouses. Second, I think everyone is jumping the gun. I think it has a pleasant shape, and the facade is passable. The height is nice too.
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I wouldn't judge that early. This tower can still turn out great. Let's wait for all the classy details to be mounted, as we can see them in the plans/renderings.




The lower side buildings don't look that out of place in that concept, they could have been some floors higher thou.
I'm pretty confident regarding the Elysian as a whole. It just suits Chicago and compliments its skyscraper tradition.

By the by, of what material is the roof goin to be made? Copper, slate, bronze, tiles, or something else? Anyone?
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^^^ The cheapest grey-black material they can find, probably grey-black precast...

I would forgive everything else that this building falls short on if they wowed us and made the roof out of slate or copper...
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LaGrange usually does metal roofs, like Goethe (zinc) or Park Tower (copper).
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I think this tower is one of the nicer ones, Ill wait till I see the final producto though
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I'd like some of the naysayers to back up their claims as to why this tower is "trash". Make some specific points. You don't like the detail execution? Anti-modern, historicist style? Something else? I think this tower works great, and, though of course it's no landmark, is quite tastefully executed. Even the precast concrete panels look rather convincing, and the "townhouses" in front are nicely scaled with relation to neighboring buildings and maintain the street wall.
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^ The height-to-width ratio is elegant, and the crown is better anticipated than in some of Lagrange's other recent towers. But I'm always wary of evaluating the fit & finish on a project before it has been fitted & finished.

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Old Posted Jun 22, 2008, 10:02 PM
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I'd like some of the naysayers to back up their claims as to why this tower is "trash".
It's all back there... just glance back in the thread. Let's save everyone the agony of remembering all the facts, and also the endless debate that follows.

It is what it is.
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