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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 12:49 PM
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Brunswick Square - 31 Stories?

Hi there... I'm originally from Quispamsis. I'm a long-time daily, but silent visitor to this forum but finally decided to become a member.

I spoke to someone at Fortis Properties and they had mentioned that Brunswick Square was designed as a 2-phase construction meaning that it was originally designed to be 31 floors in total. I got some old drawings, so I thought I'd share them with you. You never know, maybe this could happen someday, but honestly, I think the skyline looks better without a huge tower like this because it looks too out of place. Maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the future if there there were a few other 20-story buildings around it (North of Union, perhaps??).




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Yeah i've heard about that before, cool renderings though! Welcome to the board, don't say anything bad about Moncton........
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 2:36 PM
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I've also heard that the Irving building can have floors added to it.. If it wasn't half empty they would probably consider it..
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 3:38 PM
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I've heard that the Delta part of Brunswick square can also have extra floors added.
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I heard that the Loyalist House was designed to have floors added to the top as well.
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I heard that the Loyalist House was designed to have floors added to the top as well.
What a future looking city we live in. We've got enough fortitude to but in a stronger foundation, but not quite enough to build on spec.
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I'm not sure anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but Sobeys is planning for a new location at the corner of McAllister and Westmorland. I've included a photo of the lot rather than try and describe it in detail.

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I'm not sure anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but Sobeys is planning for a new location at the corner of McAllister and Westmorland. I've included a photo of the lot rather than try and describe it in detail.
That site is zoned I-1 now, which I believe allows for retail. I wonder what the Marsh Creek (or is that Major's Brook) crossing will entail. There doesn't seem to be any development controls marked on the city mapping relating to the stream.
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The Brunswick Square addition looks a lot like the BCBS addition happening in Chicago.
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I've heard that the Delta part of Brunswick square can also have extra floors added.

The design calls for the possible addition of a single additional floor....Fortis is fairly aggressive in terms of expansion in recent years - the timing couldn't be better....
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Hi there... I'm originally from Quispamsis. I'm a long-time daily, but silent visitor to this forum but finally decided to become a member.

I spoke to someone at Fortis Properties and they had mentioned that Brunswick Square was designed as a 2-phase construction meaning that it was originally designed to be 31 floors in total. I got some old drawings, so I thought I'd share them with you. You never know, maybe this could happen someday, but honestly, I think the skyline looks better without a huge tower like this because it looks too out of place. Maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the future if there there were a few other 20-story buildings around it (North of Union, perhaps??).





neat pics. . . . freaky looking, but interesting
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I've also heard that the Irving building can have floors added to it.. If it wasn't half empty they would probably consider it..
I arranged a tour of the facilities as part of my course, and I can assure you it's quite full actually...
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neat pics. . . . freaky looking, but interesting
I kind of like it, but the building is near 30 years old now, so it'd prolly be just as well to build new then to add floors now.

Here is another...

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You know what I was thinking would be really nice, is if Irving Oil built their new headquarters on Long Wharf, a nice mid-rise building of maybe 12-floors or so, and incorporated the YMCA/YWCA into the development. Then maybe find a way to attach this new development to the pedway system via a beautiful glass-enclosed bridge from the Hilton to Long Wharf.

Maybe Irving will reach a deal for Long Wharf soon and get moving on this. The port doesn't want to sell, so maybe a 99-year lease? Maybe an announcement this week or next?

Yeah, that'd be nice...
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 10:07 PM
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Also, since we're on the topic of Brunswick Square's construction, why not throw in a photo of modern Uptown without it?



Credit: NBMuseum (http://website.nbm-mnb.ca/Transition/English/index.asp)

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You know what I was thinking would be really nice, is if Irving Oil built their new headquarters on Long Wharf, a nice mid-rise building of maybe 12-floors or so, and incorporated the YMCA/YWCA into the development. Then maybe find a way to attach this new development to the pedway system via a beautiful glass-enclosed bridge from the Hilton to Long Wharf.

Maybe Irving will reach a deal for Long Wharf soon and get moving on this. The port doesn't want to sell, so maybe a 99-year lease? Maybe an announcement this week or next?

Yeah, that'd be nice...
Do you think they are actually looking at this site? I'd prefer them to go north of union, or somewhere more prominent...but that is a nice area for staff to go on breaks and such.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2008, 12:27 AM
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Well Long Wharf is actually very close to everything Uptown (it's a couple minutes from Market Square), and you can't get much more of a prominent position than on a wharf sticking out into the harbour. Then again, a 12-story building won't look very tall there, compared to the hill that Brunswick Square is on, or even City Hall. It'll just end up looking the same level as the Hilton.

As for whether I think they're actually considering the location, let's wait a few days and see...
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You know what I was thinking would be really nice, is if Irving Oil built their new headquarters on Long Wharf, a nice mid-rise building of maybe 12-floors or so, and incorporated the YMCA/YWCA into the development. Then maybe find a way to attach this new development to the pedway system via a beautiful glass-enclosed bridge from the Hilton to Long Wharf.

Maybe Irving will reach a deal for Long Wharf soon and get moving on this. The port doesn't want to sell, so maybe a 99-year lease? Maybe an announcement this week or next?

Yeah, that'd be nice...
The port's ability to sell the land is limited by the fact that it is federal land and needs to be declared surplus. The process is what is happening with the Coast Guard site and is taking so long. A long lease would be reasonable - if you think that the Golden Ball has outlived its usefulness to the company in under 100 years, their new facility should meet their needs for that sort of life time.
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Kwajo, I prefer that street scape to be honest.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2008, 10:37 AM
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Kwajo, I prefer that street scape to be honest.
I admit, having the full King Street streetscape (including MRA's) would be awfully nice, but having the tower adds a lot to the city's skyline.
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