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Old Posted May 22, 2008, 4:44 AM
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so should i get my hopes up and believe the concrete will be left exposed???

i don't know anything about this koo and associates firm... honte, victor ??
What street is this being built on? I love this. I think it is a great little building and will add a modern edge to the loop area! How many floors is it? And when is it suppose to be done?
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2008, 5:26 AM
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It is on State Street, just south of the Main Branch of the Chicago River and just north of the Chicago Theater. For more details just visit the first page of this thread and click the hyperlink for the project on the rundown list.
     
     
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Old Posted May 22, 2008, 11:30 AM
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^^^ Where is that building, I've never seen it before. I bet Adrian likes it.

I actually work in the RE business as the assistant of a Real Estate lawyer doing Foreclosure and Bankruptcy law, Representing a few RE trusts and a commercial real estate lender, as well as doing RE closings. The picture still isn't pretty, it is probably very close to the bottom now, but I would expect things to get a touch worse after the spring/early summer selling season pans out and there is a massive glut of unsold homes on the market. However, things will recover over the course of 2009. So really, now is literally the best time to buy, prices are rock bottom, interest rates are rock bottom, there is a massive supply of foreclosures you might be able to get your paws on, and we are nearing the bottom of one of the worse RE crashes in recent memory. The time to buy is when the blood runs in the streets my friends. Just make sure you can afford what you are buying!

If you are looking for a deal and in the market for a condo, wait for fall, there are many RE investors buying up huge blocks of foreclosed properties. There are literally companies forming over night to take advantage of this mess and they are buying all the foreclosures up right now for nothing in huge lots. They will probably start dividing up these lots and selling the individual units for dirt cheep in the fall, after the summer selling season is up. I just filled out the paperwork for two closings of this type today alone.

Many of these condo blocks are in buildings like the Columbian where they will get like 8 foreclosures at once and split them up later.
Don't want too off-topic...

I just don't see how we can be near rock bottom. I read cribchatter.com daily, follow prices for various properties in a few different neighborhoods and have seen various statistics about prices in the area (the most recent being a country-wide map of the change in average home value). The one thing I haven't seen in is widespread falling prices in Chicago. Flippers who bought a year ago in new construction buildings are still trying to turn a profit on their investment. Properties that have been on the market for 6 months to 2 years have barely (if at all) dropped their price. To this observer, it seems as though prices still don't reflect the severity of the buying drought and market glut.

I read an economist piece not too long ago where they opined that the troubles with the housing market were only half over. I think we need to look past the sub-prime crash and current credit shortage and see the problems that have yet to manifest. They are coming, and I think Viva points out just one of the many to come.

Edit: is there a place for this type of chatter on this forum? Might be a good way to get this topic permanently out of the city compilations....

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Old Posted May 22, 2008, 1:16 PM
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Well I have alot of connections in real estate and my sources tell me that the market is starting to improve and that within the next year or 2 things will be back to normal. I sure hope things start improving soon. Why dont they make some of these new buildings rentals with the option to buy instead if the market is still bad now. That way they are still able to make money!
I wouldn't trust anyone in the real estate industry to feed you a realistic picture for the simple reason that it's just so bad right now that they either have to feed themselves wishful thinking to keep from going crazy or they have to leave the industry.

If you do some legwork and look at the fundamentals, I don't think we'll see "normal" again for a minimum of three years. I wish to hell I was wrong, as I own downtown, but there are just no fundamentals to support a shorter timeline.
     
     
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Well, I just took a good luck at the price points for Soltice on the Park, myself considering a unit there.

I'm sorry, but those are some insane prices for that location. I'm seriously wondering if the developer will be able to pull it off. The three major things this project has going for it are: 1) The only new construction product in the neighborhood for many years 2) Proximity to Metra & a grocer, and 3) The whole "green" fad that's going around.

But in spite of that, I'm just not sure who's going to pony up such high prices.
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Option ARMs...... Option ARMs......

No one is talking about those yet because when they start going into foreclosure it will be as bad as the sub-primes and that scares the bejeezus out of the real estate and mortgage folks...better to just pretend it doesn't exist.
     
     
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enough with the real estate/mortgage crisis talk in this thread. take that discussion to a new thread.

all further posts in this thread responding to that issue will be deleted.
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Old Posted May 22, 2008, 3:03 PM
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i don't know anything about this koo and associates firm... honte, victor ??
http://www.kooandassociates.com/

The web site gives zero information except the address. I know someone who worked with them on the State Street tower; I can ask for more details.

It is a small firm. I believe it is owned by a woman or the lead designer is a woman.
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An architect named Koo taught second year (the Mies/brick house year) at IIT until about 5 years ago. Probably the same one.
     
     
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Old Posted May 23, 2008, 8:48 PM
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It's not the greatest shot, but SoNo is making quite an impact on the ride in.
The glass looks pretty good too.
     
     
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It's not the greatest shot, but SoNo is making quite an impact on the ride in.
The glass looks pretty good too.
Not the greatest is infinitely better than none at all.

Not too bad either.
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Now picture another SoNo (hopefully), plus the New City YMCA tower, and we've got a nice little density node.
     
     
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Now picture another SoNo (hopefully), plus the New City YMCA tower, and we've got a nice little density node.
What will the New City YMCA look like? Also how many floors is SoNo going to be? How is it doing on sales and when would they start the second SoNo?
     
     
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