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[America 117]

Originally Posted by Dac150

Well from what I hear now there will be an undergound mall, but it will not be as big as the former one. The concourse however will be bigger being that it extends from Fulton Street, through the WTC and into the WFC. I'm sure that'll be lined with retail. The other retail is above ground and in some cases inside a few of the towers.

They way I look at it, it'll be the best of both worlds. You'll have the undergound mall and large concourse, as well as above grade retail.

that sounds good
im glad to see a new mall at wtc

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by America 117

that sounds good
im glad to see a new mall at wtc

Yes, that was one of the aspects of the Trade Center that I liked the most. I remember when I was younger I though the underground features of the complex were the most amazing thing ever. Of course, I still do to a degree. I don't know, underground stations, garages, and malls have always been appealing to me. That's why I look foward to walking this concourse.

[NYguy]

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/not-yet-on-the-skyline-but-above-street-level/

Not Yet on the Skyline, but Above Street Level




By David W. Dunlap
May 19, 2008


Only 1,761 feet to go.

Another tangible and fanfare-free milestone occurred over the weekend at ground zero, where two steel columns of 1 World Trade Center rose above street level for the first time. That means the 1,776-foot skyscraper, until now an entirely subterranean structure, will be doing the rest of its climbing in the public eye.

In contrast to the heavily orchestrated ceremonies of past years — white doves taking flight (they turned out to be homing pigeons) and a 20-ton cornerstone being set into place (it had to be picked up again and moved off site) — the latest milestone was noted quite modestly by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Rather than staging speeches, the agency simply handed out prepared, two-sentence statements from Anthony R. Coscia, the chairman, and Christopher O. Ward, the new executive director.

One World Trade Center, also called the Freedom Tower, broke through the street-level barrier on Saturday when workers for DCM Erectors attached new sections atop two of the 24 jumbo columns that form the building’s perimeter. The additional steel brought the columns to a height of about 15 feet above grade. The authority said the 22 other columns were expected to sprout through May, June and July. Tishman Construction Corporation is the construction manager for the project, which is to be completed in 2012.

For now, the best vantages of the rising columns are either from the corner of Washington and Vesey Streets (through a chain-link fence) or from within the second-floor gallery of the Winter Garden at Battery Park City. If you wait long enough, however, you won’t have any trouble seeing the structure from almost any nearby vantage. And if you wait longer than that, you won’t be able to avoid seeing it from almost anywhere, since it will be the tallest in New York City.

[Lecom]

It will be a real reason to celebrate when the full floor fleshes out above grade, rather than two sticks of steel. Now that will be real progress. Still, better than nothing.

And that West Street streetwall is looking nice, with the Visionaire completed.

[ZZ-II]

i'm really interested to know when the first whole floor is above streetlevel, hopefully not just in August or so

[Lecom]

I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I guess it should actually be completed around early August. The first floor is possibly the most complex. The rest of the base, with all the technical floors and special reinforcement, should take a while too, but once we get past the "cube" of the base, the office floors should climb much faster.

[timba86]

Originally Posted by Lecom

I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I guess it should actually be completed around early August. ...

That long?? For one floor? Wow I didn't know it would go that slow in the beginning?

[America 117]

Originally Posted by Dac150

Yes, that was one of the aspects of the Trade Center that I liked the most. I remember when I was younger I though the underground features of the complex were the most amazing thing ever. Of course, I still do to a degree. I don't know, underground stations, garages, and malls have always been appealing to me. That's why I look foward to walking this concourse.

theres just something really cool about underground malls

[Kamatzu]

Originally Posted by timba86

That long?? For one floor? Wow I didn't know it would go that slow in the beginning?

Funny, I thought the exact opposite. Haha, I was expecting it would be much later than August. Can't wait for this to shoot for the sky!

To quote a good friend from the 90's, "To infinity, and beyond!"

[America 117]

i heard that the freedom tower will be the tallest all office building in the world
im not sure if its true.

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by America 117

i heard that the freedom tower will be the tallest all office building in the world
im not sure if its true.

It will be the tallest office building in the United States.

[aluminum]

^ If measered by spire height, which other all-office building is taller than FT ?

[America 117]

if you go to the drawings in this wedsite it has the freedom tower as the 3erd
tallest building in the world

[America 117]

Originally Posted by aluminum

^ If measered by spire height, which other all-office building is taller than FT ?

nun
if you count the spire it is the tallest all office building in the world

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by aluminum

^ If measered by spire height, which other all-office building is taller than FT ?

(We measure by spire height, making the FT the tallest office building in the United States once completed).

[America 117]

Originally Posted by Dac150

(We measure by spire height, making the FT the tallest office building in the United States once completed).

and in north and south america

[Chicagoguy]

Originally Posted by America 117

can we please just get on topic
i understand but please back on topic

Alright agreed back to topic. So I know there is going to be a restaurant on the 102 floor of Freedom. Is that the top floor? I have heard so many different floor counts it is hard to be sure which is right. Every website is different!

[America 117]

im not sure but i bet ny guy knows
last i heard it was a floor awey from the top

[Chicagoguy]

Originally Posted by America 117

im not sure but i bet ny guy knows
last i heard it was a floor awey from the top

Ok cool...I am hoping that it will be a good place to eat that I will have to check out once the tower is finished! I am glad New York is finally building and proposing supertall's again. For the longest time I didnt think New York would try anymore!

[Kamatzu]

Wikipedia says the 100th and 101st floors will be the restaurant, but be warned that Wikipedia isn't always current or correct.

Part of me is hoping they'll rename it to the effect of "Windows on the World." Though, of course, I'll have to eat at that tourist trap regardless of the name. =P