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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 10:09 PM
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The Company plans to build a Hotel with a roof top bar lounge, of up to 91 nicely designed interior suites, and energy efficient Hotel. The interiors will be exquisite but will be for the 20th century where beauty, green and energy are of high concerns. The development is lead by Graham Alexander, a developer of hotels in Mayan Riviera Mexico and Chilliwack, B.C., Canada.
"nicely-designed"?
"20th century"?

Is that a legit press release? Does anybody know if this is a real project, because the press release comes across as a little amateurish, so I wonder if this is a hoax.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 10:27 PM
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Don't know for sure, I do know I have heard nothing about this project, but that doesn't always mean anything.

As far as I knew Holborn owned the whole block not just the bay parkade and one of the conditions of rezoning was to rehabilate the existing hotel there, preserving the low cost rooms. Didn't think anything had changed.
Maybe Leftcoaster can shed some light.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 10:49 PM
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"nicely-designed"?
"20th century"?

Is that a legit press release? Does anybody know if this is a real project, because the press release comes across as a little amateurish, so I wonder if this is a hoax.
amateurish? lol. yeah.. i'd say so.
have you seen their website? http://www.rsdv.net/
the company (Rancho Santa Monica Developments, Inc.) has a vancouver address listed (north van actually) but a quick look at live maps and it's a condo complex. someone working out of their home probably.

The hotel chain's website is equally — and doesn't lend much to their credibility > http://www.parayso.com/
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 11:20 PM
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"nicely-designed"?
"20th century"?

Is that a legit press release? Does anybody know if this is a real project, because the press release comes across as a little amateurish, so I wonder if this is a hoax.
There was a thread, or posting, about this back in the fall (maybe October) either here or on SSC.

I'm impressed - designed a hotel in Chiliwack!!!! —????
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 11:30 PM
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It's a real company, they bought the site a few years ago. But yeah, this project seems like amateur-hour, and I highly doubt this will go ahead given that it is very difficult to finance a hotel project right now and that these guys have very little experience and evidently a questionable covenant.

"Currently in Concept and Financing Stage" lol, good luck!

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Jlousaa- Holborn tried to assemble the whole block, but were unsuccessful. They own everything up to, but not including 626 Seymour.
     
     
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Reputable developer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_G_Alexander

Following his stockbroker career, he later began a controversial development in Chilliwack, British Columbia in an area where it was claimed by local homeowners that the entire hillside was moving causing home foundations to sink and deform[2]. The homeowners later sued the City of Chilliwack. The City, with no other alternative other than to support an issued Thurber Geotehnical Report[3], placed a building ban and moratorium on the entire eastern hillsides, including as much land as to the edge of Promintory to as far east as the Falls Golf Course [4]. This was the first time in the history of British Columbia that such a large area of land (well over 100,000 acres) was frozen from building
     
     
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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 12:26 AM
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^Yeah no kidding! Unfortunately I have not seen any information on this project up until now but I do agree with the sentiment here that it looks pretty suspect. The rendering is quite pedestrian and the company seems like a shell. I would not be surprised if this was some rouse by the owner to boost the property's value, by proving to holborn that the site is not just the last piece to its property but a developable plot.

In other downtown news the corresponding renovations to the existing VCEC should be getting under way soon. The project will see the main atrium renovated to bring it up to an aesthetic standard and new tie ins with the walkway to the Convention Centre Expansion. The project is slated to start June 15th and complete November 28th.
     
     
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Okay after reading the following document it appears I was confused, Holborn only owns the Bay Parkade and Dunsmuir House.

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20061212/documents/tt3_BayParkade.pdf

3. Rezoning Inquiry for Bay Parkade Site
In September 2007, after several discussions with staff, Henriquez Partners Architects submitted a letter of inquiry about rezoning the land occupied by the Bay Parkade and Dunsmuir House, on behalf of the Holborn Group.

The height limit on the site is about 291 ft. set by a view cone over most of the site (the normal height limit in the DDOPD is 300 ft.). Preliminary analysis indicates it is possible to accommodate up to about 10.0 FSR on the site, including (for example) a major office tower, a major hotel, and two residential towers, as well as Dunsmuir House itself. Thus, it appears possible to negotiate a rezoning that could meet both City and the inquirer’s objectives.


Anyways I won't be investing in the Parayso project.
     
     
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They encourage interested parties to make a reservation via PAYPAL! for their Caribbean location.
     
     
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City traffic report indicates a full traffic signal will be installed at Homer & Helmcken
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2008, 3:17 AM
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a new public toilet is being installed just off Granville on Nelson or Helmicken if I remember correctly looks about ready to umm rock
     
     
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this sounds promising..

Vancouver's struggles over building new office space downtown
http://communities.canada.com/vancouvers...-building-new-office-space-downtown.aspx

It set off a small bomb in town two weeks ago when I wrote the story saying that the Aquilini group's plans to build an office tower next to GM Place had been put on hold indefinitely. President David Negrin told me it was because they couldn't get anyone to commit to pre-leasing at rates that would cover the cost of construction. The most people were willing to pay there was $30-32 a square foot


I had more than one e-mail after that from people suggesting that Aquilini's people were acting too much like residential developers, who are used to the financial security of condo pre-sales (along with allusions to the fact that Negrin has just come moved over from the World of Condos at Concord Pacific.) They were also anxious that I check around and verify for myself that office space is being built in Vancouver, office lease rates are going up to $40 to $45 a square foot, and the other planned tower is still going ahead.

Here's what I found:

Tony Astles from Bentall confirmed that his company is certainly going ahead with its plans for Bentall 6.

"We're not bailing."

Astles said there's a lot of interest in the building, especially with the Shangri-La nearby that's changing the neighbourhood.

"There are a number of players who want to be downtown." To try to accommodate that, Bentall has moved some people from downtown offices out to Broadway.

But it's a long process for the new building because the company is going through a rezoning to get increased height, in order to make the tower pay.
As well, they're watching what's happening with construction costs to decide on the right moment to build. They have two buildings under construction at their Broadway Tech Centre, near Renfrew and "we did see a little more interest from the contractors for those last two buildings."

As well, Bentall has to relocate its existing tenants from the existing building at 745 Thurlow.

Bob Laurie, the ever-opinionated commercial broker who is now withCushman, agreed that the Aquilini site would not lease for the same rates as the CBD. "They were just early, checking out wether the Triple A shortage would induce some people to move there."

That's not happening yet. Laurie thinks that the eastern end of downtown Georgia could become a hot new office zone at some point, especially if buildings like the Bay parkade and the post office are developed with office space. "But it could be five to 10 years."

And here's the view from Trish French, the senior planner who is dealing with the whole office-space issue from the city end.

She said she was disappointed about the Aquilini decision on the tower.

"It's regrettable. We certainly would have looked forward to having a building there. But we don't believe this is a portent of something bad."

But she said the city is not about to change its policies on requiring or zoning for office space in areas like northeast False Creek because of one developer's experience at one point in time.

"From the planning perspective, we're looking at the long-term needs of the city."

That means they are going to hold to their position that there should be a significant amount of office space built into the zoning for northeast False Creek, which could become an attractive commercial area once there is a critical mass of business tenants down there.

French said that planning for office space in Vancouver is different from cities like Calgary or Toronto. There just aren't a lot of large corporations here and not a lot of pre-leasing. Instead, the majority of office space downtown is leased by smaller firms that make shorter time commitments. That makes office-tower development tougher in some ways, but not impossible.

The city is currently seeing almost 700,000 square feet of office space being built in the downtown peninsula, either in smaller buildings or in buildings that have mixed residential and commercial space.
     
     
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this sounds promising..

Vancouver's struggles over building new office space downtown
http://communities.canada.com/vancouvers...-building-new-office-space-downtown.aspx

It set off a small bomb in town two weeks ago when I wrote the story saying that the Aquilini group's plans to build an office tower next to GM Place had been put on hold indefinitely. President David Negrin told me it was because they couldn't get anyone to commit to pre-leasing at rates that would cover the cost of construction. The most people were willing to pay there was $30-32 a square foot


I had more than one e-mail after that from people suggesting that Aquilini's people were acting too much like residential developers, who are used to the financial security of condo pre-sales (along with allusions to the fact that Negrin has just come moved over from the World of Condos at Concord Pacific.) They were also anxious that I check around and verify for myself that office space is being built in Vancouver, office lease rates are going up to $40 to $45 a square foot, and the other planned tower is still going ahead.

Here's what I found:

Tony Astles from Bentall confirmed that his company is certainly going ahead with its plans for Bentall 6.

"We're not bailing."

Astles said there's a lot of interest in the building, especially with the Shangri-La nearby that's changing the neighbourhood.

"There are a number of players who want to be downtown." To try to accommodate that, Bentall has moved some people from downtown offices out to Broadway.

But it's a long process for the new building because the company is going through a rezoning to get increased height, in order to make the tower pay.
As well, they're watching what's happening with construction costs to decide on the right moment to build. They have two buildings under construction at their Broadway Tech Centre, near Renfrew and "we did see a little more interest from the contractors for those last two buildings."

As well, Bentall has to relocate its existing tenants from the existing building at 745 Thurlow.

Bob Laurie, the ever-opinionated commercial broker who is now withCushman, agreed that the Aquilini site would not lease for the same rates as the CBD. "They were just early, checking out wether the Triple A shortage would induce some people to move there."

That's not happening yet. Laurie thinks that the eastern end of downtown Georgia could become a hot new office zone at some point, especially if buildings like the Bay parkade and the post office are developed with office space. "But it could be five to 10 years."

And here's the view from Trish French, the senior planner who is dealing with the whole office-space issue from the city end.

She said she was disappointed about the Aquilini decision on the tower.

"It's regrettable. We certainly would have looked forward to having a building there. But we don't believe this is a portent of something bad."

But she said the city is not about to change its policies on requiring or zoning for office space in areas like northeast False Creek because of one developer's experience at one point in time.

"From the planning perspective, we're looking at the long-term needs of the city."

That means they are going to hold to their position that there should be a significant amount of office space built into the zoning for northeast False Creek, which could become an attractive commercial area once there is a critical mass of business tenants down there.

French said that planning for office space in Vancouver is different from cities like Calgary or Toronto. There just aren't a lot of large corporations here and not a lot of pre-leasing. Instead, the majority of office space downtown is leased by smaller firms that make shorter time commitments. That makes office-tower development tougher in some ways, but not impossible.

The city is currently seeing almost 700,000 square feet of office space being built in the downtown peninsula, either in smaller buildings or in buildings that have mixed residential and commercial space.
What's the location of Bentall 6?
     
     
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across the street from shangri-la, where the parkade is;

     
     
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Thanks for the article.
It looks like Vancouver will have to increase height limits on all zoned office plots if they want developers to build downtown.
     
     
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The comment about relocating tenants rom 745 Thurlow is a bit odd. They're just retail and restaurant tenants. Probably easy to buy out those leases and promise space in the new building.
     
     
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The comment about relocating tenants rom 745 Thurlow is a bit odd. They're just retail and restaurant tenants. Probably easy to buy out those leases and promise space in the new building.
If they don't have demo clauses, they'd likely just buy them out. It's doubtful any of those tenants will occupy the new tower at the rates Bentall would be asking.

Also, in the next year or so look for the retail and plaza to be redesigned at the Grosvenor building with high end retail/restaurant fronting on Alberni...expect WMC to follow suit in redeveloping the retail at 1090 West Georgia once Holborn's sales centre lease is up in 2010.
     
     
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14-storey hotel possible for Seymour
Roadblocks could delay, or even kill, planned ParaYso Hotel

Bruce Constantineau

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Saturday, May, 10, 2008

Graham Alexander wants to build downtown Vancouver's newest boutique hotel -- a 14-storey, 91-suite development on a site now occupied by a vacant retail building at 620 Seymour Street.

He even has a name for the $27-million proposal -- the ParaYso Hotel Vancouver.

Alexander is president and majority owner of Rancho Santa Monica Developments, which recently bought the Seymour property from Taiwanese owners for $5.5 million.

"It's the perfect time for a project like this," he said in an interview. "Downtown hotel occupancy levels are around 71 or 72 per cent, and the after-boom of the Olympics should make things even stronger."

Alexander proposes to begin construction by the summer of 2009, with completion by the summer of 2011.

But there are potential roadblocks that could delay or even kill the project. Alexander needs to raise about $7.7 million over the next year to make the deal work, and he's trying to do that through a limited partnership and a share issue.

He also needs city approval, and planners say the project still requires considerable analysis and design work before it can proceed.

"Given the small size of this site, there will be challenges with respect to proposed use, parking, height, massing and possibly other issues," city development planner Bob Adair said in an e-mail Friday.

The site has 15.24 metres (50 feet) of frontage on Seymour Street.

Alexander, a former stockbroker who completed a 32-lot residential project in Chilliwack in 2006 and a hotel development in Tulum, Mexico last year, said he wanted to include a residential component in the Seymour project, but the city has a moratorium on condo projects in that part of town.

He said he still hopes to increase the number of floors and hotel rooms in the project.

If it goes ahead, the ParaYso Hotel would be one of the few hotel-only projects to be built in the city in several years. Two other Vancouver boutique hotels under construction -- the Loden (opening this summer) and the Shangri-La (opening early next year) -- are part of major mixed-use condo/hotel developments.

Vancouver hotel industry consultant Angus Wilkinson said the 600-block Seymour is an "evolving location", and not one that would obviously attract upscale boutique hotel customers.

"That whole area is still in a state of redevelopment. And with just 91 units, I don't know how you make the numbers work to make it an economic proposition," he said. "It's hard to make an economic case for anything under 100 rooms."

Wilkinson noted economic realities have forced restaurateur Umberto Menghi to delay or abandon his plan to build a 16-storey, 40-unit hotel next to his Il Giardino restaurant on Hornby Street.

A proposed first-year budget for the ParaYso Hotel forecasts monthly occupancy rates ranging from 68 to 92 per cent, and average room rates ranging from $200 to $265.
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Old Posted May 10, 2008, 7:03 PM
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Kind of amusing (also sad) to see that a moratorium on condos is harming other forms of development. Also, 14 floors seems low for that area - would it really not be economical to build office space on top of that?
     
     
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here's some pics i found on flickr showing the demolition of the Travel Lodge motel on Howe st.




source; http://www.flickr.com/photos/photocat62/2482481909/



30 storey mixed use high-rise development with commercial uses at grade and residential units in a 286 ft. tower. The proposed density is 6.98 FSR. Developer; Cressey Drake Developments LLP, Architect; IBI/HB Architects

this already went to the UDP but was rejected. it's due for a second go pretty soon..
     
     
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