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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 3:59 AM
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No, this is a misstatement. It's a fine building and probably one of the most acceptable Postmodern designs in the city (coming from someone who hates Postmodernism). The craftsmanship is well above average. The details are quite nice.

However, the Farwell is the real loss here, IMO, even though we'll be able to see headlights through the old facade.
I also like the Terra Museum building, but I wouldn't complain if they built something taller on that portion of the site and left Farwell intact.
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 4:23 AM
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so, the Ritz has no street-level retail?

that can't be right
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 4:59 AM
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The Children's Museum looks classy, but that's not the quality I expected or wanted out of the building.

The only whimsical element in the entire thing is the cantilever (which, granted, is pretty cool) but there isn't even any color in the design....
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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 5:04 AM
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Thanks for the renders on these. I was skimming through this thread and I glanced at these and said to myself that looks like a hospital. Sure enough Children's it was.

Just because it looked like a hospital to me is not a shot at the architural style at least from my perspective [form follows function or better stated Convergent evolution].

The standard bearer of urban hospitals IMO is Northwestern hospital [Galter Pavilion] downtown. That is a hospital that many urban metros should try to emulate.

NW [Galter Pavilion] is the tallest hospital building in the Western Hemisphere, and the third-tallest in the world. http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=galterpavilion-chicago-il-usa 123 m 402 ft 22 1997


There is currently a massive expansion/replacement-hospital growth period in the Chicagoland area at this time. Several hospitals are under construction as we speak. The dollars are nothing to sneeze at, combined we are talking about billions of dollars in infrastructure alone. Not to mention that even a modest 250 bed hospital can employ in excess of 5000 jobs of which 1/2 are rather well paid.

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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 5:26 AM
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i like this.
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 6:00 AM
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you don't like the terra building? whaaaaat? really?

about the height:

it's taller than 10 stories, and outside of a few exceptions on the gauntlet, that's too tall in my book. burnham's dream was to have the ave lined with buildings that maintained a similar height...

*newberry

imo, when you line the ave with a bunch of tall buildings, great buildings like allerton and masterpieces like hancock lose their significance.

this will become yet ANOTHER 900nmichigan, park tower, chicago place, and so on----> too tall.
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2008, 6:41 PM
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Damn, the 630 N. McClurg towers are sweet, how did I miss that?
The streetwall, the little plaza at the corners, no blank walls, the height, strong square massing...
Hell yeah, it's got everything working.
     
     
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What is the name of this building? I am curious to see what the balconies look like in the renders.
     
     
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Before i go ahead and post this i wanted to see if anyone has already beat me to it.

An updated version of the Central Station book written by Fogelson (sp?) was handed out to all residents of Museum Park developments a few weeks ago. There are som really interesting tid-bits in there along with renderings of the Gateway project (like 12-15 new high rises) from 14th to 22nd street over the metra electric tracks. If no one has seen this before, i'll post it. Otherwise, some other interesting facts..

- Frank Gehry was originally going to be the architect for at least one (or more) grant park towers on roosevelt.
- One of the earliest concepts for the central station area on roosevelt that was incredibly close to happening was a soviet-american trade center. The project collapsed along with the USSR. But not before Fogelson was taken to an undisclosed location in Russia to attend a super upscale dinner party. Contracts had already been signed before this concept fell apart.
- The large median down indiana ave was (is?) supposed to have a light rail track.
- Mayor Daley lives in Park Row
- There is a hillary rodham clinton park somewhere in the south loop

if anyone finds these interesting, i'll post a few more things i came across in the book. Otherwise, if this is old news, i'll be quiet.
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^^ the HRC park is on Prairie Avenue, next to the Glessner House, in front of the Clark House. Quite lovely.
     
     
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Before i go ahead and post this i wanted to see if anyone has already beat me to it.

An updated version of the Central Station book written by Fogelson (sp?) was handed out to all residents of Museum Park developments a few weeks ago. There are som really interesting tid-bits in there along with renderings of the Gateway project (like 12-15 new high rises) from 14th to 22nd street over the metra electric tracks. If no one has seen this before, i'll post it. Otherwise, some other interesting facts..

- Frank Gehry was originally going to be the architect for at least one (or more) grant park towers on roosevelt.
- One of the earliest concepts for the central station area on roosevelt that was incredibly close to happening was a soviet-american trade center. The project collapsed along with the USSR. But not before Fogelson was taken to an undisclosed location in Russia to attend a super upscale dinner party. Contracts had already been signed before this concept fell apart.
- The large median down indiana ave was (is?) supposed to have a light rail track.
- Mayor Daley lives in Park Row
- There is a hillary rodham clinton park somewhere in the south loop

if anyone finds these interesting, i'll post a few more things i came across in the book. Otherwise, if this is old news, i'll be quiet.
POST IT
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Old Posted May 5, 2008, 11:05 PM
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........good bye Hanig's Shoe Store (they were the only local (Chicago) business left on the Mag Mile ....
Crate & Barrel is based in Chicago, as is Walgreen's and Garrett's (the popcorn place). There's probably others that don't spring to mind immediately. But yeah, duh, most of Michigan Avenue is clothing stores, and most good clothing brands are European (Cole Haan, incidentally, was founded in Chicago but is now owned by Nike).

But the real loss is the building, which will look like shit when it's obviously a parking garage on the side.
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Old Posted May 6, 2008, 2:09 AM
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Before i go ahead and post this i wanted to see if anyone has already beat me to it.

- Frank Gehry was originally going to be the architect for at least one (or more) grant park towers on roosevelt.
I'm not a huge Gehry fan but I'd be interested in seeing what he could do with the site (I don't really like GP3). And please do post it.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2008, 6:03 AM
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BP to move to 20 S.Wacker

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BP to move 1,000 jobs from suburbs to Merc complex

May 5, 2008

BY DAVID ROEDER [email protected]
The oil company BP PLC tentatively has agreed to move 1,000 jobs from the western suburbs to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange complex at 10 to 30 S. Wacker.

......Schoenberg said CME will continue leasing the lower floor to retain the corporate headquarters at 20 S. Wacker. The huge open spaces on both floors will be redesigned to be suitable as offices, with new windows that overlook Wacker.
.......In its hunt for downtown space, BP had considered occupying a new building Fifield Cos. has proposed for 601 W. Monroe.
No new awesome green building which stinks. Hopefully Fifield can still get someone to lease in a new tallest west of the river.
     
     
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^^^^^^^^
A move in the right direction. But it also signifies that a new office tower will now be less likely.

BP's is only leasing ONE floor? How could that have anchored a new tower anyhow?
     
     
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A move in the right direction. But it also signifies that a new office tower will now be less likely.

BP's is only leasing ONE floor? How could that have anchored a new tower anyhow?
No...the article says they will lease 240,000 square feet. The one floor was in reference to 35,000 square feet of space that they will occupy that is part of the old trading floors.
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Well for a new tower to make sense, loop vacancies have to be low, so BP is doing their part by moving downtown, and taking up current vacant space. Now there'll be more need for a new tower for someone else.
     
     
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