NEW YORK | Bank Of America Tower | 1,200' Pinnacle / 945' Roof | 53 FLOORS

[charmedone]

Originally Posted by antinimby

They've really let that Jerry Springer ad go to hell, didn't they?

Or is it intentional?

yea i nodiced that to how long has that been up for ???

[James Bond Agent 007]

Man, it's still so buried. It almost seems kind-of a waste to have such a tall building you can hardly see. Imagine - a super-tall which serves as nothing more than a bit of skyline filler.



Is there such a thing as a point beyond which there's little point in building a super-tall? If you build a super-tall but you can hardly see it, is it worth the bother?

[philvia]

Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007

Is there such a thing as a point beyond which there's little point in building a super-tall? If you build a super-tall but you can hardly see it, is it worth the bother?

that is almost a silly question

[Scruffy]

Ofcourse it's worth building. For one thing, its functional. Its not built just to be looked at. And if just looking at it were their focus, its across the street from the 2nd most popular park in the city where it can be admired for hours

[tdawg]

I disagree that it is buried. I've scanned Midtown from the GWB and the BQE in Queens and it's very prominent on the skyline, as prominent as a building under 2000' can be in Midtown Manhattan.

[CHAPINM1]

I can see it easy coming in on the Green Line coming in from Queens. Also, when seeing it up close just yesterday, there were more windows knocked out from that construction accident than I originally thought... BTW on a side note, we've been seeing some really 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 weather the last two days or so...

[Beetjeveen]

Yesterday their was an episode of Megastructures I believe dedicated to this skyscraper. It was called Ultimate skyscraper NYC. Does anybody if it is able to watch this episode only, or does anybody have a link to a torrent?

[banned]

There may be some places that one could find it, but I'd rather not discuss it on a public board. I will not be answering PM's either, but it should be available.

[aluminum]

Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007

Man, it's still so buried. It almost seems kind-of a waste to have such a tall building you can hardly see. Imagine - a super-tall which serves as nothing more than a bit of skyline filler.

First: Its absolutely not buried. Its rises more than 200' over the vast 700' high plateau of midtown Manhattan. The only city where it could seem buried is *cough* *cough* Dubai *cough* *cough*

Second: This building is -not even close- to being called a waste, its a 2msf office tower catalyzing the economic growth of NYC.

Third: Please don't call it a super-tall (you may call it a super-giant office tower though)

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by aluminum

Second: This building is -not even close- to being called a waste, its a 2msf office tower catalyzing the economic growth of NYC.

Third: Please don't call it a super-tall (you may call it a super-giant office tower though)

Well, it's at a supertall height, that make you feel better? Anyway, I'm already used to seeing this bold spire on the skyline, especially from Midtown South. It adds a nice, vertical thrust to the mass of skyscrapers that Midtown has become. All the more reason I can't wait until the Tower Verre rises. With all of the new towers planned, there's the potential for spires to lose dominance on the Midtown skyline, can't forget about that.

Also, I agree that this tower is hardly a waste. Some of the most expensive office space in Manhattan didn't keep this one from being gobbled up quickly. With the shortage of new office space in Manhattan, even the speculative towers (like 11 TS and Boston Properties 8th Ave tower) are finding tenants before really getting off the ground. It's precious space indeed.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Well OK, next time I go to NY I'll have to check out its relative "buried-ness" myself. It just looks kinda buried in these pics I guess.

BTW when I asked (somewhat rhetorically) whether it was worth it building a tall building you could barely see, I didn't mean the commercial aspect of it. Of course if there's someone willing to take up that much space, it is "worth it." I was referring to its "tall-ness," not its "volume-ness" when I asked if there was much point.

But if you guys say this isn't as buried as it appears to me in these pictures, I'll take your word for it, at least until I see it myself.

[skellergroup]

Is there any interesting retail going in this building?

I miss NYC so much. Especially Bryant Park.

This is turning out great...but certainly taking some time to finish.

[CoolCzech]

^Yeah, just like with the NY Times building: the main shaft shoots right up, but things suddenly seem to come a crawl when it comes to finishing off the crown.

[bkraig4life]

I went to Newark about a month ago and even from the airport area, I was amazed at the sheer height of these buildings. Midtown looked like a wall, and because Ive been following this site, I definately could see the BOA rising above the other buildings. Much taller in real life than photos, maybe 5 miles away?

[jmecklenborg]

>jmeckleborg, you can't use NY and compare them with those other cities. For one, there's subway lines galore running underneath most of Manhattan. Until those other cities have more mass transit options, you can't use NY's model to make your case for no parking garages.


This past week I spoke in front of a young republicans group arguing for rail transit in my city and was heckled and misquoted by the newspaper. The leader of the group called New York City "Fascist" and said he never wants to visit or live there (have to wonder if he knows Fascism was a right-of-center movement) and that if it's in New York it must be bad, including subways. They're against anything "subsidized", oblivious to the fact that roads and suburbs are subsidized head to toe. They never have the facts straight and get an "expert" to turn the numbers around.

[antinimby]

LOL. Didn't I tell you not to use NY as an example?

By the way, Republicans in other parts of the country see NY as a very liberal city and so they're going to have negative feelings toward it.

While it is true that NY is generally a liberal city politically, it is not as liberal as most people think, at least nothing like the Bostons and San Franciscos of the world.

[jmecklenborg]

^Anecdotally I've always thought that New York was a lot friendlier than Boston. Anyway, let's not get off-topic...


>Didn't I tell you not to use NY as an example?

I think visiting New York and not being impressed and coming to respect it is like being indifferent to the Grand Canyon. Also, people tend to have zero knowledge of railroad and mass transit history, few know that the original New York subway lines were built by companies, not the government. Yet these republicans are fighting the placing of tolls on a replacement highway bridge here. Did somebody say subsidy?

BTW I haven't been in New York since summer 2006, I seem to remember that this tower was already under construction then.

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg

Anyway, let's not get off-topic...

Then resume conversation about the BofA Tower and not the history of the NYC subway system, or young republicans.

[Fabb]

My contribution :

(most of the followings are a couple of days old)

[aluminum]

^ Nice pictures, especially the second one. Thanks Fabb.