Harry Stinson on downtown Hamilton

[the dude]

upon closer inspection, the property is approximately .73 ha - just a slight typo there. here's a close-up:

[the dude]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

What could go on the property if it's zoned as istitutional? hotel? restaurant?

The Neighbourhood Institutional (I1) zone allows uses that you would see in your neighbourhood. These local uses have little impact on the surrounding residents and are used by those living near by. Some of the uses that would be allowed in the Neighbourhood Institutional zone are:

Elementary Schools
Places of Worship
Residential Dwellings
Retirement Homes
Residential Care Facility

*taken from city of hamilton website*

[raisethehammer]

the amazing thing to me is that 7 storey building that used to sit atop the Claremont many, many years ago.
Good luck building that today.

What a prime location this is though. Awesome view and IF the city goes with the idea of running LRT up the claremont and closing that 'West 5th' ramp for LRT-only, stinson could fight for a stop at the site of the old hotel/incline railway with a ped bridge across Upper James onto his site.
Again...all things that would be fought tooth and nail by mountain NIMBYS (I think they only thing they allow is vinyl townhomes, and lots of em).

[the dude]

it's amazing we're half the city we are today given that zoning prohibits proper city building. i'd throw out the majority of our zoning laws and start fresh. i mean, do we really need a law to tell us not to build a factory in the middle of a neighbourhood? just start over and stop punishing good city planning. the greatest cities on earth evolved centuries before the ordinance of zoning. i think that says it all.

[flar]

It's a nice neighbourhood in a good location. I imagine Stinson might be thinking of an infill midrise or townhouse type development here, incorporating the existing house, with some kind of small commercial component mixed in. I couldn't see a large scale project or highrise going here. It also sounds like the existing church might be involved in any development.

[the dude]

i stole one of your photos, flar. you can see the outline of one of the buildings at the top of the photo. the view from there would be wicked and if a new building were constructed it would have great visibility from downtown...of course, he hasn't even bought the thing yet.

[raisethehammer]

Harry just called CHML to chat about this.
No specifics, but he did say that it will be compatible with the neighbourhood and that he's hoping that being a neighbour himself will help the process along.

[block43]

I think that the Niagara Escarpment Commission would limit the height of any new development. So this site would probably be lowrise, maybe midrise if he can prove to the NEC that it would not affect the viewshed.

[oldcoote]

Well, I don't think Stinson will get back into the restaurant biz, that's for sure.

My money is on a low-rise condo development, or perhaps townhouses.

[the dude]

Originally Posted by block43

I think that the Niagara Escarpment Commission would limit the height of any new development. So this site would probably be lowrise, maybe midrise if he can prove to the NEC that it would not affect the viewshed.

ya, which is hilarious considering they managed to blow a ginormous hole in it a couple kms to the east.

[flar]

The view from there might look something like this, but from a little higher up:

[realcity]

great view

our zoning is ridiculous. everything urban is now illegal. But the city has no problem changing zoning to accommodate a drive-thru or changing industrial to accommodate residential and box retail.

I hope Harry can apply for a rezone to allow for a high rise. How would a highrise there be any different then the Maddison?

[block43]

Originally Posted by realcity

I hope Harry can apply for a rezone to allow for a high rise. How would a highrise there be any different then the Maddison?

I think that the madison had zoning in place to permit a highrise.

[JT Jacobs]

If he gets it, he'll probably turn it into a condo-village-community with shopping and restaurants, too. All he has to do is shift the zoning. The locals wouldn't put that much fuss up if they saw that they'd get good amenities, I imagine.

[FairHamilton]

Originally Posted by the dude

i think it must be 7.3 hectares, though even that seems too big.

7.3 hectares is just over 18 acres. How about .73 hectares which is 1.8 acres?

[highwater]

Flar, that's one of my favourite pics of yours. Such a revelation. The first time I saw it, if it hadn't been for the Pigott Building, I wouldn't have known it was Hamilton! I've sent it around to some of my Hamilton-doubting friends and expats. Thanks.

If it is mid rise or townhouses, I hope the residents don't put the kybosh on it. It's amazing what people will object to.

[chris k]

Originally Posted by raisethehammer

How about a new building like that old one?

lol a bit of an oxymoron?

I honestly have no idea what he is planning there, It could be anything. Hopefully this does not side track the connaught at all. Thats my only fear here but i like the fact that the spec did a peice on him just so we could hear his name again . It does not look like they forgot about him. Hopefully theres more good news to come.....


Cheers

[raisethehammer]

I'd be happy with a LOT of 'new buildings like old ones' in Hamilton. The new shite they build these days is unreal. And it IS shite!

[SteelTown]

Correction published: - 20080502

A story in yesterday's Spectator overestimated the size of a Rosedene Avenue property that developer Harry Stinson is trying to buy. Unity on the Mountain is 0.73 hectares, not 73.

We apologize for the error.

[chris k]

Bob Bratina last night at the meeting said that the connaught would employ about 300 people. Pretty good for one building!


Cheers