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We seem to have our priorities out of whack. Preservationists and the Council don't want us to construct buildings higher than 10 stories, but they don't want to keep a historic McDonald's sign. What's more historic than McDonald's?
generally your right, but it's the Planning Commission not the Council. The Council will probably kick it back. I'm surprised some local group has not gotten involved with the sign, and they still could. It's not really a city issue other than the code which has to be enforced. The sign was in bad shape.
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generally your right, but it's the Planning Commission not the Council. The Council will probably kick it back. I'm surprised some local group has not gotten involved with the sign, and they still could. It's not really a city issue other than the code which has to be enforced. The sign was in bad shape.
If the article is correct, then the only other classic McDonald's sign in use is the one at the original restaurant in Des Plaines, IL.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2008, 12:36 PM
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Just up the road a bit from Huntsville is a beautiful place, and if you like candy
you will find it interesting American history.

"Located just outside of charming Lynnville, Tennessee, Milky Way Farms was the dream of American candy bar king Frank C. Mars, founder of The Mar-O-Bar Company. Mars fell in love with the Giles County countryside in the early 1930s and established the Farm that would soon become a historic Tennessee treasure"

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Huntsville losing landmark sign, it had been hit by a car and had some damage.
I would hope the city would try and keep it, maybe it will be restored and sent back to be on display downtown.


Workers today are dismantling the single-arch McDonald's sign at the South Memorial Parkway McDonald's - one of only two single-arch signs still in use - and preparing to send it to the American Sign Museum in Cincinnatti, Ohio.

The ceremic sign, erected in 1963, can't be restored on site because of new building codes, and must be removed as part of the restaurant's renovation, said Steve Johnson, owner/operator of Johnson Partners, the McDonald's franchisee.

The restaurant is closed while undergoing renovations.
Well they did try, but money of course is an issue. The sign will live on in a safe place so that is good.
Keep on smilin' Speedee!

"Steve Johnson, who co-owns all the McDonald's restaurants in Huntsville and Madison, agreed to turn Speedee over to the museum after trying unsuccessfully to get him moved to the EarlyWorks museum complex. The sign's ceramic facade had become brittle after 45 years outside, he said, and some of its neon parts had stopped working.

"With the size of the sign, it was hard to find a way to preserve it locally," Johnson said Tuesday. "This way, it's going to be refurbished, housed indoors and taken care of."

EarlyWorks Executive Director Bart Williams said Speedee would have been perfect for the Historic Huntsville Depot & Museum on Church Street. Officials there recreated Eunice's Country Kitchen, a beloved local restaurant operated by Eunice Merrell from 1952 to 2004.

Then reality set in: The museum would have had to quickly raise $40,000-$50,000 to move, fix up and install the fragile sign, Williams said.
"We just don't have that kind of money laying around for emergency acquisitions," he said Tuesday. "We try our darndest to preserve those local icons and landmarks; that's why you have museums.

"But, sometimes, we have to let things go."

EarlyWorks' loss is the sign museum's gain. The museum is getting ready to move to a larger space where it plans to recreate an idyllic Main Street to display its growing collection, Swormstedt said.


"We already have a place mapped out" for Speedee, he said. "We'll do a limited amount of restoration just to get it working again, but we like to keep the patina. Part of a sign's life and history is the weathering process."
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Well they did try, but money of course is an issue. The sign will live on in a safe place so that is good.
Keep on smilin' Speedee!

"Steve Johnson, who co-owns all the McDonald's restaurants in Huntsville and Madison, agreed to turn Speedee over to the museum after trying unsuccessfully to get him moved to the EarlyWorks museum complex. The sign's ceramic facade had become brittle after 45 years outside, he said, and some of its neon parts had stopped working.

"With the size of the sign, it was hard to find a way to preserve it locally," Johnson said Tuesday. "This way, it's going to be refurbished, housed indoors and taken care of."

EarlyWorks Executive Director Bart Williams said Speedee would have been perfect for the Historic Huntsville Depot & Museum on Church Street. Officials there recreated Eunice's Country Kitchen, a beloved local restaurant operated by Eunice Merrell from 1952 to 2004.

Then reality set in: The museum would have had to quickly raise $40,000-$50,000 to move, fix up and install the fragile sign, Williams said.
"We just don't have that kind of money laying around for emergency acquisitions," he said Tuesday. "We try our darndest to preserve those local icons and landmarks; that's why you have museums.

"But, sometimes, we have to let things go."

EarlyWorks' loss is the sign museum's gain. The museum is getting ready to move to a larger space where it plans to recreate an idyllic Main Street to display its growing collection, Swormstedt said.


"We already have a place mapped out" for Speedee, he said. "We'll do a limited amount of restoration just to get it working again, but we like to keep the patina. Part of a sign's life and history is the weathering process."
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Look at this new "retro" store and the original Speedee from Huntsville




credit to http://www.agilitynut.com/eateries/main.html
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I hope the TVA megasite in Limestone county wins this it would be great to see good growth in jobs besides high tech near Huntsville.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1209024913168380.xml&coll=2

Alabama on short list for U.S. assembly site for Volkswagen
Thursday, April 24, 2008
DAWN KENT
News staff writer

Alabama is again in the hunt for an automotive assembly plant, this time vying against Michigan and Tennessee as a site for a potential U.S. factory for Volkswagen.

The German automaker, which is expected to decide this summer whether it will build the plant and, if so, where, said Wednesday it had narrowed its evaluation to the three states.

Sites in north Alabama along Interstate 65, as well as land in the Dothan area, property north of Mobile and a parcel spanning the Alabama-Mississippi line north of Meridian, Miss., all have previously been identified by state officials as areas that could handle an automotive assembly plant.

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Germany has great relationship with Alabama
With VW in the news

from the Opelika/Auburn News

STAFF REPORT
Published: April 24, 2008

Gov. Bob Riley will announce a new German-based automotive supplier will locate in Auburn, according to a statement released by the governor’s office.

Riley will make the announcement at an anniversary dinner of the Alabama-Germany Partnership, at which he will receive an award for recruitment.

The dinner is scheduled for 7 p.m. in Huntsville at the Westin.
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Holy Smokes!
this is basically across from Huntsville International Airport

Ground-breaking is set to begin this summer on a billion dollar development that will add 4 million square feet of shopping, dining, entertainment, residential, hotel and office space to the city.

Mayor Sandy Kirkindall announced the major development with Wann Springs Development Group during tonight's annual State of the City Address. It will be on 450 acres at the intersection of County Line Road and Interstate 565.

"This is the most important economic development projects in Madison to date," Kirkindall said. "Our hope and expectation is that this project will serve so many of the needs of Madison and the region as we continue to address the demands of fast growth in North Alabama."
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This VW plant is just what Decatur and Athens need to get back on their feet. Athens' population peaked at just over 20,000 but I believe it's started descending again and it's look like it's going to keep doing that unless something big happens. Decatur is still growing at a very slow pace for a city of its size and it wouldn't surprise me if the population started decreasing within a year or so.

If the area got this plant, it coupled with Sweetwater could mean MASSIVE development along the US 31 corridor between Decatur and Athens, plus a new population explosion that the two cities desperately need.
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A BILLION dollar development in Madison??!! Wow...if we aren't careful, the Huntsville / Decatur area might Overheat!

Wow...I am stunned.
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A BILLION dollar development in Madison??!! Wow...if we aren't careful, the Huntsville / Decatur area might Overheat!

Wow...I am stunned.
I'm amazed. It's gonna be a race to the finish for Sweetwater and this new development.
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I'm amazed. It's gonna be a race to the finish for Sweetwater and this new development.
Well the retail portion will be simply incredible, who will it be?

Nordstom, Macy's, Cabela's? There has got be some serious wheeling and dealing going on.
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Well the retail portion will be simply incredible, who will it be?

Nordstom, Macy's, Cabela's? There has got be some serious wheeling and dealing going on.
See, I'm kinda worried now. Cause, this place is going to be VERY close to Sweetwater, and will definitely draw some people that would otherwise drive to Decatur. Part of me wants to say that people would drive the extra 5-10 minutes to see Bass Pro alone, but the other part of me says that maybe people are more inclined to lean on convenience than I thought.

Dunno, I really shouldn't worry, because I'm sure w/e goes in this Madison development will be stuff that the Huntsville area doesn't already have and it shouldn't create much competition for Sweetwater.
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See, I'm kinda worried now. Cause, this place is going to be VERY close to Sweetwater, and will definitely draw some people that would otherwise drive to Decatur. Part of me wants to say that people would drive the extra 5-10 minutes to see Bass Pro alone, but the other part of me says that maybe people are more inclined to lean on convenience than I thought.

Dunno, I really shouldn't worry, because I'm sure w/e goes in this Madison development will be stuff that the Huntsville area doesn't already have and it shouldn't create much competition for Sweetwater.
You have to think some of this stuff will cannibalize each other. If it's done in
phases as most of these type thinks are then it will help. This could be at least a five year project.
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Holy Smokes!
this is basically across from Huntsville International Airport

Ground-breaking is set to begin this summer on a billion dollar development that will add 4 million square feet of shopping, dining, entertainment, residential, hotel and office space to the city.

Mayor Sandy Kirkindall announced the major development with Wann Springs Development Group during tonight's annual State of the City Address. It will be on 450 acres at the intersection of County Line Road and Interstate 565.

"This is the most important economic development projects in Madison to date," Kirkindall said. "Our hope and expectation is that this project will serve so many of the needs of Madison and the region as we continue to address the demands of fast growth in North Alabama."
So this came out of nowhere. Nobody on here even scented that this was on the radar.

So it's gonna be on the NE corner of Madison Blvd. and County Line?

That seems dangerous with the airport's west(and very long) runway on the other side of 565. I'm sure they took that into consideration just like 6 years ago with the proposed arena that would've gone in that same location.
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You have to think some of this stuff will cannibalize each other. If it's done in
phases as most of these type thinks are then it will help. This could be at least a five year project.
True dat. Still, you have to wonder what'll happen.
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When is the Sweetwater groundbreaking? Last I heard it was May 1st or something like that but it may be later.
If the Madison deal is to start this summer they have been working on it awhile. Wonder what this does to the project on Zierdt?
Probably kills it which may be the reason, is they saw this other one. Could Madison be juggling all these things at the same time
and see who will commit?
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Is it safe to say Debartlo development at Zierdt Road is dead then?
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When is the Sweetwater groundbreaking? Last I heard it was May 1st or something like that but it may be later.
If the Madison deal is to start this summer they have been working on it awhile. Wonder what this does to the project on Zierdt?
Probably kills it which may be the reason, is they saw this other one. Could Madison be juggling all these things at the same time
and see who will commit?
Sweetwater is supposed to break ground on June 1st. I don't think that the city council has had a chance to look at the contract yet. As soon as they look at it and, hopefully, approve it, construction should start very soon.
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Is it safe to say Debartlo development at Zierdt Road is dead then?
I would think so, ALDOT wasn't helping them with the interchange and they wanted to be annexed by Huntsville and now this pops up out of nowhere.
The Mayor of Madison mentioned these two interchanges(Zierdt and County Line) as high priority a year ago so these two proposals sound like they have been in the works for some time.
Don't forget that other big development proposal off of Hughes? maybe. A New Orleans type community but I don't think anything has happened yet.
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