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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 2:17 AM
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That's why I said Houston and Brewsters and not Western.
Someone needs to change their pad. Snippy at everyone in multiple threads lately.

You said local Regina places. You named two that weren't downtown, I mentioned one that is. If you don't want a response...don't post.

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If what I said is classified as "snippy" than so too is what you said. The "..." says quite a bit you see.

You don't want me to post? Fine...there goes about 99% of the rumours and renderings. I'm fine with keeping it to myself rather than sharing.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 4:00 AM
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Someone needs to change their pad. Snippy at everyone in multiple threads lately.

You said local Regina places. You named two that weren't downtown, I mentioned one that is. If you don't want a response...don't post.
That was out of line.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 5:54 AM
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If what I said is classified as "snippy" than so too is what you said. The "..." says quite a bit you see.

You don't want me to post? Fine...there goes about 99% of the rumours and renderings . I'm fine with keeping it to myself rather than sharing.
No offence but that is a load of crap. You do a great job of researching (and its very much appreciated) but don't give yourself that much credit. That said, hopefully everyone settles down a bit and gets back to discussing our great city. I hear that a sports bar is infact confirmed for the Wingate Inn, to be announced in the very near future. (so can we put that in the 1% bracket?)
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 6:51 AM
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Regina members: Petty in-fighting

Enough with the egotistical antagonism. I must ask CCF, Chaps and Migs to direct discussion towards relevant and valued topics of interest (e.g. SSP valued).

Any members actively pursuing and engaging conflict must and will be subject to warnings and/or banishment.

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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 8:46 AM
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Regina members: Petty in-fighting

Enough with the egotistical antagonism. I must ask CCF, Chaps and Migs to direct discussion towards relevant and valued topics of interest (e.g. SSP valued).

Any members actively pursuing and engaging conflict must and will be subject to warnings and/or banishment.

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Fair enough. I apologize for being rude....hectic time of the year.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 9:09 AM
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OK, I think you mean Sask Dr (Arcola turns into it north of Victoria Ave), so I now know what you mean. Yes, it looks as though property all along there will be bought up so as to widen it like Arcola south of Victoria Ave.

As far as the cost of the Vic Ave. improvements, 300 million sounds like a lot to me. A brand new interchange doesn't cost more than 50 million (after doing some Google searches), so your numbers must be way off (unless you can get a source, or someone else can confirm it).

You are right about Victoria Ave. East though... They did have plans to make it a limited-access freeway. But those have all but been scrapped ever since Home Depot was put in. If it was planned better, maybe it could have been done. Heck, a lot of the East end could have been planned better. I suppose the new Trans-Canada Bypass is Plan B, and I'm sure once that is complete, we'll see a lot less heavy traffic on Vic. There is no way a freeway is going in there now though, especially with the new strip mall going in where Petro Canada and Robins used to be at the Vic Square Mall.
1) Now you are agreeing with my points in someways. First off most interchanges these days cost 10-15 million for a basic design, thank-you The numbers of 300 million was in reference to the South East bypass alone, Not Victoria Ave. East, and that was a few years back, I'm sure I have an article somewhere about it from The Leader Post, but it could take months to find... bummer. Now I'm sure the bypass with 4 interchanges would be in the 750 million range. Construction costs keep inflating! But interchanges @ Vic., Arcola, Hwy 1, and east of Siast connecting Prince of Wales. Plus proper divided highway for 8 km between Vic. and Hwy 1 would be extremely expensive.

2) Victoria Ave. East could certainly be expanded, not all interchanges are cloverleaves, parclos, and diamond interchanges as are the examples in Regina. I cannot find the exact term for the interchanges of McLeod Trail and Glenmore Trail, or a few of the interchanges along the Yellowhead in Edmonton but they have a single bridge, with a single intersection on top, all lanes converge there. If I can find a link or picture I'll try to post it or have a link available to you. Things are still possible on Victoria Ave. East. It's just tighter, and a little more expensive. For 100 - 150 million Victoria Ave East could probally be widened (Fleet Street to Quance Gate) as well as interchanges placed at the major intersections of University / Fleet and Prince of Wales, and a couple minors at Truesdale Dr. / Glencairn Road and maybe Coleman, all the other access and egress lanes could be directly tied into those interchanges. But the major issue on Victoria Ave. East is the stop and go traffic along the highway 1 cooridor, which could be still rectified as well as major, major beautification and landscaping projects along the roadway!! Also note the expansion in bedroom communities to the east of Regina, that should also count in Improvement projects


I appreciate debating you, I'm stubborn but so are you!

Links to interchange designs:

http://www.geocities.com/[email protected]/ichange.htm?20089

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverleaf_interchange

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchange_%28road%29

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Regina needs some good artists first then. Not the wannabe scribble you see everywhere.
Regina is full of great artists. Look at Cathedral. Want some great art move there. Have you seen the side of Brandees or the four garage doors on 15th Ave. They are awesome. Also the Joe Fafard sculpture on the main floor of the Hill Tower 1. And its nice having some local art. Thats all i want to say!! Back to the discussion >
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2008, 11:02 PM
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Some photos of the River Heights condos at Regina Av and Elphinstone St:






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the major issue on Victoria Ave. East is the stop and go traffic along the highway 1 cooridor, which could be still rectified as well as major, major beautification and landscaping projects along the roadway!!
I agree, the major issue is the stop-and-go. If there was a way to separate through-traffic (ie just passing through on the T-Can - truckers and such) from local traffic wanting to access Vic Av E residential/commercial, it could lighten the stress and frustration for both.

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The numbers of 300 million was in reference to the South East bypass alone, Not Victoria Ave. East, and that was a few years back, I'm sure I have an article somewhere about it from The Leader Post, but it could take months to find... bummer. Now I'm sure the bypass with 4 interchanges would be in the 750 million range. Construction costs keep inflating! But interchanges @ Vic., Arcola, Hwy 1, and east of Siast connecting Prince of Wales. Plus proper divided highway for 8 km between Vic. and Hwy 1 would be extremely expensive.
Instead of building a whole new bypass road south-east of town, could they just create through-lanes on Vic Av E straight to the existing Hwy 1 bypass, separate from local lanes? Through-lanes sunken down the middle, and local ones along the sides, with intersections as bridges over the through-lanes.

An extreme example of that was envisioned (and thankfully not built) for Toronto's Spadina Expy in the city core, but maybe a simplified version would be feasible for suburban Vic Av E. If I remember right there are big ditches on either side of Vic Av E that could accommodate the necessary widening.


Photo: spacing.ca - way bigger and more extreme that what I'm thinking, but illustrates the concept

Speaking of extremes that can be abstracted to help understand something in Regina: Death of a city block. It's about the fall of middle-class neighbourhoods in Detroit; though extreme, there are some parallels with what's going on in North-Central Regina and how it can be turned around.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2008, 2:48 AM
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Some photos of the River Heights condos at Regina Av and Elphinstone St:






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I agree, the major issue is the stop-and-go. If there was a way to separate through-traffic (ie just passing through on the T-Can - truckers and such) from local traffic wanting to access Vic Av E residential/commercial, it could lighten the stress and frustration for both.



Instead of building a whole new bypass road south-east of town, could they just create through-lanes on Vic Av E straight to the existing Hwy 1 bypass, separate from local lanes? Through-lanes sunken down the middle, and local ones along the sides, with intersections as bridges over the through-lanes.

An extreme example of that was envisioned (and thankfully not built) for Toronto's Spadina Expy in the city core, but maybe a simplified version would be feasible for suburban Vic Av E. If I remember right there are big ditches on either side of Vic Av E that could accommodate the necessary widening.


Photo: spacing.ca - way bigger and more extreme that what I'm thinking, but illustrates the concept

Speaking of extremes that can be abstracted to help understand something in Regina: Death of a city block. It's about the fall of middle-class neighbourhoods in Detroit; though extreme, there are some parallels with what's going on in North-Central Regina and how it can be turned around.
Thx for the nice photos, drove by there last nite with my parents, it's looking nice, and I'm still amazed of how they fit the building on the lot!!

Pretty much this idea is what I'm talking about, nice rendering. It's something like was designed for Glenmore Trail in Calgary (The GE5 project), except we have slightly more space. I can hopefully have a sketch-up rendering pretty soon, any idea what computer drawing program I can utilize, I don't have access to CADD or anything like that..

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Old Posted Apr 14, 2008, 8:25 PM
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Hopefully we will see some new ideas on Wednesday during the Downtown Plannning sessions.

Does anyone have more information on the St. Chad's? I saw the post but dont remember who mentioned it.
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I cannot find the exact term for the interchanges of McLeod Trail and Glenmore Trail, or a few of the interchanges along the Yellowhead in Edmonton but they have a single bridge, with a single intersection on top, all lanes converge there.
I'm not familiar with those specific interchanges, but it sounds like you're describing a "SPUI" (Single Point Urban Interchange).
     
     
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Hopefully we will see some new ideas on Wednesday during the Downtown Plannning sessions.

Does anyone have more information on the St. Chad's? I saw the post but dont remember who mentioned it.
It's becoming residential. The developer is West Dee.

You might be familiar with this project of theirs.

http://sk.athomecanada.com/listingA-4464.htm
     
     
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so? any news on these skyscrapers yer guys mayor was mubling about on the radio a while back?
     
     
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so? any news on these skyscrapers yer guys mayor was mubling about on the radio a while back?
Im sure someone here has got to have some news for us
     
     
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Regina is full of great artists. Look at Cathedral. Want some great art move there. Have you seen the side of Brandees or the four garage doors on 15th Ave. They are awesome. Also the Joe Fafard sculpture on the main floor of the Hill Tower 1. And its nice having some local art. Thats all i want to say!! Back to the discussion >
Sorry I worded that poorly. I realize we have great artists...I wasn't actually meaning to refer to those artists but rather to the "random graffiti" around the city...not the planned murials and what not. I would also like to see that wall covered with art. I was just thinking that the "gang graffiti" would find that spot too easily.
     
     
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I'm not familiar with those specific interchanges, but it sounds like you're describing a "SPUI" (Single Point Urban Interchange).
THANKS That sounds correct, here's a link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-point_urban_interchange
     
     
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Even with the bypass and interchanges included, it could not cost that much. If only half a billion dollars is being spent by our government to fix and construct over 1400 kilometers of road this year, it can not cost the same for the simple bypass even with interchanges! Ref



I suppose something could be fit in with the right amount of money and need. But this won't happen for a long time (no matter how optimistic you are). The bypass will still happen first (to get the heavy traffic off Vic East). I think this will be the right and least expensive move.



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Old Posted Apr 15, 2008, 2:23 AM
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Two things:

Broad Street Crossing Parking Lot looks worse than I anticipated.

Former Gingerz Bistro was being resided....it looks like a tool shed.
     
     
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