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Old Posted Apr 3, 2008, 2:21 PM
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I was hoping that they'd put the old sculpture back that stood in front of the old tower, but I guess times change.

It DOES look like huge blood cells though.

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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 11:57 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/nyregion/09freedom.html?ref=nyregion

Replicas of New Tower Endure Nature’s Fury and a Test Blast



A mock-up of the Freedom Tower at the World Trade Center, in Ontario, Calif., was built to be exposed to extreme conditions.



By DAVID W. DUNLAP
April 9, 2008

One World Trade Center has not yet emerged from below ground, but its facade has already survived earthquakes, hurricanes and an explosion that shook the earth a quarter-mile away.

In recent months, two full-size mock-ups of a few floors of the glass and aluminum facade have been built and tested. One is outside Los Angeles, in Ontario, Calif. The other was at a site in central New Mexico that can be reached only over dirt roads in four-wheel-drive vehicles.

At 1,368 feet, with 23 acres of glass-clad surface area, 1 World Trade Center will be subject to tremendous natural forces. The building, also known as the Freedom Tower (at a symbolic 1,776 feet, when its mast is counted), will be the tallest in New York City and as the skyscraping phoenix on the site of ground zero, it may be the target of terrorist attacks, too.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is building 1 World Trade Center, and Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, which designed it, said both mock-ups performed well. The facade, called a curtain wall, is being made by Benson Industries of Portland, Ore. The engineering firm Weidlinger Associates is the consultant in blast-resistant design.

“Physical testing is a confirmation that curtain-wall contractors are in fact meeting performance requirements,” said Carl Galioto, a Skidmore partner. “Full fabrication of the curtain wall cannot begin until the mock-up specimen passes these tests.”

Almost invisible to passers-by, the foundations of 1 World Trade Center are rising every day toward street level.

The first mock-up was subjected to a blast test in Socorro, N.M., at the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center, a division of the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. Because details might arm a prospective attacker — providing information like how much force the curtain wall is designed to withstand — officials would say almost nothing about the test of this mock-up.

“The simple answer is, yes, it passed,” said John McCullough, the project executive for the Port Authority.

He was more forthcoming about the tests last month at Construction Consulting Laboratory West in California. There, a $537,000 mock-up was built to represent a corner of three typical tower floors, with laminated glass panes one and a half inches thick. The largest are 5 feet by 13 feet and weigh half a ton. An enclosed steel chamber was constructed behind the glass and aluminum cladding.

The goal was to find out how much air and water leakage could be expected under storm conditions that could be expected at least once in 50 years.

Water jets simulating winds of 74 miles per hour were sprayed at the facade. During the 15-minute test cycle, each square foot of glass was hit with more than a gallon of water.

In another test, a dismounted airplane propeller was switched on to simulate even-stronger and more-scattered winds. “It’s pretty colorful,” said Mr. Galioto, who witnessed the test. “It’s very noisy. Water is blowing in every direction and smoke is blowing from the engine.”

Air infiltration is measured by gauges. Water infiltration is measured by witnesses who are inside the chamber.

“Water is coming into the face of the curtain wall with such intensity that you can’t see,” said Bruce Fox, the deputy project executive for the Port Authority. “Then you’re looking into and opening up all the different pieces to see if there’s any evidence of leakage.” There was none.

Hydraulic jacks were used to simulate the different horizontal sway of various floors, both fully occupied and empty. The surface was also chilled to 10 degrees (refrigerated piping was applied to the glass) and baked at 100 degrees (by heat lamps).

Gusts up to 167 m.p.h. were simulated by using pumps to pull air out of the chamber, creating a condition in which the external air pressure was far greater than the internal pressure. The process was reversed, too, by pumping air into the chamber, simulating conditions on the side of the tower away from the wind.

An earthquake was simulated by jacks pulling the mock-up in different directions. Finally, a much stronger earthquake was simulated. At this point, the designers no longer expected the mock-up to remain airtight and watertight. But the criteria required that no glass could crack and no panes could be dislodged.

Mr. McCullough of the Port Authority said the mock-up met all the performance criteria.


And Mr. Fox marveled: “Sometimes on these tests, you have to do forensics and do corrections. Here, we had no failure at all.”
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2008, 1:13 PM
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Awesome download here (Only for Windows User) :
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some news from Nydailynews at http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008...om_tower_to_open_observation_deck_o.html

Freedom Tower to open observation deck on 102nd floor
BY DOUGLAS FEIDEN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, April 10th 2008, 4:00 AM

Click photo for an aerial tour of the view from the proposed new Freedom Tower observation deck
Get ready to return to the Top of the World.
A new version of the observation deck atop the World Trade Center that beguiled lovers and tourists - and even jaded New Yorkers - will soon rise at the Freedom Tower.
The Port Authority said Wednesday it is seeking a world-class operator to design, build and manage the indoor deck on the 102nd floor of the 1,776-foot icon at Ground Zero.
Boasting eye-popping, heart-stopping, 360-degree panoramic views that stretch forever - or at least 50 miles on a clear day - the deck will be perched 1,300 feet above West St. on the tower's highest occupied floor.
The rebirth of New York's signature rooftop was announced as another key element of post-9/11 rebuilding fell into place: The Sept. 11 Memorial & Museum said yesterday it had reached its goal of raising $350million in funds from private donors.
A record $10 million corporate gift from Cantor Fitzgerald, the financial services firm that lost 658 workers in the terror attacks, put the museum over the top. It's now flush with donations from 60,000 people in all 50 states and 31 nations.
"We reached our fund-raising goal because of support from people across the country and around the world," said Mayor Bloomberg, who doubles as museum chairman.
The project, which will cost a total of $610 million, will also receive state and federal grants.
The twin announcements provided fresh momentum for a rebuilding drive that has been haunted by years of delays, funding shortfalls and interagency squabbling. Officials now say the museum will open in 2011 and the Freedom Tower in 2012.
Occupying 18,000 square feet, the tower'snew observation deck will be smaller than the 44,000-square-foot original on the 107th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center. Along with an open-air deck on the 110th floor, it drew 2 million visitors a year.
"It was a can't-miss stop," said PA Chairman Anthony Coscia. "We intend to recreate the same experience for future generations."
The bistate agency will issue a request for qualified developers early next month.
By June next year, an operator will be tapped, and the deck will open to the public three years later.
     
     
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OK, so you were not that fond of the twin towers, and you don't like this design, so what is your dream style of architecture? What style, do you think says "you can't keep us down"? Would you like twin 'Chrysler Buildings' or 'Empire State' type of buildings or what? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just curious as to what style, sends out the right message.
     
     
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Awesome download here (Only for Windows User) :
http://multimedia.nydailynews.com/misc/2008/04/10/wtc_view_from_observation_deck.EXE

some news from Nydailynews at http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008...om_tower_to_open_observation_deck_o.html

Freedom Tower to open observation deck on 102nd floor
BY DOUGLAS FEIDEN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, April 10th 2008, 4:00 AM

Click photo for an aerial tour of the view from the proposed new Freedom Tower observation deck
Get ready to return to the Top of the World.
A new version of the observation deck atop the World Trade Center that beguiled lovers and tourists - and even jaded New Yorkers - will soon rise at the Freedom Tower.
The Port Authority said Wednesday it is seeking a world-class operator to design, build and manage the indoor deck on the 102nd floor of the 1,776-foot icon at Ground Zero.
Boasting eye-popping, heart-stopping, 360-degree panoramic views that stretch forever - or at least 50 miles on a clear day - the deck will be perched 1,300 feet above West St. on the tower's highest occupied floor.
The rebirth of New York's signature rooftop was announced as another key element of post-9/11 rebuilding fell into place: The Sept. 11 Memorial & Museum said yesterday it had reached its goal of raising $350million in funds from private donors.
A record $10 million corporate gift from Cantor Fitzgerald, the financial services firm that lost 658 workers in the terror attacks, put the museum over the top. It's now flush with donations from 60,000 people in all 50 states and 31 nations.
"We reached our fund-raising goal because of support from people across the country and around the world," said Mayor Bloomberg, who doubles as museum chairman.
The project, which will cost a total of $610 million, will also receive state and federal grants.
The twin announcements provided fresh momentum for a rebuilding drive that has been haunted by years of delays, funding shortfalls and interagency squabbling. Officials now say the museum will open in 2011 and the Freedom Tower in 2012.
Occupying 18,000 square feet, the tower'snew observation deck will be smaller than the 44,000-square-foot original on the 107th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center. Along with an open-air deck on the 110th floor, it drew 2 million visitors a year.
"It was a can't-miss stop," said PA Chairman Anthony Coscia. "We intend to recreate the same experience for future generations."
The bistate agency will issue a request for qualified developers early next month.
By June next year, an operator will be tapped, and the deck will open to the public three years later.
You gotta put this in the pic thread!!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2008, 8:05 PM
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/04102008/news/regionalnews/freedom_tower_on_deck_105795.htm

FREEDOM TOWER ON DECK

By TOM TOPOUSIS
April 10, 2008

Talk about a room with a view.

The Freedom Tower's observation deck - 1,300 feet in the sky - will soon go on the market as the Port Authority launches a search for an operator.

With views stretching more than 50 miles, the glass enclosed deck on the 102nd floor is expected to become a major tourist attraction when it opens in 2011.

Officials will first issue a request for qualifications from potential operators. The firms that pass muster will be able to file detailed proposals later this year.

"We have begun our planning now for what will be at the very top of the building, knowing that it will once again become a world-class place that will be part of the New York experience for millions of tourists," said PA executive director Anthony Shorris.
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http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/on-a-clear-day-you-can-see-connecticut/?hp

On a Clear Day, You Can See Connecticut



The scene atop and from the observation deck of the World Trade Center in May 1999.

By David W. Dunlap
April 9, 2008


With the Freedom Tower headed steadily skyward (though not yet in view of sidewalk superintendents), the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is looking ahead to the moment when the public will want a slice of that sky.

It said Wednesday that it has begun searching for a private operator for the observation area planned on the 102nd floor of the tower, also known as 1 World Trade Center. Early next month, the authority will ask prospective candidates for their qualifications. Qualified bidders will be asked to submit proposals at the end of 2008. A firm will be chosen in early 2009. The observation area is expected to open in 2012.

At 1,300 feet above street level, the new observation area will be about 10 feet lower than the one atop the south tower of the original trade center. The new observation area will be about half the size and will not include an outdoor deck. Ogden Corporation operated the old observation deck under a lease from the Port Authority.

“The observation deck that sat atop 2 World Trade Center prior to 9/11 was a can’t-miss stop for those who lived and worked in Lower Manhattan, as well as two million tourists who visited each year, generating business for local merchants and others,” Anthony R. Coscia, the chairman of the authority, said in a statement. “We intend to recreate the same experience for future generations.”

Anthony E. Shorris, the executive director of the authority, said the observation deck was also intended to help make the tower “an open, lively public space integrated with the rest of the city.”

In the first step of its search for a restaurant operator at the top of the Freedom Tower in January, the Port Authority received 11 responses.
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Great to see this thing finally moving along well !!!
     
     
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I think the Freedom tower has more of an attractive shape, and more symbolism, that's all. ...
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That Mock Up Section Of The Facade Looks Awesome!!!!
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^^I gotta agree with the above post, the mock-up facade makes me all giddy and stuff. There's something about that color of glass facade, even though NY already has a bunch of those U/C.
     
     
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MUST we get on this topic again?

I'm going to back on topic and say the facade section looks AMAZING!

Very glossy and elegant. It's going to look amazing on the real thing. Gah!! Watching this is so riveting. xD

Even though it's like watching paint dry...but it's exciting nonetheless.
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I would have to say that this tower will suit the NY skyline just fine. I always thought the old WTC was out of place, 2 big boxes in a field of spires. JMO
     
     
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The mockup looks great! I'm excited to see the result!

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There's nothing wrong with the Freedom Tower, and those who think so are just as stupid as you seem to think I am.
WOW. Thats so overly rediculous, I'm sorry but isnt this a discussion fourm where people have the right to discuss their opinions?

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I would have to say that this tower will suit the NY skyline just fine. I always thought the old WTC was out of place, 2 big boxes in a field of spires. JMO
Wow... how could you ever say something like that!?!?

Okay, the old WTC was freakin HUUUGE and it clearly made an intergalatic impact on the downtown...nah...the whole city skyline, which could be defined as 'out of place' - but their mass and impact made the skyline
even more recognizable and distinctive. Just because of the difference
to the surrounding spires (don't forget a lot of boxes, too) and did I mention
sheer MASS IMPACT the WTC really WAS Downtown.

It just can't be faulted.


But that's all gone today and the future WTC isn't too bad, right?

Now, let's get back watching paint dry. (Webcam )
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On a Clear Day, You Can See Connecticut



The scene atop and from the observation deck of the World Trade Center in May 1999.

By David W. Dunlap
April 9, 2008


At 1,300 feet above street level, the new observation area will be about 10 feet lower than the one atop the south tower of the original trade center. The new observation area will be about half the size and will not include an outdoor deck. Ogden Corporation operated the old observation deck under a lease from the Port Authority.

“The observation deck that sat atop 2 World Trade Center prior to 9/11 was a can’t-miss stop for those who lived and worked in Lower Manhattan, as well as two million tourists who visited each year, generating business for local merchants and others,” Anthony R. Coscia, the chairman of the authority, said in a statement. “We intend to recreate the same experience for future generations.”
Damn, I was really hoping eventually they would see the light and somehow create an outdoor deck around the base of the spire. THAT would have recreated "the same experience for future generations" like I enjoyed as a kid.
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MUST we get on this topic again?
Again I'm a little confused, this is a discussion fourm, and this is a discussion about the Freedom Tower. Although what is "on topic" I mean people are voicing their opinions on the Freedom Tower. I mean what do we go back to? Talking about "OMG BIG NEWS: Single Freedom Tower Steel Column being shipped to NYC! Placement at WTC site expected 6 months."

I agree, the Freedom Tower and the rest of the WTC is a monumental failure in todays world. Its the 21st Century, buildings rise fast, and in todays terms, the Freedom Tower is pretty much a mild construction project. Why it has taken 2 years to not even rise above ground yet is rediculous. The nearby Goldman Sachs Tower commenced in 2005 and is nearly topped off, while the Freedom Tower still sits and slowly slowly rises.

The Desgin is not bad at all, its a very nice building, but the base just shows fear, its terrible. Hopefully it will maybe come out better overall. But really the building is nice and works well with New York, the problem is that the others do not. Being all designed by different architects the towers dont work together rather work against each other for attention. Another thing we will sorely miss is our beloved Twin Towers. The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center where such an icon to the USA and not rebuilding them is such a shame. I would have loved to see two Freedom Towers, one with a spire/antenna, the other without it, instead an outdoor observation deck.
     
     
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I was saying that it seems the only topic ever discussed here is "I hate the Freedom Tower" and I was only saying...agh, nevermind.

In my opinion, I think 2 FT's wouldn't look very good. I do, however, think that 2 other designs might look better together. Maybe not the Freedom Tower's design as it is today, but maybe something a bit more plain, so it wouldn't be so huge and overdramatic (cough...Dubai)

The twins were plain as anything by themselves, but when you put them together to form 2 megalithic twin towers, there was something elegant and truly left someone in awe about them.

But I like the Freedom Tower.

Think of it this way; The Freedom Tower's current design, or the Freedom Tower's design a couple years ago that made it look like a half-collapsed pile of rubble and sewage.

Anyways...
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Wow... how could you ever say something like that!?!?
In response to my comment that the old WTC were 2 big out of place boxes.

On the subject of the old WTC being a monstrosity, hard to swallow. But interesting.


Though this may be hard for some to believe, especially in these sentimental times, the so-called Twin Towers at the World Trade Center were hated by many New Yorkers, who before September 11, 2001 would have been happy if the goddamned things had never been built and after September 11th are glad that they're gone. An entire neighborhood was emptied out and destroyed to make way for them. Them -- not just one spectacular tower, but two. And this in a city known for singularities and differences, not repetitions and resemblances! Those weirdly self-referential monoliths completely blocked the sunlight from getting through; they blocked the view of the sun setting over New Jersey. Their reflective, steel-belted surfaces played havoc with radio and TV broadcasts, which meant that broadcasters were forced to move their transmitters (they had little choice but to put the transmitters atop one of the towers). Unlike the modestly tall buildings at Rockefeller Center, which are surrounded by an "extroverted" or open space through which pedestrian traffic can move freely, the freakishly tall Twin Towers were surrounded by a blank, abstract space that was "introverted" and closed off. Fully twice the size of the buildings around them, the towers were in fact so excessively large that the only place one could escape them and see New York City's famous skyline without distraction was on top of one of them!

Built for an enormous amount of money between 1966 and 1970 by the Port Authority of the State of New York, the Twin Towers were intended to house in one complex a great many foreign financial institutions and to provide everything that their managers, employees and clients might need (hotels, restaurants, shops, movie theaters, etc. etc). Despite the novelty of being the tallest buildings in the world -- a distinction that only lasted until 1976, when the Sears Tower was built in Chicago -- the Twin Towers were always money-losers as rental properties and required huge subsidies (tens of millions of dollars a year) from the State of New York to remain solvent. Because all of the windows in both towers were sealed up tight, and because neither tower was equipped to take advantage of its unique potential to generate power using the wind or solar energy, the WTC complex was ludicrously costly to heat and light. Furthermore, visiting business men and women weren't satisfied to remain within the WTC's purportedly self-sufficient universe, and wished to venture (and shop and do business) outside of it. In the 1980s, advances in information and telecommunication technologies decentralized the financial markets, which in turn "rolled back" the necessity for foreign institutions to be in close physical proximity to each other, Wall Street and the rest of lower Manhattan, which is precisely what the gigantic size and centralized location of the Twin Towers were intended to provide.

In New York City, obsolete buildings are infrequently saved, whatever their historical or architectural interest. Most often, they are simply torn down and replaced. The only thing that saved the Twin Towers from demolition was the fact that they were filled with asbestos, which would be released into the air if the buildings were destroyed by controlled explosions. In 2000, the Port Authority calculated that it would cost $1 billion -- i.e., much more money than the Port Authority could afford to spend -- to remove the asbestos before the buildings were destroyed. And so the Port Authority was stuck with the Twin Towers, that is, until 26 April 2001, when it found a consortium of business interests (Westfield America, led by Larry Silverstein, the owner of the building at 7 World Trade Center) that was willing to lease the property. Supposed to last for 99 years, the $3.2 billion lease mandated that the Port Authority continue to pay taxes on the property. "This is a dream come true," Silverstein said at the 23 July 2001 celebration of the lease's signing. "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights."

And so, quite paradoxically, the mass-murdering hijackers who destroyed the Twin Towers by flying fully fueled passenger airplanes into them did Westfield America an immense favor. Even though Westfield America would obviously have preferred that both the planes and the buildings were unoccupied (save for the hijackers themselves) at the time that the former were used to destroy the latter, the terrorists got rid of the towers quickly, efficiently -- the towers fell down instead of over -- and in such a way that Westfield America didn't have to pay for any of it, including the asbestos, which was "removed" from the site by the wind, the rain and the search-and-rescue teams employed by the City of New York in the months after the buildings exploded, collapsed and gave off thick clouds of toxic dust.

From: http://www.notbored.org/wtc.html

Anyway...I DO like the new one.
     
     
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