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Old Posted Mar 29, 2008, 4:50 PM
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I am beginning to wonder which city I will end up living in, Huntsville, Madison, Decatur, or Athens. Huntsville and Madison seem to want as much of Limestone County as they can get, Athens doesn't like it, tries to get a bill passed to stop it, unless approved by the County Commission, fails at that, and then doesn't seem to care about annexing land, solely just to protect its own borders. And now that Bass Pro Shops is coming, I guess Decatur will be making a move on annexing land here too.
I live just off of Mooreville Road, north of US. 72, and Huntsville is only about 5 miles away from us. For now! I personally believe that the developers are building way too many homes for the BRAC folks, and I have only met one person that has moved here because of BRAC. Granted, I know that there are more here already, and that there are more coming, but it sure looks like the builders have overbuilt. I am rapidly being surrounded by new subdivisions. For example, since we moved here in 1999, there have been over 60 new subdivisions built in Limestone County, and that is just those east of I-65. There are 11 new subdivisions on Mooresville Road, between Huntsville / Brownsferry Rd., and Nick Davis Rd. There are 7 or 8 more on Newby Rd., between Huntsville / Brownsferry RD and US. 72. All of these are less than 5 years old, and while some are practically full, all but two are filling up fast. And those two new subdivisions were built just last summer.
Perhaps, it is time that the surrounding cities start building up, not out. One of the local farmers ( Isom's Orchard ) has their fruit trees backing up to another new subdivision, and I have heard that he is being sued by some of the neighbors because of the noise, and the pesticides that are necessary in his line of work. He even has trees planted to act as a buffer zone, but apparently that doesn't matter.
Now we all know that Isom's has been around for quite some time, and the subdivision has not. You would think that these people would think that "hey, I am buying a house right next to an orchard. There will be noise, and they will spray pesticides to kill crop destroying insects. Maybe, it would be bettter to live somewhere else, so that we don't have to deal with those problems". The crazy thing about this is, these same people will probably get in their cars, drive over to Isom's and buy their peaches, apples, etc. and not realize that they want what Isom's has to offer on fruit, but they don't want to deal with the noise and pesticides. Well, you can't have one without the other.
Another problem I see is, how are all of these people going to get to work. US. 72 desperately needs to be widened from Athens, all the way to Rideout Rd. / Research Park Blvd. US. 72 was not built with consistent grades. The Eastbound Lanes are higher in some places and lower in others, when compared to the Westbound Lanes. Whenever the State and the Feds decide to upgrade the highway, lanes will have to be blocked off in order to do the work. We might as well get ready to sit in a parking lot, because that is what it will be. I think that Capshaw / Old Monrovia should be widened first ( Nick Davis, and Huntsville / Brownsferry Rd.too ), just to accomodate all of this extra traffic that will come when US. 72 does get widened, but as far as I know, there are no plans for this to happen. And as land gets developed, the cost to widen roads goes up greatly, due to having to buy the ROW, and the homes and businesses that are on the ROW. Also, utilities have to be moved, again adding to the cost.
I think we had better get started on the roads, now!!!

Regards, Colin
Currently an ALDOT employee working in Moulton, AL.
Can you help convince your fellow ALDOT officials of the urgency of road projects in Huntsville? They don't seem to understand.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2008, 6:19 AM
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I wish I could, but I am just a lowly peon.

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Old Posted Mar 31, 2008, 8:02 PM
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at least 8 years later, they are kicking and screaming toward starting this

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Huntsville-Browns Ferry Road in east Limestone County has gotten a lot of attention lately with annexations by Madison and Huntsville on or near the road.

Officials in both cities cite growth and development probabilities for the newly-annexed areas.

The area is expected to become more attractive for development when the state builds an interchange at Interstate 65 and Huntsville-Browns Ferry Road near Tanner.

Work on the interchange should start soon, after the Alabama Department of Transportation opened construction bids Friday during its monthly bid openings for projects across the state.

Carcel & G Construction, LLC, of Cullman submitted the apparent low bid of nine bids the state received. Carcel submitted a bid of close to $5.8 million. The next lowest bid was almost $6.2 million from Reed Contracting Services Inc. of Union Grove.

Once the state awards a contract and work begins, it should take about two years to build the interchange.

The Tanner interchange, which would be the only interchange on I-65 between Interstate 565 and U.S. 72 in Athens, would be about nine miles west of County Line Road.
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Angry The Old Madison Pike Funnel

I hope the BRAC folks get to experience end of work day traffic in the Old Madison Pike Funnel before they decide to move to the Madison area. This road is ridiculous.
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Newks, this is a popular up and coming chain out of Oxford MS.
They are locating in the old Jade Palace.
http://www.newkscafe.com/home.asp

Newk's Express Cafe is remodeling a building on University Drive in Huntsville, with plans to open in early summer.
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From a report on WAFF

Scott Mclain is a partner in Constellation LLC, the development company re-developing the site where the Heart of Huntsville mall once stood, in downtown Huntsville.

Mclain says a complaint he often hears about Huntsville is that there's really nothing to do.

"What we want to do is have maybe a dozen places where there are things to do, restaurants, bars, places that play music," says Mclain.

Right now plans include two hotels facing north, about a dozen restaurants scattered throughout, even a residential area, but considering our economy will all this business be a boom or a bust?

Other developments that included condominiums in the city have fell through.

But outside of prices, Mclain says there are other reasons this project will stick.

"Location, location, location."

"If you count all the cars, there are more people that drive in their car past this site than there are in the city," says Mclain.

Between the Embassy Suites, Holiday Inn, and new hotels there will be roughly 900 rooms for in-coming outsiders.
"Fortunately this is a mixed used development, we'll have office, hotel, residential, and restaurant," adds Mclain.

There will be some more groundbreaking ceremonies in the next few weeks.

The next piece of construction is Constellation Drive which will run from Heart of Huntsville drive to Memorial Parkway.
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Newks, this is a popular up and coming chain out of Oxford MS.
They are locating in the old Jade Palace.
http://www.newkscafe.com/home.asp

Newk's Express Cafe is remodeling a building on University Drive in Huntsville, with plans to open in early summer.

Newk`s has been in the Mobile and B-ham area for the last 1 1/2 years I believe it`s a great place.
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I been patiently waiting to hear what's the what on constellation....this guy is really thinking on the right track.
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Nice downtown springtime pic with the cherry trees in bloom


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Downtown restaurant opens
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The Phoenix Bistro opens today on Fountain Circle near the EarlyWorks museum. It takes over where a similar restaurant called Chef Green's on Fountain recently closed.

Owners of The Phoenix are Mary Katherine Honeycutt, Jennifer Jean and Ghada Al-Mahdi. Their team includes the nucleus of Chef Green's staff. The new restaurant comes less than a month after its predecessor closed.

"We've retained the excellent sous chefs," says Honeycutt. "I am humbled at how these young men and women can put their minds together to make this happen so quickly."

The chefs for The Phoenix are Lamont Wright and Willie Langford. Co-owners Jean and Al-Mahdi have been involved in the old restaurant from its beginning.


The Phoenix will serve lunch Tuesday through Friday and dinner Thursday through Saturday with a menu that changes regularly. Entrees will include such specialties as macadamia-crusted mahi-mahi, ribeye with bleu cheese and crab cakes.

The interior has been slightly redecorated and refurbished. Two Bible verses important to the owners are framed on one wall: Genesis 50:20 and Matthew 7: 7-8.
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Since it's planting time

Huntsville's Urban Forestry link


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Question A Green Home

I found the article below interesting in how we define environmental consciousness in America. I would hardly call a 4200 square feet home friendly to the environment regardless of all the energy savers. On top of that I suspect the owners are working in Huntsville and driving from Ardmore each day using precious fossil fuel. We have a long way to go in understanding how to conserve our natural resources.


A real green house
Saturday, April 05, 2008
By YVONNE BETOWT
Times Staff Writer [email protected]

Enviro-conscious building choices save money in long run

Like most people, Bruce and Marie Webb wanted their dream home to be something special. On the outside, their 4,200-square-foot, two-story, Federal-style, home on 21 acres just south of Ardmore looks normal.

But on the inside, it follows a trend of new homes that are environmentally friendly and, in the long run, moneysavers for their owners.

The National Association of Home Builders is behind the eco-friendly movement, and the Webbs' builder, Southern Construction and Design, owned by John Allen and Bob Goff, will soon be certified in the Green Building Program.

"We wanted to incorporate some green features in the house," said Webb, an engineer with SIAC and a Scottsboro native. "We tried to include as many as possible in the budget that would provide the most benefit in the shortest amount of time."

The house has 11-inch thick insulating concrete form (ICF) poured walls by Eco-Block, compared to most homes with four-inch thick wood frame walls. The amount of concrete used for the wall system was around 100 square yards.

"The ICF cost ranges from about 5 to 7 percent more up front, but you have between 40 (percent) and 50 percent less energy use throughout the life of your home than standard construction," said Allen.

It also has an advantage over wood-framed houses because it can withstand wind, fire and termites.

"Insulating Concrete Forms are hollow blocks or panels made of EPS (expanded polystyrene) plastic foam that construction crews stack into the shape of the exterior walls of a residential or commercial building," according to the Eco-block Web site (www.eco-block.com). Workers then add reinforcing steel and fill the gap (typically 4-8 inches) between the two layers of foam with concrete, which cures and hardens into a monolithic core. The foam panel stays in place. This combination of concrete, steel and foam creates an incredibly strong and energy-efficient structure."

In addition to many of the eco-friendly aspects of the house, the Webbs, who are in their 40s, also included a storm shelter (basically a large hidden closet) on the south side of the house to provide a safe place for them and their dog during severe weather.

"It was a little difficult trying to figure out the best place for it, but we finally figured it out and it looks pretty good," said Webb, a graduate of the University of Alabama in Huntsville. Marie, a native of Philadelphia, works on the arsenal and is a graduate of the University of Scranton.

The attic has R-41 insulation which is a bio-based spray foam, water- and soy-based that was sprayed on the roof truss rafters and completely seals the attic space. Most houses built today use R-30 insulation.

The Webbs' house also has a pair of two-ton, geo-thermal heating and cooling units with a vertical bore geothermal loop. There is one 300-foot bore hole for each two-ton system.

Geothermal, which means earth heat, is the use of the fairly constant temperature of the ground or water a few feet below the Earth's surface as source of heating and cooling.

The house's location was also considered in making it eco-friendly. It faces east, with several pine trees in the back yard to block the afternoon sun.

Unlike the Webbs, Allen said few people rarely think green when planning to build a house. But he said the construction industry must make "a paradigm shift" to encourage people to consider being more eco-friendly when constructing a home.

"People never think much about energy when building," said Allen. "They mostly think about the principal costs of the mortgage and insurance. But the big variable is the utility rate. This is the way to lock in a drastic reduction quickly of your current and future energy costs, which will continue to rise."

Allen recently attended the International Building Show in Orlando that drew more than 92,000 builders from around the world. The National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) held its first Green Day at the show to demonstrate all the eco-friendly materials in the building industry. It included green education seminars and officially kicked off the NAHB National Green Building Program and the Certified Green Professional designation.

"The National Association of Home Builders is encouraging builders to go green," said Allen. "The green drumbeat is starting to roll. It's all consumer driven because people are starting to look more at energy costs than anything else."

The Webbs, who live in Madison, had never built a house until now. But they did their homework to find as many energy-efficient measures they could for their home before embarking on building it last July. They hope to move in the next few weeks.

"We considered solar heating, but it was very expensive up front," said Webb. "The geo-thermal system was fairly expensive up front, but we felt we could get a quicker return for our money with it. We spent between 10 (percent) to 15 percent more up front for everything, but the ICF walls and foam spray will pay off in about two years and the geothermal system will pay off between five and 10 years."

The Webbs chose the dual pane Marvin windows, which are low emissivity and energy efficient, said Allen. The house has 32 windows, most 3 feet by six feet, at a cost of between $500 and $600 per window.

"The cost is recouped in the energy it saves," said Penn Dilworth, a sales representative for Marvin windows. "The argon molecules in the windows reduce the heat, cold and sound transmissions. You lose only about 1 percent of the argon in a year because it leaks out slowly."

Another green aspect of the house is the hot water generator which preheats the water to the on-demand gas water heater, reducing the amount of energy used before it becomes hot from the faucet.

The Webbs have also incorporated an irrigation system, Xeriscape, which collects and saves rainwater in an underground tank to water the lawn.
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I found the article below interesting in how we define environmental consciousness in America. I would hardly call a 4200 square feet home friendly to the environment regardless of all the energy savers. On top of that I suspect the owners are working in Huntsville and driving from Ardmore each day using precious fossil fuel. We have a long way to go in understanding how to conserve our natural resources.
i couldn't agree more. it sounds like these people are more "wallet conscious" than "environmentally conscious", but i guess that's what it takes for some people to change. but who knows, maybe they drive hybrids
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Plans for more city parks..

By JOHN PECK
Times Staff Writer [email protected]
Cost-cutting ideas include using own workers to build

Huntsville leaders are mapping out a plan for new city parks that emphasizes land donations and using city workers to limit building costs.

Mayor Loretta Spencer met with city Parks and Recreation Director Greg Patterson, Public Works Director Steve Abbott and several other department heads late last week to discuss park needs.

Several large tracts of land have been secured already for neighborhood parks. Land for yet another is being sought in the bustling Hampton Cove area.

The sites include:

62 acres bought for $1.29 million in 2005 on the southwest corner of Capshaw Road and Wall Triana Highway. Officials say that will one day be a regional city park when enough development occurs.

A 30-acre site donated by land developer Louis Breland west of Zierdt Road near Old Jim Williams and Martin roads.

A 30-acre site in the Greenbrier area of Limestone County that the city has committed to buy for $300,000. The Greenbrier site is part of a recent annexation agreement required by the Albert McDonald family, which donated an adjacent 30 acres for a school.

Spencer said Friday that city officials are aggressively looking for land in the Taylor Road area to relieve overcrowding at Cove Park in Hampton Cove. In early 2000, Cove became the last city park to open. Spencer said she's been talking with several large landowners in the Taylor Road area about donating the land.
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Five Points/Downtown Streetscape plan ready to begin?

hopefully it is, this will be the 1st phase of extensive makeover of this historic
district streets. Pratt Ave to beyond Russell will see extensive landscaping,
with new stamped colored concrete cobblestone sidewalks, trees, benches, underground utilities and decorative lighting. It will create/re-establish a very walkable, pedestrian friendly environment. This is all along Star Market/Sazio/
Hardees etc . There will be some removal of Dogwood trees on Pratt but they will be relocated to nearby Coleman St.
At one time the old trolley rails that are under the street were going to be re-established but tripping hazards and basic costs prevented this.
This project is now underway, will really be an improvement, some trees had to be removed but at least a dozen will be planted. Completion should be by
October.
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Construction is moving along on new restaurants at the airport

The airport is adding a grab-and-go concession operation to the terminal area. Among the coming options for passengers: a Gevalia coffee outlet, McAlister’s Deli, Breyer’s ice cream and Arrezzio Italian-style pizza.

A new and expanded bar is also under construction, as is a new restaurant for the in-terminal Sheraton Four Points Hotel.
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ALDOT playing games, of course they want someone else to build it.
Hey how about this study.. the road has been planned for 15 years, money has been allocated by Congress every year, why not start building it?
Built in job security must be great for ALDOT directors.

"State highway officials should know this fall if Huntsville's so-called Southern Bypass makes financial sense as a toll road, a move that could mean motorists get to drive on it years earlier than otherwise.

State Highway Director Joe McInnes said in Huntsville Tuesday that a traffic study is due this fall. If traffic projections support a toll road, he said "a lot of private investors want to come in and build it."
The road, called Patriot Parkway, will connect Interstate 565 at Research Park Boulevard to south Huntsville near the Tennessee River. Its cost is now pegged as high as $400 million.

Waiting for state funding would mean long delays in the new road, McInnes said. A toll road would be much quicker."
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ALDOT playing games, of course they want someone else to build it.
Hey how about this study.. the road has been planned for 15 years, money has been allocated by Congress every year, why not start building it?
Built in job security must be great for ALDOT directors.

"State highway officials should know this fall if Huntsville's so-called Southern Bypass makes financial sense as a toll road, a move that could mean motorists get to drive on it years earlier than otherwise.

State Highway Director Joe McInnes said in Huntsville Tuesday that a traffic study is due this fall. If traffic projections support a toll road, he said "a lot of private investors want to come in and build it."
The road, called Patriot Parkway, will connect Interstate 565 at Research Park Boulevard to south Huntsville near the Tennessee River. Its cost is now pegged as high as $400 million.

Waiting for state funding would mean long delays in the new road, McInnes said. A toll road would be much quicker."
Good. I'm all for a toll road. Would the booths at the Arsenal exits be staffed by MPs, NASA Police, and Toll Collectors or would it all be electronic for transponders and guard shacks for visual examinations only?
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