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I feel Like SJ had an opportunity to put something interesting on the Regional Hospital land. Instead there lies a generic office space/call centre that all passerbys coming in/out of the city must see. Maybe there's still space? It's a pretty prminent piece of land.
I believe you are referring to the former General Hospital site/location which now is home to HRDC. I took note this past week that the building just below HRDC (former Drake building) - which was constructed around the same time the HRDC building was - currently has a "for sale" sign on it. I try not to think about the old General Hospital land and what sits there now. It makes me sick.
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I believe you are referring to the former General Hospital site/location which now is home to HRDC. I took note this past week that the building just below HRDC (former Drake building) - which was constructed around the same time the HRDC building was - currently has a "for sale" sign on it. I try not to think about the old General Hospital land and what sits there now. It makes me sick.
I can never hear about the General Hospital without thinking about how close it came to history in 1937 when the Hindenburg passed it on the way to New York

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[QUOTE=random11;3467279]I believe you are referring to the former General Hospital site/location which now is home to HRDC. I took note this past week that the building just below HRDC (former Drake building) - which was constructed around the same time the HRDC building was - currently has a "for sale" sign on it. I try not to think about the old General Hospital land and what sits there now. It makes me sick.

Oops, I meant General--my bad. It would nice to see a building of significance on a portion of that land. I know there'a a nice view from up top and imagine people would live there if opportunity became available.
The General used to look pretty cool perched up there.
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Hi everyone,

I have decided to make a little pilgrimage back to my hometown of Saint John and since I left when I was really young I really lack any distinct knowledge of the culture and city life. I am planning on coming in late May. I have done some searching and found that to my knowledge there are no Hostels, so at this point I plan on camping. First question: Are there any good camping options close to the city, or any cheap accomodations anywhere? I want to hang out in the city but not pay standard hotel prices and I am very unpicky. Secondly, is there a website or forum or any place of information where I can find out about the Saint John music scene? I'd like to see some local bands... "indie" is i guess the best way to describe what I am looking for. I also ask because I would also like to play some music while I am around. Are there any bars that offer open mic that anyone knows of?

Also if you have any info about Digby, are there many places to camp there? Is there anything to do there? and lastly, the ferry - any idea how many times it leaves a day in May?

thanks in advance - I may have more questions if you don't mind.
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Hi everyone,

I have decided to make a little pilgrimage back to my hometown of Saint John and since I left when I was really young I really lack any distinct knowledge of the culture and city life. I am planning on coming in late May. I have done some searching and found that to my knowledge there are no Hostels, so at this point I plan on camping. First question: Are there any good camping options close to the city, or any cheap accomodations anywhere? I want to hang out in the city but not pay standard hotel prices and I am very unpicky. Secondly, is there a website or forum or any place of information where I can find out about the Saint John music scene? I'd like to see some local bands... "indie" is i guess the best way to describe what I am looking for. I also ask because I would also like to play some music while I am around. Are there any bars that offer open mic that anyone knows of?

Also if you have any info about Digby, are there many places to camp there? Is there anything to do there? and lastly, the ferry - any idea how many times it leaves a day in May?

thanks in advance - I may have more questions if you don't mind.
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The website for the ferry to digby is www.nfl-bay.com, with all the schedules,
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"The NB museum chose Diamond +Schmitt, which has won more than 100 national and international awards for planning and design, from among 12 competitors. Jack Diamond, who led the team for Toronto's new Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts, will serve as the principal in charge, with Michael Leckman as project architect. Leckman was design director for the University of Toronto's Bahen Centre and the Medicine Hat Arts and Heritage Centre. "We were really impressed by the firm's ability to present international architecture in an environment that speaks to New Brunswick," says Jane Fullerton, the museum's director. "The waterfront will be a key part of that."

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As a public institution you would think that the museum would have at least released the design proposals for public viewing prior to making a decision, but apparently that's not how the museum operates. With such a secretive planning process is it any wonder that "every time Saint John gets a new building, there are always a large number of people complaining that it could have been built with better architecture, but no one seems to be vocal about it during the planning stages." I guess the officials at the NB Museum feel that the little people of Saint John should respect the museum director's ability to make the decisions for the them.

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First question: Are there any good camping options close to the city, or any cheap accomodations anywhere? I want to hang out in the city but not pay standard hotel prices and I am very unpicky.
Rockwood park is just outside the core of the city. I've never camped there myself but it is certainy close (about 4km to uptown).
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TELEGRAPH-JOURNAL
Published Monday April 7th, 2008
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SAINT JOHN - You can't always get what you want.

The city's top money man says it would be irresponsible for council to move forward with every one of the $221 million in projects it has on its radar, and he hopes the next council will quickly map out its exact priorities so that it can be decided which projects should get the immediate go ahead and which shouldn't.

Commissioner of finance Greg Yeomans says he hopes the new council and staff will "sit down and have a session where you list the priorities and their estimated costs. It's like anybody. I'd love to have a really fancy sports car, but I can afford a Honda Accord." While stressing that the final decision would be council's alone, he said he has meant to float the idea for the last several council meetings, but hasn't had the opportunity because of long agendas that keep pushing items back.

The city's projections have it borrowing $221 million if it moved forward with every hoped-for project from now until the end of 2012. Those projects include the police-parking development north of Union Street, renovations to the Saint John Trade and Convention Centre, a Canada Games Stadium retrofit, work on the Rockwood Park entrance at Lily Lake, Water Street reconstruction, work at the Coast Guard site, the continued expansion of Harbour Passage (especially west), Partridge Island work, and the new Saint John Transit facility. Harbour cleanup and new water filtration plants are also to be built, though those are paid for through water and sewerage bills, not property bills.

Other capital spending includes recurring costs like road work and city cars, and smaller items such as heritage and upper floor grants.

Yeomans says the city won't be able to do all the work, so the meeting can spell out exactly what council is willing to do.

"If you did all this, this is what it will cost," he said. "And you know what? We don't do all that. We can't do all that. It would be irresponsible."

This council set its priorities early with harbour cleanup and a new police station, but Yeomans - who didn't criticize the current council - said that was more of a 'philosophical' list, while he's looking for a list based more on finances.

Council asked the commissioner about the projects' effect on the tax rate last summer and he responded with a 'big picture' view that showed a potential 14-cent increase in the tax rate given a conservative economic outlook and council constructing everything it has planned. (The only projects that must go forward at the moment are the already underway harbour cleanup and the Saint John Transit building. Harbour cleanup is part of Saint John Water and separate from the $221-million figure.)

Coun. John Ferguson suggested late last year that the city consider lowering the tax rate, but the majority of council approved a budget that held the rate at $1.795 per $100 of assessment. Several councillors said the city had shown too little growth over the last 15 years and had to catch up before they could consider a tax cut. The budget passed 9-1, with Coun. Bill Farren voting against because of fears about the pension plan. Ferguson was absent.

The city's current debt is roughly $53 million, Yeomans said, and most city debts are dealt with over 15 to 20 years. The interest rates on that borrowing change every year, but Yeomans said that based on the past 20 years a $1-million loan has in reality cost $1.35 million.

The city's debt ratio - the percentage it spends on debt each year - is under control according to Yeomans and several outside experts contacted previously by the Telegraph-Journal. The city spends a little more than 10 cents on every dollar paying down debt, and that could rise to the 14 cent range in the next several years, Yeomans has projected.

The province doesn't like it if debt ratios approach 20 per cent, and city manager Terry Totten has said staff would likely warn council to slow down at about 18 per cent.

The bigger concern is the other end of the equation: the tax rate. The next council can raise taxes, which many people will complain about, or delay projects, which many people will complain about.

"I wouldn't want to have that job," Yeomans said.
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Hi everyone,

I have decided to make a little pilgrimage back to my hometown of Saint John and since I left when I was really young I really lack any distinct knowledge of the culture and city life. I am planning on coming in late May. I have done some searching and found that to my knowledge there are no Hostels, so at this point I plan on camping. First question: Are there any good camping options close to the city, or any cheap accomodations anywhere? I want to hang out in the city but not pay standard hotel prices and I am very unpicky. Secondly, is there a website or forum or any place of information where I can find out about the Saint John music scene? I'd like to see some local bands... "indie" is i guess the best way to describe what I am looking for. I also ask because I would also like to play some music while I am around. Are there any bars that offer open mic that anyone knows of?

Also if you have any info about Digby, are there many places to camp there? Is there anything to do there? and lastly, the ferry - any idea how many times it leaves a day in May?

thanks in advance - I may have more questions if you don't mind.
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Published Monday April 7th, 2008
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Beware of people who say you need to spend money to save money. This not only holds true for hucksters trying to peddle products, it also applies to your tax dollars.

Emboldened by modest growth and big talk, the City of Saint John is about to embark on its largest-ever spending spree. Officials say certain projects have to be built big to meet future needs. There's no talk of getting value for money; all that matters is growth at any cost.

The board of police commissioners wants to build a $20-million headquarters, but won't let the public see the station's interior designs. Nothing is set in stone, they promise.

Saint John Transit is well on its way to building a $22-million headquarters on the east side, with virtually no debate on common council as to the merits of its size or cost.

Saint John Water says $135.8 million is needed to deliver safe drinking water. To his credit, commissioner Paul Groody has suggested that water meters and a public-private partnership could lower up-front costs, but money is already being spent without these measures in place.

All told, the city wants to borrow $221 million over the next four years. Saint John's entire outstanding debt in 2007 was $103 million. Do officials really expect people to swallow that such heavy borrowing won't come back to haunt them?

Saint John has the biggest municipal operating budget in New Brunswick - $119 million. Yet every time assessments rise - which they have for the last four years - officials figure out a way to spend every last penny rather than lower the tax rate, still the highest in the province. Despite impressive growth, Saint Johners have been forced to pay more taxes for mediocre services. There's been little done to reduce operating expenses and get value for money.

Ordinary Saint Johners have not seen their salaries jump as rapidly as their tax assessments or the bills they pay.

Mayor Norm McFarlane said in his campaign kickoff he's convinced taxes are sustainable or could be lowered with an expanding tax base. He said something similar in the last election, and council promptly raised taxes after McFarlane talked to city manager Terry Totten about the city's base budget needs.

Every mayoral candidate - McFarlane, Deputy Mayor Michelle Hooton, councillors Ivan Court and John Ferguson, and Aliant employee Mike Richardson - needs to articulate how the city will pay for all these projects and what can be done to trim them.

It's also an excellent opportunity for every candidate running for a regular council seat this spring to take a stand against rampant borrowing.

It's too easy to say growth will cover it all. The city's finance commissioner, Greg Yeomans, predicted that even with an annual three per cent growth rate, the municipality would have to borrow so much it would cause an eight per cent increase in the tax rate over the next four years. You can bet both the rate and assessments will go up, a double whammy.

Rather than wait for new growth and money to pour in, the city is happy to spend taxpayers' hard-earned cash ahead of time.

Spending beyond one's means is never a good idea. Take a look at what's happening in the United States and all the people who took out mortgages when they couldn't afford the payments. The American economy is in a sinkhole because of the same mentality.

This doesn't mean Saint John should forgo improvements for safer drinking water, better roads and good policing. It's a call for frugality, thoughtful planning and value for money.

Politicians should prove the big projects have merit and explain in detail how they'll be funded with the best interests of taxpayers in mind.

That's not too much to ask when you're spending their money.

John Chilibeck is a Telegraph-Journal reporter. He writes about issues that affect the Saint John region. He can be reached at [email protected] or by calling 645-3267. His column appears on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
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Economy Premier to deliver first pay-back from 'Bay Street blitz'

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Published Monday April 7th, 2008
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Prudential Consulting Inc. of Toronto intends to bring 150 jobs to New Brunswick.

These will include 50 positions at a data centre in Saint John plus 100 home-based medical transcription jobs, said a government source who requested anonymity on Friday.

Prudential chief executive officer Vik Khurana is expected to announce the jobs at 10 a.m. this morning in the Red Room on the eighth floor of Saint John City Hall. Premier Shawn Graham, Mayor Norm McFarlane and cabinet minister and Saint John Harbour MLA Ed Doherty will join him.

Graham connected with the company when he and Business New Brunswick Minister Greg Byrne held a two-day "Bay Street blitz" in Toronto in February, the official said. They met more recently in Fredericton.

"This is proof that the government is aggressively working to attract new investment to the province, and it's also proof that our investment attraction efforts are working," the source said.

"We're being recognized by national and international companies, and they're choosing New Brunswick to set up their operations."

He did not know what salaries the jobs will draw, but said data centre jobs normally pay 'very good.'

The home-based jobs involve transcribing directions relayed on-line from medical doctors. "The doctor dictates, then somebody transcribes it on computer "¦ it's all over the internet, you listen to it through headphones, and you're typing."

People across the province should have a chance at these jobs, thanks to the province's communications network.

"A few jobs in a small community is extremely important, so this could be of great benefit to the entire province, not just to the city of Saint John," he said.

Prudential Consulting, founded in 1995, bills itself as a Canadian company with offices and 'collaborations' in the United States, the United Kingdom and India.

It employs more than 200 people specializing in information technology, health-care services and business process outsourcing.

The company's health information management platform combines dictation, speech recognition, transcription services, document scanning and electronic integration according to the PCI website.

It unifies health information into digital patient folders to help physicians and others make clinical decisions, according to the website. It also provides professional billing services.

"The new investment strategy is targeting health care and financial services sectors," the official said.

"New Brunswick really has quite a footprint on the financial services side," he said, citing several banks with data centres in New Brunswick.

Several economists say New Brunswick needs higher paying jobs to generate the tax revenue to meet the government's self-sufficiency agenda.

Call centres, for all the benefit New Brunswick draws from them, do not provide this level of income.

Data centres are another story, the source said.

"We are going after data centres," he said, describing them as "the engine of the company when it comes to computers."

The provincial government will provide financial support for PCI's move into New Brunswick, but details will have to wait until today. There will be no federal money.

The government is working on other leads from the Bay Street blitz, but the official had no details on Friday.
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the TJ does seem to be bashing projects that are set to improve the city, what I want to know is why
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Hi everyone,

I have decided to make a little pilgrimage back to my hometown of Saint John and since I left when I was really young I really lack any distinct knowledge of the culture and city life. I am planning on coming in late May. I have done some searching and found that to my knowledge there are no Hostels, so at this point I plan on camping. First question: Are there any good camping options close to the city, or any cheap accomodations anywhere? I want to hang out in the city but not pay standard hotel prices and I am very unpicky. Secondly, is there a website or forum or any place of information where I can find out about the Saint John music scene? I'd like to see some local bands... "indie" is i guess the best way to describe what I am looking for. I also ask because I would also like to play some music while I am around. Are there any bars that offer open mic that anyone knows of?

Also if you have any info about Digby, are there many places to camp there? Is there anything to do there? and lastly, the ferry - any idea how many times it leaves a day in May?

thanks in advance - I may have more questions if you don't mind.

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the TJ does seem to be bashing projects that are set to improve the city, what I want to know is why
Yeah I've been trying to figure it out as well. TJ = Irving and it is Irving who needs thousands of workers to come and build their new projects (like the refinery for example), so why would they be interested in limiting Saint John's ability to sustain a larger population through infrastructure upgrades?

On the other hand, I do agree with the calls for more transparency in municipal government operations, but I think if that is the TJ's main objective, they're going about it all wrong.

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I'm not sure about this. As a Saint Johner, I want the city to spend a bit extra if it means we'll get world-class water quality instead of the woefully out-of-date current system.
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Higher-end employment opportunities linked to the looming energy boom will be a "magnificent drawing card" to repatriate New Brunswickers, an economics expert said Monday.

A new study predicts the boom will create 33,000 jobs and inject more than $44 billion into the province's economy. It also raises the question: Where will those workers come from?

"This is a matter of great concern to me, because we are on the cusp of a great economic revival in New Brunswick," said Constantine Passaris, an economics professor at the University of New Brunswick.

With substantial increases in energy demands around the globe, the province faces tremendous international competition in attracting workers for its energy projects, he said.

The domestic population is a starting point. New, higher-paying jobs will encourage more citizens to stay put, Passaris said.

New Brunswick will also become more competitive in the national economy - an incentive for workers who have moved on to the greener economic pastures of Alberta, he added.

Bob Manning, chairman of Enterprise Saint John and the Benefits Blueprint project, said recruitment efforts needed to start "yesterday."

"We're already behind the curve," he said, noting the province needs to show workers how these new jobs translate into solid careers.

To tap into the international workforce, wages must also be competitive on a global scale, he added.

Dave Hardy, president of Hardy Stevenson and Associates, a Toronto consulting firm that studies the impact of large-scale economic projects, says a number of strategies are in place to attract immigrants. These include developing partnerships with international recruitment firms, expanding the temporary foreign worker program and researching target countries, such as India and China.

Encouraging people to stay in New Brunswick after the initial building frenzy will require a continuing effort, experts agree.

Spinoffs of the boom - including new capacity for information technology, marketing and accounting services - will create some vacancies, Passaris said.

David Campbell, an expert in economic development, said it's important to focus on growing other sectors, such as health and IT, so the province is not left in the lurch when the construction activity dies down.

It would be a "big mistake" to halt efforts to grow other sectors while focusing on a short-lived construction boom, he said.

"You have all this investment with very few jobs at the end of the day."

As a way to sustain the province's growth, Campbell suggested expanding the energy hub concept to studying green energy, thus generating high-paying research jobs.

Gilles Lepage, co-chair of the province's self-sufficiency task force, said the key to keeping workers is to provide high quality of life and ensure new immigrants feel welcome.

With our aging population, Lepage added, many new jobs will open up in the coming years, and those gaps will need to be filled.

Irving Oil spokesperson Jennifer Parker said sequencing of the projects will also be critical. If workers can be assured of a sustained period of work, there will be more incentive for them to put down roots in Saint John, she said.

In addition, "investment attracts investment," Manning said, noting large-scale investments such as the ones coming in Saint John are often followed by more. For example, heat generated by the liquefied natural gas plant could be used to drive a turbine to create energy.

"Our GDP is going to go to a whole new level, which then gets the economy moving and functioning in very different ways," Manning said.
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I am sure the people at the TJ understand economics, But it seems they choose to forget it on a daily basis. They speak of our debt and our high spending for future projects. It seems very easy to see that an increase population due to jobs that these projects would demand would increase our overrall tax base, and a dominoe effect would incur over local businesses, Making them more taxable. When we invest in quality we recieve quality back, making our image more positive as a city is needed, substantial upgrades to our way out of date city facilities are also needed, to not want the best makes little sense to me. For example the bus terminal, We spend 10 million now and in another 10 years it is out of date, By that time our 10 million is 16 million. So in 10 years we could spend 26 million for two shitty bus terminals which are only for shortsighted growth.OR we spend 22 million now and the building which will be LEED certified last's us 20 years and we save 4 million and we get more use out of the building which would also cost less to sustain due to its energy effiecient standards.

People Only See the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It is like a long term investment which has to the option to pay off quickly or to pay off well in the long run.

Or we could save our money and let it go toward more gardens so hooton can be happy our city looks Pretty
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The new CEO of the airport is planning on terminal expansion and parking lot upgrades. It's good to hear this is still in the planning. With the recent growth and with expected increased traffic, it'll be a great improvement. I'd say it's time for a couple gangways.

It's funny, but the Bangor and Moncton airports have been advertising like crazy here...
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Anyone else think the twisted sisters project for Halifax would be perfect for North of Union?

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