Mobile Development Thread

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by timothyncrystal

Mobile is what it is today because Alabama invested in it!!!

yep ! took them a while but true.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

yea really...it wasnt until the last 2 governors that all this started happening. You know,Al's never had a governor that was currently residing in mobile at the time of his election?? (thats part of what im sayin about the disconnect from the state) I mean, Siegelman was FROM mobile, but he didnt live there when he was running for office... the rest of the state finally realized our potential to be a major US port and manufacturing center! ... finally....

[SouthSky]

Originally Posted by MobileLSUboy2005

yea really...it wasnt until the last 2 governors that all this started happening. You know,Al's never had a governor that was currently residing in mobile at the time of his election?? (thats part of what im sayin about the disconnect from the state) I mean, Siegelman was FROM mobile, but he didnt live there when he was running for office... the rest of the state finally realized our potential to be a major US port and manufacturing center! ... finally....

It took a while for the rest of the state to recognize the fact that Mobile was in Alabama. Business leaders liked Mobile's port and infrastructure but politicians didn't like Mobile's Catholic background (really the only part of the state with any past French rule). Siegelman (Catholic) believe it or not was a major start of "representation" for the area. I didn't like the man, but he tried.

[Electrical Porpoise]

Originally Posted by SouthSky

It took a while for the rest of the state to recognize the fact that Mobile was in Alabama. Business leaders liked Mobile's port and infrastructure but politicians didn't like Mobile's Catholic background (really the only part of the state with any past French rule). Siegelman (Catholic) believe it or not was a major start of "representation" for the area. I didn't like the man, but he tried.

Seigelman did a great of trying. Too bad every thing he did was for himself and not the state.

I agree with the posts above, Mobile is different from the rest of the state. Generally if you are south of I-10/12 from Baton Rouge to Pensacola is it completely different. It mirrors the heritage of the European rulers from years ago and most cities still take pride in those traditions -- from religion, architecture, to lifestyles. Most Mobilians don't want to be like the rest of the state and I don't blame them.

[SouthSky]

Originally Posted by Electrical Porpoise

I agree with the posts above, Mobile is different from the rest of the state. Generally if you are south of I-10/12 from Baton Rouge to Pensacola is it completely different. It mirrors the heritage of the European rulers from years ago and most cities still take pride in those traditions -- from religion, architecture, to lifestyles. Most Mobilians don't want to be like the rest of the state and I don't blame them.

The observance of Mardi Gras is a great example of this.

[10101000]

Is the Riverview lit? I will be coming home tonight and will pass through downtown.

[bayou15]

Good news on some condo units downtown. I put the big stuff in bold.
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From the Mobile Register Sat. February 25, 2006:

http://www.al.com/business/mobilereg...010.xml&coll=3
Property acquired to build on river

Work on Water Street Landing project could start next month, developers say

Saturday, February 25, 2006 By KATHY JUMPER

Real Estate Editor
Developers of Water Street Landing condominiums purchased needed land Friday in downtown Mobile from CSX Railway for $1.8 million, and presales and site work should start in late March, according to Andrew Oliver, project manager for Millennium Mobile.

Millennium, a Pasadena, Calif.-based company, spent almost nine months negotiating with CSX to purchase the 1.6-acre site, at the foot of Government Street at Water Street, that will house its residential and retail project.

The developers plan to build 239 condo units and 60,000 square feet of retail space. Trains will travel through the project on the CSX track, just as trains run underneath the Arthur R. Outlaw Mobile Convention Center.
"We've got the land and we can actually start building everything, and we have the rights to cover those tracks," Oliver said.

This will be the first riverside residential project downtown, allowing people to live full-time within the developing waterfront area now called Michael C. Dow Mobile Landing. Bringing people back to the waterfront to live, dine and shop is key to a renaissance for downtown Mobile, some city officials have said.

White-Spunner Construction in Mobile was hired to build Water Street Landing, which should take two years to complete. A 22,000-square-foot railroad office on the land must first be demolished, after it is cleaned of asbestos, Oliver said.

White-Spunner is the contractor for the interior finishes for the Retirement Systems of Alabama's Battle House Hotel and built the $20 million Alabama Cruise Terminal at Mobile Landing.

The condo unit prices should be released in a week, according to Oliver, who said the number will hinge on the final design and construction costs. The developers have said their project could cost as much as $60 million.
Typically, construction does not start on a project until 80 percent of the units are taken as presales, but Oliver said that work can start while presales are in progress.

MDi, a media group, the marketing agency for Millennium, has a list of 450 people who have expressed interest in the units, Oliver said. Roberts Brothers and REMAX by the Bay on the Eastern Shore will market the units.

"It's amazing the number of people that are talking about the project," said Chris King of Roberts Brothers. "I have calls all the time from prospective buyers. They like the lifestyle it will create, and the location. Right now, the downtown residential market is great."

A commercial broker will be hired to find tenants for the retail portion of the development, Oliver said. Locally owned Wintzell's Oyster House has committed to opening a restaurant there, but with a Caribbean theme, he said.

"The whole back side of our commercial space will have a Caribbean theme to tie into the cruise ship terminal," he said.


450 on waiting list, Damn everytime I think of this project and how LSU got cheated on 2years ago at Auburn gets me real upset. Now we have to put up with 3.50 a gallon on gas....Help I need a drink Whereya at CUZ!

[CottonCity251]

Calm down my friend...developments come they go, no need to beat yourself up about it.

[Scottybo]

I see no bold?

[BlessedMobile]

Originally Posted by Musicisright

When did "John Word's" close?

Hey Music...I'm waiting on one of your photos to update by wall. Don't forget me! To answer your question, "John Word's" was closed around '85. Brookley had been closed 20 years by then and Mobile's paper and chemical industries were thriving. His restaurant was very cosmopolitan for our demands at the time.

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by SouthSky

It took a while for the rest of the state to recognize the fact that Mobile was in Alabama. Business leaders liked Mobile's port and infrastructure but politicians didn't like Mobile's Catholic background (really the only part of the state with any past French rule). Siegelman (Catholic) believe it or not was a major start of "representation" for the area. I didn't like the man, but he tried.

Oh so thats why we are treated like out cast in this state because of the French Catholic heritage,I always wonder why that explains it. Mobile definintly has a different charecter and culture from the rest of the state. I attend school in Huntsville , it`s an ok city but it doesn`t have any charecter !


I`m with bayou we suppose to be seeing those things comming off of I10 right now. TimothynCrystal says he`s headed to the Port tonight, i`m shure it would have been nice to see thsoe things lstanding and lit to night. If Oliver believd that Water Street landing would work, well I`m shure others will think the samething shouldn`t they ?

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by BlessedMobile

Hey Music...I'm waiting on one of your photos to update by wall. Don't forget me! To answer your question, "John Word's" was closed around '85. Brookley had been closed 20 years by then and Mobile's paper and chemical industries were thriving. His restaurant was very cosmopolitan for our demands at the time.

Off Topic: I have heared that the restaurant "True" thats in the new shopping area off of Dauphin St across from Springhill is arealy nice place to eat. I`ve seen pics of the interior and it blew me the ceiling is blue and gold and it appears to have tiny lights in the ceiling mimicing a night sky full of stars thats crazy. I will have to visit that place when I come home for the summer expensive but I heared it`s worth it all.It was rated number 1 out of Alabam`s top 10 restaurant s by "Trip Advisor.Com."

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by CottonCity251

Calm down my friend...developments come they go, no need to beat yourself up about it.

Yo are you the same CottonCity251 that posted on Rich Boy`s You Tube mixtape ?

[Electrical Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Oh so thats why we are treated like out cast in this state because of the French Catholic heritage,I always wonder why that explains it.

I believe he was being partially facetious. It wasn't the religion as much as it was the ideological views that follow their respective religious beliefs. And politicians obviously knew they wouldn't receive the support they needed if they sent a lot of focus to the Catholic dominated areas -- especially reforms that favored the beliefs.

[yeahwhatever]

Originally Posted by Scottybo

I see no bold?

all i see is a two year old article about a project that has been stalled/dead ever since it was announced.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

haha yea, i used to work for white-spunner...trust me....there's nothing going on with water street landing

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by Electrical Porpoise

I believe he was being partially facetious. It wasn't the religion as much as it was the ideological views that follow their respective religious beliefs. And politicians obviously knew they wouldn't receive the support they needed if they sent a lot of focus to the Catholic dominated areas -- especially reforms that favored the beliefs.

Wow that realy explains a lot ,learn something new everyday. Thats not fair but finaly we are being recognized by politicians in the rest of the state. That also expalins why we are the only reagion in the state that. doesn`t have an auto plant and never had one purposed for our area. The Mississippi GulfCoast is developed and is a Catholic dominated area, I believe but the state of Mississippi saw the potensial of there coast a long time ago.

[mobile]

with all the wal-mart's we have in mobile we should have a wal-mart DC. Thats like 900 more jobs and the starting pay is around 15 dollars an hour.

[Musicisright]

Originally Posted by bayou15

Good news on some condo units downtown. I put the big stuff in bold.
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From the Mobile Register Sat. February 25, 2006:

http://www.al.com/business/mobilereg...010.xml&coll=3
Property acquired to build on river

Work on Water Street Landing project could start next month, developers say

Saturday, February 25, 2006 By KATHY JUMPER

Real Estate Editor
Developers of Water Street Landing condominiums purchased needed land Friday in downtown Mobile from CSX Railway for $1.8 million, and presales and site work should start in late March, according to Andrew Oliver, project manager for Millennium Mobile.

Millennium, a Pasadena, Calif.-based company, spent almost nine months negotiating with CSX to purchase the 1.6-acre site, at the foot of Government Street at Water Street, that will house its residential and retail project.

The developers plan to build 239 condo units and 60,000 square feet of retail space. Trains will travel through the project on the CSX track, just as trains run underneath the Arthur R. Outlaw Mobile Convention Center.
"We've got the land and we can actually start building everything, and we have the rights to cover those tracks," Oliver said.

This will be the first riverside residential project downtown, allowing people to live full-time within the developing waterfront area now called Michael C. Dow Mobile Landing. Bringing people back to the waterfront to live, dine and shop is key to a renaissance for downtown Mobile, some city officials have said.

White-Spunner Construction in Mobile was hired to build Water Street Landing, which should take two years to complete. A 22,000-square-foot railroad office on the land must first be demolished, after it is cleaned of asbestos, Oliver said.

White-Spunner is the contractor for the interior finishes for the Retirement Systems of Alabama's Battle House Hotel and built the $20 million Alabama Cruise Terminal at Mobile Landing.

The condo unit prices should be released in a week, according to Oliver, who said the number will hinge on the final design and construction costs. The developers have said their project could cost as much as $60 million.
Typically, construction does not start on a project until 80 percent of the units are taken as presales, but Oliver said that work can start while presales are in progress.

MDi, a media group, the marketing agency for Millennium, has a list of 450 people who have expressed interest in the units, Oliver said. Roberts Brothers and REMAX by the Bay on the Eastern Shore will market the units.

"It's amazing the number of people that are talking about the project," said Chris King of Roberts Brothers. "I have calls all the time from prospective buyers. They like the lifestyle it will create, and the location. Right now, the downtown residential market is great."

A commercial broker will be hired to find tenants for the retail portion of the development, Oliver said. Locally owned Wintzell's Oyster House has committed to opening a restaurant there, but with a Caribbean theme, he said.

"The whole back side of our commercial space will have a Caribbean theme to tie into the cruise ship terminal," he said.


450 on waiting list, Damn everytime I think of this project and how LSU got cheated on 2years ago at Auburn gets me real upset. Now we have to put up with 3.50 a gallon on gas....Help I need a drink Whereya at CUZ!

That's a two year old article there, bud.

[Musicisright]

Originally Posted by BlessedMobile

Hey Music...I'm waiting on one of your photos to update by wall. Don't forget me! To answer your question, "John Word's" was closed around '85. Brookley had been closed 20 years by then and Mobile's paper and chemical industries were thriving. His restaurant was very cosmopolitan for our demands at the time.

I haven't gotten down there to fo it. Don't worry, I won't forget you!