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Old Posted Mar 19, 2008, 8:44 PM
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The fight for that prestigious address
By Roman Zakaluzny, Ottawa Business Journal Staff
Wed, Mar 19, 2008 12:00 PM EST


Despite new office towers, fed demand keeps downtown market hopping

As the federal government continues to gobble up office digs downtown, private-sector companies are moving quickly to secure space for themselves in a market dominated by the public service.

Vacant commercial real estate in the downtown – in particular large amounts of contiguous space – are getting snapped up as quickly as they are becoming free, say the experts.

It's a trend that hasn't abated despite Constitution Square's 350,000-square-foot third phase coming on stream last May, and Minto's new LEED Gold building at 180 Kent St. that's expected to be completed in mid-2009.

"I guess there's not a whole lot of space left in the new Constitution Square III tower, last time I checked," said Michael Church, principal and vice-president of Avison Young commercial brokers' Ottawa office. "They've got a number of encumbered floors there. If someone was looking for 30,000 square feet of space, they'd be hard pressed to get it. You can get some . . . but you'd have to stagger it over time. Contiguous space is hard to find."

Mr. Church laid the blame for that on the federal government, which he said has been snapping up all the "big blocks" of space as quickly as they become available.

"The market is still healthy in Ottawa," agreed Denis Shank, an associate vice-president at GVA Devencore's Ottawa brokerage office.

"The feds have 50 per cent of the space out there. What they decide – the ripple effects – definitely impact the market," he said.

Private sector firms with large space requirements, like Ottawa's larger law firms, need to play musical chairs – and they need to play the game quickly – in order to meet their space requirements.

This September, Nelligan O'Brien Payne LLP is planning on moving its 125 Ottawa staff from its current class-B digs at 66 Slater St. three blocks away to the 15th floor of the Sun Life Financial Centre at 50 O'Connor St. (formerly the Clarica building).

The move will help consolidate the law firm to one floor instead of three, said office manager and HR director Caroline Choquette, and will allow it to upgrade from a class-B space to a leaner and meaner class-A office space befitting a large firm. It will also be a more environmentally friendly office, she said.

"It will afford us to all be on one floor. The floor plate is much larger," said Ms. Choquette. "We're coming to the end of our lease. We've been here for 20 years, and we're basically looking for fresh, new space, and a building that can provide more services" for its staff, including restaurants, banks and even dry cleaners, something Ms. Choquette said was in short supply on the east end of Slater.

"We like the (current) location – it's close to the courthouse and the Rideau Centre," she acknowledged. "But we're only moving three blocks away."

Of course, with Nelligan's space requirements reaching some 30,000 square feet, it's a move that needed smooth deal making and some lucky timing to proceed, said Mr. Church.

For Nelligan to move to the Sun Life building, someone else had to vacate.

"What happened was Osler (Hoskin & Harcourt LLP) moved out of 50 O'Connor and into the top two floors of Constitution Square phase III," explained Mr. Church. "(Osler) had been there probably since it was built 20 years ago." Musical chairs ensued. With Osler moving out, Nelligan moved in, and everyone ended up more or less where they wanted.

"The feds were a concern," said Ms. Choquette. "But when we actually started looking, we had specific buildings in mind, so we knew what we wanted and where we wanted to go. We had about three or four options open to us, so we didn't feel like we were squeezed into having to take specific space. We were able to cherry pick space that we wanted, and we got into a building that was probably our number one choice."

Ms. Choquette said she could not give details on how much Nelligan is paying for the lease at 50 O'Connor, although space there is being advertised at $28 a square foot. The lease was a "standard" 10-year deal with options to downsize after five years and the first right of refusal on contiguous space if they felt like expanding, she said.

"Of course there's so much pressure from the feds," said Mr. Church. "They get the big blocks. When big blocks (become available), they get snapped up. So it's getting a little tighter."

In fact, Mr. Church said, rumours about town are pointing towards a federal government tender call for 30,000 square feet, due out this week. He sees them snapping up the newly vacated Nelligan office at 66 Slater, even though it is a class-B space.

"As long as (the building) meets accessibility standards, the government is very rate-driven, as we know," Mr. Church said. "And it makes it a lot easier to get it by Treasury Board."
I'm not sure if I buy this. There are a ton of commercial proposals out in the CBD that aren't getting any play at all. I've also yet to hear if Minto has secured anybody for 180 Kent...and they would definitely announce something like that.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2008, 1:19 AM
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And the solution is: Build up!

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Old Posted Mar 27, 2008, 5:11 PM
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There's a construction crane up beside Ottawa U's newish sports field. Anybody know what it's for?
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Also, There is something going on on St.Raymond near the gGatienau Parkway...

Some sort of road I guess...

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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 4:02 AM
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There's a construction crane up beside Ottawa U's newish sports field. Anybody know what it's for?
Nothing too exciting... it's simply a crane for the massive water main project going on behind the sandy hill community centre.

they dug maybe 4 floors below ground all winter long and are replacing a massive water main and sewer system.. the hole was actually quite impressive...Probably twice the size of the mondrian hole
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 1:49 PM
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Also, There is something going on on St.Raymond near the gGatienau Parkway...

Some sort of road I guess...


I think that's a sound barrier.
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Exactement.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 2:12 PM
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Nothing too exciting... it's simply a crane for the massive water main project going on behind the sandy hill community centre.

they dug maybe 4 floors below ground all winter long and are replacing a massive water main and sewer system.. the hole was actually quite impressive...Probably twice the size of the mondrian hole
It is impressive, and seeing as I live across the street from it, the blasting was even more fun! Especially early in the morning when i was in the shower and bottles fell on me.

Its supposed to be finished Spring 2009.
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It's a lot more exciting than a sound barrier.

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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 9:00 PM
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They are pretty exciting things, aren't they?

More — of the landscape is occuring on Chemin d'Aylmer, across from the Hippodrome. Some new strip mall is going in.. trees were bulldozed and the cement foundation was poured all within a couple of days.. I was surprised.

The Park Place Condos on Taché/St. Joseph is moving along quickly as well.. the pit has been shored up. No signs of a crane yet, I'm not quite sure there will be one.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 9:08 PM
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I was walking near the proposed Richcraft condos and saw a City of Ottawa notice on the south side (Nepean St) - it said that a couple of the places were slated for demolition but one was allowed to stay. You'd think they'd try to snap up all of the abandoned shitshacks on that corner, unless this one place wasn't abandoned and the squatter, er.. owner was holding out for a major buyout.

Richcraft has signs on all three sides of the lot now (Gloucester, Nepean, Bay). It's reminiscent of that game 'squeeze-play' on The Price is Right.
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They are pretty exciting things, aren't they?
More — of the landscape is occuring on Chemin d'Aylmer, across from the Hippodrome. Some new strip mall is going in.. trees were bulldozed and the cement foundation was poured all within a couple of days.. I was surprised.
Just what Aylmer needs...another strip mall...speaking of which isn't this strip mall near Cabaret le Pink...a fine establishment of impeccable virtue.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2008, 9:10 PM
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^ it is.. right across the street from that place and the now abandoned "Mr. Gas".

Another strip mall is planned across from Allen Rd, near the Champlain Golf course. Blech.
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from the draft comprehensive zbl report

801 Wellington Street

Ward 14
(DCR Phoenix Corp.)
request

Allow FSI of 2.9 on the subject site.

staff response

A zoning amendment process is underway for this site, to permit two apartments buildings, both with heights of 63.8 m.

Should this site be rezoned, as per the current zoning amendment request under the current old Ottawa Zoning By-law, the Draft Comprehensive Zoning By-law will reflect the permissions granted, including any changes to FSI to ensure compliance with the new Zoning By-law.

Is this the parcel along Scott/Albert adjacent to City Centre? This proposal has been mentioned previously..

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^ it is.. right across the street from that place and the now abandoned "Mr. Gas".

Another strip mall is planned across from Allen Rd, near the Champlain Golf course. Blech.
Isn't there a Masonic Hall along there....they seem to be a bit of an anomoly (sp?) in QC.
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Yes, the Masonic Temple is on the opposite corner. Whenver I see that place, it reminds me of some secret clubhouse. The strip mall is going on the NW corner of Castelbeau / Aylmer Rd.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2008, 3:12 PM
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Gatt posted this in the Gatineau section - a new microbrewery for downtown Gatineau:

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080401/CPDROIT/80331264/6784/CPDROIT

it's located at the brick building in the middle of this pic (by me, last November)



Incidentally, the G. Leblanc building next door is becoming a baby store. Looks like Montcalm is on the way to becoming the next big trendy street.
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from the draft comprehensive zbl report

801 Wellington Street

Ward 14
(DCR Phoenix Corp.)
request

Allow FSI of 2.9 on the subject site.

staff response

A zoning amendment process is underway for this site, to permit two apartments buildings, both with heights of 63.8 m.

Should this site be rezoned, as per the current zoning amendment request under the current old Ottawa Zoning By-law, the Draft Comprehensive Zoning By-law will reflect the permissions granted, including any changes to FSI to ensure compliance with the new Zoning By-law.

Is this the parcel along Scott/Albert adjacent to City Centre? This proposal has been mentioned previously..
If the address is 801, it should be on the north side of Wellington because it is an odd number. City Centre used to be 880 Wellington, so it should be also a bit east of that site. This somewhat places it at the corner of (Wellington) Albert and the future extension of Preston street. I thought all this land still belongs to the NCC.

But then again, Wellington used to veer south from City Centre, making that parcel you mention to be on the north side of it....
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Gatt posted this in the Gatineau section - a new microbrewery for downtown Gatineau:

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080401/CPDROIT/80331264/6784/CPDROIT

it's located at the brick building in the middle of this pic (by me, last November)



Incidentally, the G. Leblanc building next door is becoming a baby store. Looks like Montcalm is on the way to becoming the next big trendy street.
Hopefully there isn't too much traffic there to prevent this from happening. It's the main route between the 50 and the Chaudière Bridge, and will likely be fitted with buses-only lanes within the next two years as one of the Rapibus links between the rail right-of-way and the Terrasses de la Chaudière and Place du Portage complexes.

My fingers are crossed that with a bit of work and imagination this can one day become something like the River Walk (Paseo del Rio) in San Antonio, Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Walk
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Hopefully there isn't too much traffic there to prevent this from happening. It's the main route between the 50 and the Chaudière Bridge, and will likely be fitted with buses-only lanes within the next two years as one of the Rapibus links between the rail right-of-way and the Terrasses de la Chaudière and Place du Portage complexes.

My fingers are crossed that with a bit of work and imagination this can one day become something like the River Walk (Paseo del Rio) in San Antonio, Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Walk
One of the large lots is for sale around there. I hope someone does a good job with building something cool.
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