Mobile Development Thread

[MobileLSUboy2005]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Hmmm not bad I see Mobile county has grown nearly 8,000 in the past 4 years.I wonder how they do the census ? I`m still convinced that Mboilecounty was undercounted. I realy think that Mobile County is around the 430 or 440 thousand mark, we came drom 402,000 + in 2006 to 404,000 + in 2007 based on the census I say 430,000 not in growth but just in general. Timothy Crystal I was shocked to see that Mobile was in the 400,000`s along with Baton Rouge and New Orleans !! i thought they both were around the 700,000 range as for county population that is East Baton Rouge and Jefferson Parishes were both in the 400,000`s.

My guess for the 2010 CSA population for Mobile may be knocking at the door around 700,000 but if they include the Mississippi counties of jackson,Gereene,and Clark county and as well as Washington and Escambia county Alabama Mobile`s CSA can very well be around 1.3 or 1.4 million in 2010. I f you included thsoe counties as of now 2008 it`s already around 900,000 plust now.Baldwin County continue to fill in the gaps between Mobile and P-cola the Mobile Pensicola CSA population for 2008 is alreday around 1.3 million now in 2010 it can very well be around 1.7 million !!

well East Baton Rouge Parish is quite small in land area compared to Mobile County, you have to look at its adjacent parishes...Ascension of 99,000 and Livingston of 116,000, Ibverville of 32,000 and West Baton Rouge of 22,000 you do get a total of over 700,000... thats why - same for Jefferson Parish- if you include Orleans, St. Tammany, Jefferson, and Plaquemines all which are def. part of the metro, you get over 900,000....the difference here is that the Parishes are much smaller than our counties

[10101000]

This is not about Louisiana, this is about Mobile

[buckett5425]

Yall's estimates just seem grossly out of control, 1.3 million? Mobile is NOT that large of a city. I have been there, and seen it first hand. Memphis has a MSA of 1.2 million as does New Orleans. Now compare those two cities to Mobile. Does Mobile seem equal to them? No!....Now I agree, loving your city is a great thing, but lets get with reality here. First it was "we need a trump tower" to now our MSA over a million. Get with reality, please. Mobile is only going to continue to grow and prosper, but im sorry, the city isnt as great as memphis and nola....atleast not for a couple of more years ;-).


On another note, I heard an add for the Air Force Tanker project on the radio in Baton Rouge yesterday. The ad explained the the legislators are working hard to bring this project to mobile, and that it will help all of the deep south, with all the the vendors and distributors that will also be involved in the project. I found it really interesting that they were advertiseing in baton rouge, but the message stressed that we too, need to call our legislators to help mobile, keep a project that was rightfully theirs, and that Boeing was just a bunch of sore losers.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

LOL...right on Buckett - well i never was saying that mobile was 1.3 mil...that is retarded, since birmingham isnt even that big! but i mean, i guess if you're trying to do CSA stuff its different than MSA, but the lines on the gulf coast are so hard to draw since its kinda just one big blob of population between new orleans and panama city... what i was saying is that when you are looking at the numbers of the metro areas of the south, you have to compare areas of different sizes, which in different states may include more or less counties or parishes

i still think its funny they are playing the radio ads for the air force tankers here in BR, but im really glad they are! Mobile's all psyched about this and we really need this contract to pull through!

[phoenixboi08]

Well, let's hope that we don't push 1 million too soon. I'm not knocking growth, but I think Mobile's finally in a state where it's begining to learn how to promote growth and sustain it. Too much too soon will ruin the balance...Or who knows? Maybe I'm wrong (and god do I hope I am. 1 MIllion... )

[Scottybo]

I'd hate to see Airport Blvd in 3-7 years.

[phoenixboi08]

I hate it now Mobile really needs to invest in expanding the highway (when the time comes of course...)

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by buckett5425

Yall's estimates just seem grossly out of control, 1.3 million? Mobile is NOT that large of a city. I have been there, and seen it first hand. Memphis has a MSA of 1.2 million as does New Orleans. Now compare those two cities to Mobile. Does Mobile seem equal to them? No!....Now I agree, loving your city is a great thing, but lets get with reality here. First it was "we need a trump tower" to now our MSA over a million. Get with reality, please. Mobile is only going to continue to grow and prosper, but im sorry, the city isnt as great as memphis and nola....atleast not for a couple of more years ;-).


On another note, I heard an add for the Air Force Tanker project on the radio in Baton Rouge yesterday. The ad explained the the legislators are working hard to bring this project to mobile, and that it will help all of the deep south, with all the the vendors and distributors that will also be involved in the project. I found it really interesting that they were advertiseing in baton rouge, but the message stressed that we too, need to call our legislators to help mobile, keep a project that was rightfully theirs, and that Boeing was just a bunch of sore losers.

I know Mobile`s CSA isn`t 1.3 million my friend, but I do know that other counties should be included in the CSA population. Any body with good sense can see that Mobile does not have a CSA population of 1.3 million and you have good sense and you can see that. I used the population counts from counties that surround Mobile County from Jackson County ,Miss to Escambia County ,Fla there is around 1.3 million people thats what I got the numbers from. My hope is that if they decide to combine all 8 counties which make up a population of 1.3 million it would become a megalopolis if i`m not mistakin. Just like your friend said before there is a huge dense population between N.O and Panama and it would be hard to just single it out as 1 big CSA N.O, Mobile and P-cola it would be hard to define.

[eastbayblu]

The new Hampton Inn site and some pics of the skyline.

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by eastbayblu

The new Hampton Inn site and some pics of the skyline.

The hotel has added some density to that block and urbinity.I wish it had a little more hight to it though around 200 feet.

[bayou15]

Did anyone figure out which one is taller, the Riverview hotel or the tomb stone(bank building)? Can t tell from the pic above.

[Scottybo]

Originally Posted by bayou15

Did anyone figure out which one is taller, the Riverview hotel or the tomb stone(bank building)? Can t tell from the pic above.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=3431578&postcount=1346

ABB by a few stories.

[Bama_75]

The hotel does add a lot to the block...good pics.

[MobileLSUboy2005]

Originally Posted by Scottybo

I'd hate to see Airport Blvd in 3-7 years.

i hate to see airport blvd now...

not just the traffic, but damn...its ugly as hell!

[10101000]

Originally Posted by buckett5425

Yall's estimates just seem grossly out of control, 1.3 million? Mobile is NOT that large of a city. I have been there, and seen it first hand. Memphis has a MSA of 1.2 million as does New Orleans. Now compare those two cities to Mobile. Does Mobile seem equal to them? No!....Now I agree, loving your city is a great thing, but lets get with reality here. First it was "we need a trump tower" to now our MSA over a million. Get with reality, please. Mobile is only going to continue to grow and prosper, but im sorry, the city isnt as great as memphis and nola....atleast not for a couple of more years ;-).


On another note, I heard an add for the Air Force Tanker project on the radio in Baton Rouge yesterday. The ad explained the the legislators are working hard to bring this project to mobile, and that it will help all of the deep south, with all the the vendors and distributors that will also be involved in the project. I found it really interesting that they were advertiseing in baton rouge, but the message stressed that we too, need to call our legislators to help mobile, keep a project that was rightfully theirs, and that Boeing was just a bunch of sore losers.

http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/CO-EST2007-01.html

Well, I hate to break it to you, but you need to look at the NOLA figures again. New Orleans is not as big as it use to be, Orleans parish as of July 07 was 239,124, and the metro dropped too; take a look at the link above. The rest moved to Livingston. The rest of the people in this thread (Mobile), please do not make anymore accusations about Louisiana and Alabama, because it starts complications with others looking at how we, as a city, act, even though most are not living in Mobile. However, my intention was to post how the city and metro has grown. Oh, and Bucket I heard the ad, it did not say anything about Boeing being a bunch of sore losers, where did you get that from?

Last, some fellow took some awesome pics of Mobile, check out this link.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=148081

[Port_of_Bama]

Airport west of Florida street has no charecter just traffic and a big strip mall. I love the photos especialy the one black and white one. My favorite part of downtown is The Fort Conde Village and see that the poster was interested in it. ThAt Part of Mobile realy reflects what Mobile truely is and was. I wish they would redo those buildings in the Frt Conde area and replicate some other area in Mobile just like it brick streets, gas lit street lights and Spanish architecture the whole works. I agree that we need to fill all the buildings downtown first then build up. When they build up I hope they fill in the west and north side of downtown most development is in the east and south. downtown Mobile is pretty big in terms of land size the hank Aron Loop which is the Broad,Water,and Canal street connection. That is a large area but some people think of downtown as just the Bienville and entertainment district area.The north east portion of Broad street needts infill the most around the Orange Grove area redo the historic houses in the area and tare down the junk and build new houses to blend in with the historic houses.


TimothoynCrystal I for one know that you didn`t post the census to compare it just shocked me that Mobile county was in the same ball park with Lousiana`s largest parishes. I thought that they both were in the 500,000 or 600,000 `s I know that N.O and B-ham are the same as in CSA population and I thought that Orleans Parish ,well in the past like 2005 was in the 600,000`s like Jefferson county, hell my bad if I offended anybody about there city.

Back to Mobile ! oh yeah TimothynCrystal do you know were the painting on the wall is on those pics I have never seen those before.

[phoenixboi08]

Originally Posted by MobileLSUboy2005

i hate to see airport blvd now...

not just the traffic, but damn...its ugly as hell!

I KNOW! I think that that area is where Condo investments should be made....kinda like the Bankhead area in Atlanta...I don't know...I really wish something could be done about it

[10101000]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Airport west of Florida street has no charecter just traffic and a big strip mall. I love the photos especialy the one black and white one. My favorite part of downtown is The Fort Conde Village and see that the poster was interested in it. ThAt Part of Mobile realy reflects what Mobile truely is and was. I wish they would redo those buildings in the Frt Conde area and replicate some other area in Mobile just like it brick streets, gas lit street lights and Spanish architecture the whole works. I agree that we need to fill all the buildings downtown first then build up. When they build up I hope they fill in the west and north side of downtown most development is in the east and south. downtown Mobile is pretty big in terms of land size the hank Aron Loop which is the Broad,Water,and Canal street connection. That is a large area but some people think of downtown as just the Bienville and entertainment district area.The north east portion of Broad street needts infill the most around the Orange Grove area redo the historic houses in the area and tare down the junk and build new houses to blend in with the historic houses.


TimothoynCrystal I for one know that you didn`t post the census to compare it just shocked me that Mobile county was in the same ball park with Lousiana`s largest parishes. I thought that they both were in the 500,000 or 600,000 `s I know that N.O and B-ham are the same as in CSA population and I thought that Orleans Parish ,well in the past like 2005 was in the 600,000`s like Jefferson county, hell my bad if I offended anybody about there city.

Back to Mobile ! oh yeah TimothynCrystal do you know were the painting on the wall is on those pics I have never seen those before.

You did not offend me, I just hate when others make comments about us Mobilians, without looking in to their region. About the pics, I have no idea where those are, I was wondering the same thing.

[Port_of_Bama]

Originally Posted by phoenixboi08

I KNOW! I think that that area is where Condo investments should be made....kinda like the Bankhead area in Atlanta...I don't know...I really wish something could be done about it

condos on Airport not bad, do you guys think tha a brownstone development would be nice on sirport or it wouldn`t fit that area ? and I see were you are coming from TnC well I love to dream big about my city I have treveled to many places but just for some crazy reason I love Mobile so much. Our shopping sucks to me for a city our size but I love it any way ,Mobile is in my heart and that will never change.

[nimsjus]

Originally Posted by timothyncrystal

You did not offend me, I just hate when others make comments about us Mobilians, without looking in to their region. About the pics, I have no idea where those are, I was wondering the same thing.

They are in an alley way between two buildings off of Dauphin. If you are coming from the west on Dauphin, they will be on your left in the vicinity of the Cathedral. I have noticed them for years and thought that more things like it would add to the character of Mobile(especially the arts scene).