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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 4:56 AM
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Regarding the North Pearl Plan ...there are some very innovative revisions being considered to the area zoning.

The major breakthrough is an idea about allowing un-limited height in the area tied to a maximum FAR. The final FAR is under review although could be as high as 9:1. Building's above 175' in height would be limited to a maximum floor plate size (range discussed is 10,000 sf to 12,500 sf) and would have height only limited by the FAR and the design.
Those are still quite large floorplates. In Vancouver the average tower has a floorplate in the 6,500-8,500 sqft range. Regardless, I'm excited to see what comes together in the North Pearl district.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 6:39 PM
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These proposed 'small floorplates' are clearly larger compared to Vancouver. Everyone makes this comparison although this isn't Vancouver. I"m not sure how their economics work there although doing a 10,000 sf floorplate or smaller here is challenging except for higher end condos and even then is challenging.

The added cost for exterior skin, core, elevators etc drive the cost beyond what current sales prices will typically bear.

I'm a big fan of smaller floorplates and would like to see more of them here although I think we won't see many. The condo market is slow and these don't work for office or affordable housing.

Long term the smaller floor plates are working against sustainble goals...It will be tricky to get to Carbon Neutral in 2030 as things are and even harder with tiny floorplates.
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^ Vancouver costs a LOT of money to live there. The non-affordable condos are all like $500,000... except they usually build around 25% of the units as affordable.

I just realized that made no sense. From what I have read, construction costs are around $500/sq foot in Vancouver, which is on the high side for high-rise construction.

The difference is that Vancouver has a lot of money. All the lower-income "whiny NIMBYs" were all forced out 30 years ago because of rising real estate prices and taxes.
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^ Vancouver costs a LOT of money to live there. The non-affordable condos are all like $500,000... except they usually build around 25% of the units as affordable.

I just realized that made no sense. From what I have read, construction costs are around $500/sq foot in Vancouver, which is on the high side for high-rise construction.

The difference is that Vancouver has a lot of money. All the lower-income "whiny NIMBYs" were all forced out 30 years ago because of rising real estate prices and taxes.
Are you sure about that? I was there numerous times in the last couple of years and looked at a lot of real-estate fliers in the window. None of the places I looked at--outside of Yaletown--were asking that kind of money as an average. The biggest differences to me seemed to be that the units had what the Portland market would consider low-end finishes and the skins on the buildings were lower quality. But the prices you are quoting simply were not true 2-3 years ago as an average (I was seeing prices in the $250-$300k Canadian). Another big difference is the VAST amount of these towers. We have a handful of high-rise condos. They have literally hundreds of them and they are all over Vancouver--not just the downtown.

Specifically what part of town are you referring to?
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as I mentioned in another thread, it's just great to see this lot developed.

that said, still surprised it's ~2 stories.
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crane is coming down today.

Never seen them do it during a work day, usually Fri/Sat/Sun. Wonder why.
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Developer, architect unveil proposed design for Meier and Frank warehouse

Project will go before Historic Landmarks Commission in April

POSTED: 06:00 AM PDT Thursday, March 20, 2008
BY LIBBY TUCKER

Gerding Edlen Development Co. is moving ahead with its renovation of the historic Meier & Frank warehouse into office and retail space. GBD Architects last night unveiled its first proposed design of the building to a Pearl District Neighborhood Association committee, which voted unanimously in support of the design.

Plans for the five-story Meier & Frank Delivery Depot at 1417 N.W. Everett St. call for offices to occupy the top three stories with a new SageGlass-walled penthouse on the fifth floor. Stacked parking is included in a second-floor garage. And retail space occupies the ground floor, alongside a potential 6,000 square-foot event room to be rented for community gatherings and private functions.

The building’s cast-concrete exterior, now boarded up and prey to graffiti, will be restored and the windows replaced.

“A lot of repair has to be done,” Keith Skille, project manager for GBD, said. “Because the windows are cast into the concrete wall that in some cases is spalled so bad there’s exposed rebar.”

Inside, contractors will cut through the concrete slab, leaving the existing girders and beams to create a “dramatic” 35-foot-tall atrium, Craig Mendenhall, an architect with GBD, said.

A first-floor lobby would carry all the way through the building opening it to a proposed relocation of the Sauvie Island Bridge, which would become a bike and pedestrian bridge over Interstate 405. Each floor of offices will also contain bicycle storage, locker rooms and showers to accommodate commuters.

Proposed street improvements call for cutting one lane of traffic from 14th Avenue, which would be reduced from three lanes to two, and widening the sidewalk in front of the building.

The neighborhood association went one step farther, envisioning Northwest Flanders as a “true bike boulevard” connecting Northwest Portland from the West Hills to the east bank esplanade, Patricia Gardner, chairwoman of the association’s planning, design and transportation committee, said.

The building also promises to be one of the developer’s greenest with solar photovoltaic panels on the roof generating up to 16 percent of the building’s power and a rainwater catchment system that drains to a 100-gallon storage tank in the basement that will provide all the water for toilet-flushing and irrigation at the site. The developer is targeting a U.S. Green Building Council Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design platinum rating.

To maintain the building’s low profile with the penthouse addition, the architects designed a wavy roofline whose peaks balance the solid horizontal lines of the bottom four floors, Mendenhall said. The final floor-to-area ratio will come in well below the allowed ratio, he said.

Construction documents are about 50 percent complete on the project. Gerding Edlen has decided not to release a rendering of the proposed project until after it goes to the Historic Landmarks Commission April 14.
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about a week ago I was by the site and some work was being done, mostly getting rid of loose concrete on the buildings exterior. Very good news
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Sometimes I wonder why certain structures get landmark status. Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad GE is doing what they are doing, however I don't see the significance of this building. It seems squat and uninteresting. There is another old Meier and Frank warehouse three blocks away that was converted to condos a few years ago.
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Sometimes I wonder why certain structures get landmark status. Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad GE is doing what they are doing, however I don't see the significance of this building. It seems squat and uninteresting. There is another old Meier and Frank warehouse three blocks away that was converted to condos a few years ago.
I sometimes feel the same way. I think it's fairly easy to get landmark status and given the tax benefit and increasingly traded development rights that can be sold, it makes sense from a financial standpoint. Regardless, I think even nondescript buildings such as this tell a story, which is some of what historic landmarks are supposed to do.

What I've learned more recently is that reuse of these kinds of buildings makes perfect sense regarding sustainability as well. The embodied energy in the materials are worth way more than the energy savings of a new more energy efficient structure. Of course the old buildings can be retrofitted to be just as energy efficient as well new buildings too. Even if the materials were recycled, there's energy lost in the transporting off site, recycling process somewhere else, and transport to another site. Traded development rights allow the density to built on a vacant site somewhere else (maybe getting taller buildings). It's a great process!
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Inside, contractors will cut through the concrete slab, leaving the existing girders and beams to create a “dramatic” 35-foot-tall atrium, Craig Mendenhall, an architect with GBD, said.

A first-floor lobby would carry all the way through the building opening it to a proposed relocation of the Sauvie Island Bridge, which would become a bike and pedestrian bridge over Interstate 405. Each floor of offices will also contain bicycle storage, locker rooms and showers to accommodate commuters.

Proposed street improvements call for cutting one lane of traffic from 14th Avenue, which would be reduced from three lanes to two, and widening the sidewalk in front of the building.
This will be very cool. Now if we can only get a tower at that crappy site across the street...

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Construction documents are about 50 percent complete on the project. Gerding Edlen has decided not to release a rendering of the proposed project until after it goes to the Historic Landmarks Commission April 14.
Interesting. Probably a smart move, too.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2008, 10:32 PM
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Down by the river
Developers and city planners are targeting the N. Pearl District
Portland Business Journal - by Andy Giegerich Business Journal staff writer

In most cities, waterfront property near downtown is considered prime real estate.

Yet in Portland, many properties along Northwest Naito Parkway between the Broadway and Fremont bridges have long been undeveloped and ignored. The oversight has vexed planners and developers who believe the area has extensive mixed-use potential.

The tide could soon turn for the area city planners call the North Pearl District. They, along with Pearl District neighbors, hope to create better access to the Willamette River from the bustling Pearl.

And developers say the stretch -- bordered roughly by Northwest 14th Avenue to the northwest, Northwest 9th Avenue to the southwest and the Willamette River -- could become a hot district that hosts businesses, retailers and residents.

"There are great opportunities there," said Mark Edlen, a managing principal with Gerding/Edlen Development. "The gap between the two bridges has to be filled in at some point."

Indeed, the gap is already closing, thanks mainly to the redevelopment of the Centennial Mill site, at 1100 N.W. Naito Parkway. The site, which formerly housed riverfront flour and feed mills, sits four blocks north of the Broadway Bridge.

The Portland Development Commission is set to approve the site's redevelopment plan next Wednesday.

At the same time, Crescent Electric Supply Co., at 1466 N.W. Naito Parkway, will move this summer to a Northwest Yeon Avenue site as its property owners, Summit Properties, of Portland, mull the site's redevelopment options. Jenny Collins, Crescent's district operations manager, said the choices include new condominiums.

"I don't think it will remain a warehouse," she said with a laugh.

Then there's Fremont Place, the office building at 1750 N.W. Naito Parkway developed by John Carroll in the 1980s and now owned by the San Francisco-based McMorgan & Company.

The owners are considering whether to redevelop the site once Centennial Mill's work begins, said Lana Baldock, a Portland-based Cushman & Wakefield senior director who leases the office's space.

"Any future redevelopment opportunities would certainly interest them because it could increase the value of the property," said Baldock. "I'd say it's certainly something they'd explore at some point if it were economically feasible."

The newly released North Pearl District Plan, which seeks to guide developments north of Northwest Lovejoy Street and east of Interstate 405, will also spur growth. The plan could lay the groundwork for new Pearl District services such as a public school, a library and a community center.

Any new development in the area would complement other high-profile Pearl projects such as the Brewery Blocks, on West Burnside between Northwest 10th and 12th avenues, and the Portland Armory, at 128 N.W. 11th Ave.

While the sites could require some river clean-up, planners believe properties on both sides of Naito Parkway have excellent mixed-use potential, said Troy Doss a senior city planner. Each of the properties is zoned for mixed-use with an employment emphasis, such as office space.

Such flexibility has developers thinking big. Brad Malsin, owner of Portland-based Beam Development, has explored whether North Pearl's riverfront land could accommodate the company's various progressive-leaning projects.

"We haven't felt the push to go there yet, but there's no question it'll happen," he said. "It's just a question of what the market will support."

Within the area, Malsin envisions flexible workspaces, large artist-oriented studios, traditional offices and residences. A hotel would work in the area, with accompanying retail and restaurants.

"Like the Pearl, it could be very well-balanced between the different kinds of uses," he said.

Edlen, whose firm is known for its green-building initiatives, said the area could become a district onto itself devoted to nurturing the city's sustainability industry. Much of the idea relies on eventually cleaning the abutting river, which would itself serve as a showcase for sustainable concepts.

"Those buildings would have a responsibility to watch what we put into the river and leave behind a lighter footprint," he said. "But that would attract some of these burgeoning companies like Keen Footwear or Icebreaker," a New Zealand outfit that's relocating to Portland.

Neighbors would also welcome more activity in the district. Patricia Gardner, co-chairwoman of the Pearl District Neighborhood Association's land use committee, believes the area will work well once adjoining properties along the river become better linked to both each other and to the rest of the Pearl through footbridges over Naito Parkway and the Union Station-area railroad tracks.

"Its buildings would have two great views, of the river and of downtown," she said. "It's a great opportunity to activate the river and better activate Naito Parkway."
PDC expected to OK plan

The 145,612-square-foot Centennial Mill redevelopment is a proposal at 1100 N.W. Naito Parkway by Costa Mesa, Calif.-based Lab Holding LLC that would include restaurants, market stalls, retail space, a culinary school, flexible office space, galleries and the Portland Police Department's mounted patrol unit. The site's existing water tower will remain standing.

Portland Development Commission officials chose the Lab proposal over two other finalists, based on whether it could drive future North Pearl river area growth.

"Centennial Mill isn't by itself a standalone product," said Steve Shain, PDC development manager for the River District urban renewal area. "It will have a strong link to the neighborhood."

The Portland Development Commission is set to approve the site's redevelopment plan next Wednesday.

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I changed the name of the thread. This is three stories right?
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no, I think it's two? I'm not positive though.
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I'm basing my guess off this render, looks three to me...anybody know for sure?

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Here is a closeup of the render from their website. I think it is going to be three floors, with ground floor retail.

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I'm pretty sure that it will not have ground floor retail. They are going to occupy 100% of this building - they have over 200 people as it is.
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