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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 2:18 PM
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Appropo of nothing...a friend and I stopped by the Renassaince Hotel Sunday evening and enjoyed dinner, a few drinks, and listened to a great jazz/light funk band out on the patio. The weather was great, the food was good, and the atmosphere was perfect. I actually felt like I was in a city.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 2:24 PM
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that is a site i would love to re-develop with mixed use. think about how neat it would be to have an entirely new neighborhood there. i would gut the old refrigerated warehouse and replace the brick with glass and it could be the central retail an restaurant area. The shed could become the central green space pavilion. You would be in walking distance of the stadium, downtown, the alley, and my personal favorite, the RSA tower()
but seriously, brown field restoration to create the hippest new address in town, other than the Rice Lofts of course.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 2:33 PM
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Appropo of nothing...a friend and I stopped by the Renassaince Hotel Sunday evening and enjoyed dinner, a few drinks, and listened to a great jazz/light funk band out on the patio. The weather was great, the food was good, and the atmosphere was perfect. I actually felt like I was in a city.


Montgomery is seriously on the up swing !!! and what a kool avatar man looks like a Euro city.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 3:12 PM
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but seriously, brown field restoration to create the hippest new address in town, other than the Rice Lofts of course.
hrmmph?!?
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 2:25 AM
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cough-cough...
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 3:04 PM
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saw some sketches for the state house if it gets located at one court square, some were done by Dover-Kohl, the others were by Barganier, Davis Sims I believe. IF it gets built, lets hope the Dover Kohl plan is the one they use. The other plan calls for closing Montgomery Street and blocking it with a ridiculous building that is way out of scale. If I can get my hands on the sketches i'll try to post them.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 3:12 PM
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Wouldn't closing off Montgomery St. basically undo what they just did in opening up Court?
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 3:18 PM
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is this the set-up that DoverKohl showed?



and a little tighter on the detail.



It's what they showed way back when.

Something like this would be a great addition to the city.

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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 5:14 PM
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no thats not what they showed. Those were just fill buildings to show what would be possible there. They did show the building in that location though.

Anyone wanna go to the Cirque Des Amis tonight? I got an extra free ticket.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 7:42 PM
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Anyone wanna go to the Cirque Des Amis tonight? I got an extra free ticket.
hock it..... it's a sold out show according to the Advertiser.

BTW, I need to talk to you about architects
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 8:27 PM
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hock it..... it's a sold out show according to the Advertiser.

BTW, I need to talk to you about architects
I have to GRIN at the Montgomery Advertiser comment and take it with a big grain of salt. I was at the Rodeo last night and the crowd was OK, but certainly not close to a sell out. Well, in today's Montgomery Advertiser they said... "The Coliseum was almost to capacity with spectators to watch the first round of the rodeo."

All of this is good for a Friday afternoonchuckle...
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2008, 9:40 PM
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saw some sketches for the state house if it gets located at one court square, some were done by Dover-Kohl, the others were by Barganier, Davis Sims I believe. IF it gets built, lets hope the Dover Kohl plan is the one they use. The other plan calls for closing Montgomery Street and blocking it with a ridiculous building that is way out of scale. If I can get my hands on the sketches i'll try to post them.

You must get your hands on those sketches...particularly the one of the building that's way out of scale....

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Old Posted Mar 8, 2008, 4:43 AM
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just got back from the Performing Arts Center seeing the Cirque Des Amis. It was a nice venue and I sat in the nosebleeds about four rows from the very top. I could still see well and enjoyed the show and talked with David Bronner and the Mayor briefly.
You guys missed some good food at the free reception right before, scallops, prime rib, and lamb, plus plenty of desserts.
Once again, Montgomery looked like a big city tonight.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2008, 2:18 AM
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It's time for a multi-purpose ARENA!

Garrett Coliseum 'bleeding to death'

By Jill Nolin
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State Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks is calling on the state Legislature to either give him more funding for Garrett Coliseum or allow him to create his own stream of revenue.

Sparks said renovating the aging building, which was opened in 1951 with a Hank Williams performance, is at the top of his list of priorities.

"If I had the ability to create a revenue stream, I'd create it," Sparks said Friday. "We have a facility out there that is absolutely bleeding to death and is on a respirator."

Garrett Coliseum, on the north side of Montgomery, is hailed as the Alabama agricultural center but Sparks said it has been largely neglected. He added that instead of helping, the state Legislature has cut the budget for the facility.

"We are losing shows in Montgomery," Sparks said. "People don't want to bring their animals to Montgomery, Alabama, with the condition of the stalls and the condition of the facility. We're so far behind Georgia and Mississippi it's embarrassing."

Sparks said the current livestock stalls are in such poor condition that animals are at risk of being injured -- and some have been.

The stalls need to be cleaned and renovated, he said.

He also said a multipurpose building is also needed to be competitive for livestock shows and that it's something that could complement the new convention center in downtown Montgomery.

On top of that, Sparks said the whole 31,000-square-foot facility, which has seating for 13,500 people, needs a complete face lift. But he's not likely to get any new funding from the Legislature this year. State Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said that budget shortfall would not allow the Legislature to use any General Fund dollars for such a project. Holmes said he would be in favor of giving Sparks the authority to generate new revenue. "At this time, due to the shortage in the budget, that would be the appropriate way to go," Holmes said Friday. "I would be against taking any money from the general fund until we have met the needs of the Medicaid program." Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright said Friday that Garrett Coliseum had an important economic impact on the city of Montgomery, with shows and events bringing people to the Capital City. Although he said he would not be in favor of providing financial support for the project, he said he would be willing to contribute in-kind work. Bright said the financial responsibility should fall on the state Legislature. Sparks said that he has tried to make improvements with his current funding but has not gotten anywhere. "I've invested thousands of dollars down there and it doesn't look like you've done anything," he said. A multipurpose building would also allow the coliseum to hold several shows at once, Sparks said. Right now, the facility can accommodate only one show at a time.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2008, 6:00 AM
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just got back from the Performing Arts Center seeing the Cirque Des Amis. It was a nice venue and I sat in the nosebleeds about four rows from the very top. I could still see well and enjoyed the show and talked with David Bronner and the Mayor briefly.
You guys missed some good food at the free reception right before, scallops, prime rib, and lamb, plus plenty of desserts.
Once again, Montgomery looked like a big city tonight.
I passed through downtown Friday night and saw the all the lights jumping on the hotel and the Performing Arts Center. It was pretty cool!
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2008, 6:17 AM
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Garrett Coliseum 'bleeding to death'

By Jill Nolin
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State Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks is calling on the state Legislature to either give him more funding for Garrett Coliseum or allow him to create his own stream of revenue.

Sparks said renovating the aging building, which was opened in 1951 with a Hank Williams performance, is at the top of his list of priorities.

"If I had the ability to create a revenue stream, I'd create it," Sparks said Friday. "We have a facility out there that is absolutely bleeding to death and is on a respirator."

Garrett Coliseum, on the north side of Montgomery, is hailed as the Alabama agricultural center but Sparks said it has been largely neglected. He added that instead of helping, the state Legislature has cut the budget for the facility.

"We are losing shows in Montgomery," Sparks said. "People don't want to bring their animals to Montgomery, Alabama, with the condition of the stalls and the condition of the facility. We're so far behind Georgia and Mississippi it's embarrassing."

Sparks said the current livestock stalls are in such poor condition that animals are at risk of being injured -- and some have been.

The stalls need to be cleaned and renovated, he said.

He also said a multipurpose building is also needed to be competitive for livestock shows and that it's something that could complement the new convention center in downtown Montgomery.

On top of that, Sparks said the whole 31,000-square-foot facility, which has seating for 13,500 people, needs a complete face lift. But he's not likely to get any new funding from the Legislature this year. State Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said that budget shortfall would not allow the Legislature to use any General Fund dollars for such a project. Holmes said he would be in favor of giving Sparks the authority to generate new revenue. "At this time, due to the shortage in the budget, that would be the appropriate way to go," Holmes said Friday. "I would be against taking any money from the general fund until we have met the needs of the Medicaid program." Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright said Friday that Garrett Coliseum had an important economic impact on the city of Montgomery, with shows and events bringing people to the Capital City. Although he said he would not be in favor of providing financial support for the project, he said he would be willing to contribute in-kind work. Bright said the financial responsibility should fall on the state Legislature. Sparks said that he has tried to make improvements with his current funding but has not gotten anywhere. "I've invested thousands of dollars down there and it doesn't look like you've done anything," he said. A multipurpose building would also allow the coliseum to hold several shows at once, Sparks said. Right now, the facility can accommodate only one show at a time.
Ron Sparks seems like he really is serious about the doing something about this embarrassment of a facility. Yes, a new arena is needed, period. But even an upgrade at this point would do wonders.

If Sparks can pull this off and get this thing going, he could be one of the only Ag commissioners that most people will actually know and remember who he was.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2008, 5:42 PM
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FYI, FWIW, work has begun on the Coosa St. parking deck.
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Ron Sparks seems like he really is serious about the doing something about this embarrassment of a facility. Yes, a new arena is needed, period. But even an upgrade at this point would do wonders.

If Sparks can pull this off and get this thing going, he could be one of the only Ag commissioners that most people will actually know and remember who he was.
Sparks has his eye on the Governor's Mansion (Garden District or out East ) so any publicity and action can only help him in the long run...
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saw some sketches for the state house if it gets located at one court square, some were done by Dover-Kohl, the others were by Barganier, Davis Sims I believe. IF it gets built, lets hope the Dover Kohl plan is the one they use. The other plan calls for closing Montgomery Street and blocking it with a ridiculous building that is way out of scale. If I can get my hands on the sketches i'll try to post them.
I like the thought of replacing One Court Square with a decent building, but closing Montgomery Street? What a bonehead idea.

Are legislators considering building on that mammoth parking lot behind the current state house? A massive parking deck could be wrapped with liner buildings and kill more than 2 birds with one stone.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2008, 1:56 PM
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I like the thought of replacing One Court Square with a decent building, but closing Montgomery Street? What a bonehead idea.

Are legislators considering building on that mammoth parking lot behind the current state house? A massive parking deck could be wrapped with liner buildings and kill more than 2 birds with one stone.
I'd prefer the Court Square location. Bring some life back to the lower end of Dexter. With Colonial gone, and the 2 Regions buildings (3 if you count the recently empty one on Washington) running on nearly empty, it can be pretty dead down there.
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