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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 3:31 PM
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Predominantly white areas don't often elect black officials. It is obvious there are still racial tensions about. This is why the South has the reputation it does.

Disgusting.
Well then how do you explain the fact that Shirley Franklin garnered 93% of the vote in her re-election bid? She got almost ALL of the white vote.

I find blanket statements such as yours disgusting. If you think racial tensions are somehow owned by the South, you really need to get out of the region and travel some. I can assure you we are in much, much better shape than large portions of the country - including some of our so called "premiere" cities that look down their noses at the South.
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That statement above is absolutely true. I travel to a lot of different states and cities pretty frequently. I am constantly amazed at how other areas of the country are much more prone to "racist" behavior than the south might be. My guess is that it is because some areas of the country just don't have a lot of minorities, so they haven't had to deal with it on the same level as you might if you live in the south? I have spent a lot of time in the midwest, including living here for about 5 years now, and there are so few minorities in any of the areas that I have been, that you almost forget about racial tensions.

There might still be some of the biggest problems in the south, but I also think the south has come the farthest and has some of the best progress.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 4:02 PM
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I really dont think racism is that big of a problem. I've noticed that usually old people bring it up... constantly, while young people don't. Eventually when all of the old people die off it'll be gone.

Obama is even going to be our next president!
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The whole race thing is so 2000s.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 4:56 PM
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Predominantly white areas don't often elect black officials. It is obvious there are still racial tensions about. This is why the South has the reputation it does.

Disgusting.
I could almost agree with you but this comment doesn't take into account the relative merits of competing candidates. Shouldn't we vote based on merits and not focus on color? How can you prove that white areas elect based on color and not merit? I agree with atlantaguy, making blanket statements like this are disgusting and only propagate racial tensions. You're making accusations without evidence to back it up so it's just an opinion. And it's a racist opinion portraying "white areas" as racist areas so how does this help anything?

Giving someone a free card because of their skin color is wrong.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 7:33 PM
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Well then how do you explain the fact that Shirley Franklin garnered 93% of the vote in her re-election bid? She got almost ALL of the white vote.

I find blanket statements such as yours disgusting. If you think racial tensions are somehow owned by the South, you really need to get out of the region and travel some. I can assure you we are in much, much better shape than large portions of the country - including some of our so called "premiere" cities that look down their noses at the South.
Hah, I don't even know if I should respond to this one. I'll just retract my statement.

I must mention that I only moved to the South in 2003 and I've moved over a dozen times in my life. I'm not calling whites racist or blacks racist or singling out anyone. I'm just tireed of dealing with the disgusting nature of US and in fact worldwide race relations and I'm a bit bitter about it. My (ex?) best friend recently decided that black people were wholly inferior and I still haven't gotten over it. Don't mind me.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2008, 7:35 PM
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I could almost agree with you but this comment doesn't take into account the relative merits of competing candidates. Shouldn't we vote based on merits and not focus on color? How can you prove that white areas elect based on color and not merit? I agree with atlantaguy, making blanket statements like this are disgusting and only propagate racial tensions. You're making accusations without evidence to back it up so it's just an opinion. And it's a racist opinion portraying "white areas" as racist areas so how does this help anything?

Giving someone a free card because of their skin color is wrong.
Not advocating anyone get a free card but I think you know that. I just wish it wasn't an issue. I'm sick of defending my intelligence and merits as an individual to people I meet.
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Sure they do, Fiorenza. Look at who handles the city's big ticket items like bond work, banking and finance, insurance, airport construction, water/sewer rehabilitation, urban planning, etc.

The argument by whites that everything should be "color blind" is an essence the argument that dominance by whites (often to the exclusion of others) should be continued. That was the rallying cry of segregationists back in the 1960s and 70s. The courts basically said, "Hey, we're not that dumb," in that a "race neutral" policy is simply a way of maintaining the bias in favor of the dominant socioeconomic (and ethnic) group.
Andrea, your premise assumes that people are racially motivated, which I believe is true. Fiorenza's point is that people should not be racially motivated thereby eliminating the need for reverse discrimination, which you support.
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I was in Atlanta over the weekend for a clinical skills exam and I was really impressed at the improvements at the airport( I usually drive from Dayton to Atlanta). The concourses seemed brighter and cleaner than I previously remembered and the bathrooms were actually clean enough to use without closing your eyes and holding your breath. I also saw several airline employees picking up trash as they were walking through the concourses. As much as people on this board love to B**** about Hartsfield, I'm always impressed at it's ease of use and efficiency. Only if the GDOT could be this efficient, not only would we have the worlds' busiest airport to brag about but we would also be able to boast about our world class transportation system. Maybe it's just me but it seems the people of metro Atlanta are quick to question ones competency when it comes to the city of Atlanta and the operation of the airport, but when it comes to the political appointments of Governor Perdue to the GDOT and their annual abuse of the budget , no one seems to say a word. Hey what do I know, maybe I'm naive and have failed to realize this is how things are suppose to be.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2008, 11:10 PM
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You're right, W. The airport has improved tremendously. I have to pass through LGA periodically - the restrooms there are small, and reek. We are lucky in Atlanta to have such a clean facility.

At this time, I think the main issues in Atlanta are street surfaces, obsolete traffic signals, poor maintenance of street lights and rights of way, and not quickly removing graffiti. With the budget shortfall I don't imagine things will get much better anytime soon.
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As much as people on this board love to B**** about Hartsfield, I'm always impressed at it's ease of use and efficiency.
I agree. I've never had a bad experience with ATL. Much preferred over ORD. I'll be back through ATL in May & June.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 4:31 AM
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I miss flying in and out of Atlanta constantly. I miss it a lot. It's my favorite airport and always has been.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 4:40 AM
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Yeah, I remember ATL being very busy and clean. The subway under the airport was packed.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 2:37 PM
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I was in Atlanta over the weekend for a clinical skills exam and I was really impressed at the improvements at the airport( I usually drive from Dayton to Atlanta). The concourses seemed brighter and cleaner than I previously remembered and the bathrooms were actually clean enough to use without closing your eyes and holding your breath. I also saw several airline employees picking up trash as they were walking through the concourses. As much as people on this board love to B**** about Hartsfield, I'm always impressed at it's ease of use and efficiency. Only if the GDOT could be this efficient, not only would we have the worlds' busiest airport to brag about but we would also be able to boast about our world class transportation system. Maybe it's just me but it seems the people of metro Atlanta are quick to question ones competency when it comes to the city of Atlanta and the operation of the airport, but when it comes to the political appointments of Governor Perdue to the GDOT and their annual abuse of the budget , no one seems to say a word. Hey what do I know, maybe I'm naive and have failed to realize this is how things are suppose to be.

In Perdue's defense (I don't even know why I'm saying this), he did support the new GDOT commissioner who is coming in and cleaning house and bringing accountability to the department.
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In Perdue's defense (I don't even know why I'm saying this), he did support the new GDOT commissioner who is coming in and cleaning house and bringing accountability to the department.
Yeah, the only smart thing he had done so far for the last 6 years.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 3:33 PM
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You Democrats with positive things to say about DOT reform...it's nice to see that you now approve of Gena Abraham, given that all the Democrat DOT board members voted against her and for the old-boy status quo candidate!
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 3:41 PM
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^It's not democrat vs. republican, it's good management vs. bad management.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2008, 4:34 PM
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I agree, but evidently those Democratic DOT Board members want to keep trading favors.
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Yeah, I remember ATL being very busy and clean. The subway under the airport was packed.
That "subway" is actually the busiest people-mover in North America, getting over 100,000 riders a day.
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