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Old Posted Mar 1, 2008, 5:47 AM
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Anyone else think so?
Ha! That's an interesting observation, but aside from them both having jail cells and a similar color, I think they'll end up looking more different than alike. The LAPD HQ will look lighter and more open from three sides - 2nd, Main and 1st streets - primarily because those facades will be dominated by glass. But there are some similarities along the Spring St. side. It's kind of funny that it turns it's most "closed" side to the LA Times building. I'll bet the architectural reviews from the Times will make a point of complaining about that...
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From LA Downtown News:

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L.A. CENTRAL

The approximately $1 billion, L.A. Live-adjacent project received city approvals in January. New York-based developer the Moinian Group is now in the process of securing funding, said the company's Oskar Brecher. Though Brecher said groundbreaking is expected by the fall, he would not reveal financial details. The development at Figueroa and 11th streets would include 53- and 37-story towers with a total of 860 studio, one- and two-bedroom condominiums averaging 1,000 square feet. The project would also include 250,000 square feet of retail space, including a high-end grocery store, restaurants and a health club, and a boutique hotel with 222 rooms. In lieu of including an affordable component, the developer is setting aside funds for up to 172 units of low-income housing to be built elsewhere. B9
I missed this the first time I read it, but didn't LA Central obtain approval last year when they put up the fence and fooled us into believing that ground-breaking was near?
     
     
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It says so on the front page of the thread, doesn't it?

BTW, how old is that article?
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News Highlights of the Week: February 23 – February 29, 2008
February 29, 2008
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Development in downtown Los Angeles seems to be grinding to a halt, reports the Los Angeles Times. Some 110 residential projects are proposed for the area, and more than a third of them are delayed due to the plunging real estate market, escalating construction costs and an overall shaky economy. On-hold projects include the Frank Gehry-designed $3-billion Grand Avenue complex and the $1-billion Park Fifth condo towers, “which would be the tallest residential complex west of Chicago,” according to the article. “I have the feeling that this is not a good time to be building skyscrapers, in L.A. or anywhere,” Peter Slatin of the real estate Web site, TheSlatinReport.com, told The Architect’s Newspaper. According to the National Association of Realtors, U.S. condo sales were down by about 11 percent in 2007, while residential construction dropped by almost 17 percent.
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It says so on the front page of the thread, doesn't it?

BTW, how old is that article?


This is from the "Developments Update" article just released.

I know the front page has that LA Central was approved, as I believe it has been that way for some time now. I'm questioning why the article said it was approved in January? What I really want to know is if anyone has some information on some recent possible changes.
     
     
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The only change in LA Central we've seen is the "Morley Builders" sign come down. LA Central has probably lost financing.
     
     
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This is from the "Developments Update" article just released.

I know the front page has that LA Central was approved, as I believe it has been that way for some time now. I'm questioning why the article said it was approved in January? What I really want to know is if anyone has some information on some recent possible changes.
I recall most of the internet timeline although that doesn't always match reality. It was reported somewhere on this site that it was approved, but when the fence went up someone posted on Curbed that it hadn't yet received final approval from the city. And then there were posted signs stating that there was some sort of public meeting regarding the project in December. I think that the Downtown News article is most likely correct.
     
     
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Note the words On-Hold in the article I posted, guys. I think it's pretty clear there has been widespread confusion among papers and news about the status of these projects.
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I took a nice looooong walk today, from 2nd and Main to 12th and Grand and back to the 101. But that's nothing compared to the people who ran the LA Marathon today. Pictures of Ritz Carlton, 717 Flower, Concerto and LAPD HQ are in their respective threads.


Hanover Tower

Getting very close. You can see they've painted more towards the top. This makes me think they're not going to paint the very top white. The beige-ish color they have now looks unfinished to me, but what do I know?



The base is getting close too. Note the grates installed just to the right of the corner signage. They give the podium a much cleaner look.




Evo

From the Flower Street Blue Line station, which was absolutely packed after the Laker game.



The other side. They've installed mesh panels on the first 12 floors or so.



Closer on the mesh panels.




LA Live

The ESPN Building from 11th and Figueroa. Note the different fenestration of the glass directly in the center.



The Grammy Museum/Club Nokia building, from Fig and Olympic. Complete with lens flare...




San Pedro Apartments (Little Tokyo Block 8)

From the roof of the LA Times parking garage on Spring. Those are the first columns above ground.




LAUSD High School No. 9

One of my favorite projects in the city.




And a bonus shot...

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awesome update, colemonkee!

And god, seriously a big blank wall on the corner of olympic and fig? What do the developers of LA live have agaisnt intersections!?
     
     
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Greeting All

Here are some photos of the Medallion.

















Next up, the Police Parking lot.
What's behind the green fence?
























And finally a few shots of the LAPD headquarters.








That's it for now.
     
     
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awesome update, colemonkee!

And god, seriously a big blank wall on the corner of olympic and fig? What do the developers of LA live have agaisnt intersections!?
I could be wrong here, but I doubt it. I believe they have absolutely nothing against intersections. This intersection is, and will be even more so, an extremely high traffic one, and the "blank walls" will leverage that fact to the hilt. They're pretty much guaranteed to receive massive advertisement banners, that's why they were designed in.
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And a bonus shot...

Great update, colemonkee! ^And a magnificent shot of City Hall from the base of the DeathStar.
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I'm guessing this deepest pit section might be the elevator mechanicals/utility room. What say you, colemonkee?
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Thanks for the photos, colemonkee. Those of us who aren't able to make it out to downtown that often miss out on all of the little details that you are able to update us with. Appreciate it, man.
     
     
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LA Live looks a lot bigger in scale with people surrounding it like ants.
     
     
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I'm guessing this deepest pit section might be the elevator mechanicals/utility room. What say you, colemonkee?
I'd say that's a good assumption. Looks like slow going at the Medallion. But this phase of a project is usually the slowest part. Thanks for the pics, petescafe.

LA Live is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 ft. tall. So while it's not tall by any means from a skyline perspective, it certainly makes you look up when you walk by it.
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I could be wrong here, but I doubt it. I believe they have absolutely nothing against intersections. This intersection is, and will be even more so, an extremely high traffic one, and the "blank walls" will leverage that fact to the hilt. They're pretty much guaranteed to receive massive advertisement banners, that's why they were designed in.
You are right. It is for advertising, as shown on the first page.


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Great shots Colemonkee! Here is a different angle of the glass on the ESPN(sorry for the shadows). It looks very much like the glass on the Nokia Theater. I assume they will have the animated lighting scheme in the ESPN like the Nokia.

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Here are a few from the LA Marathon.



     
     
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A fickle economy, rising construction costs, and skittish buyers are just a few of the factors that have slowed the frenzied development in downtown Los Angeles to a crawl. But as two of the area’s largest planned projects—Frank Gehry and the Related Companies’ $3 billion Grand Avenue Project and the $1 billion Park Fifth condo towers—failed to break ground as expected during the last few months, and as several smaller projects went under, hushed conversations between architects, developers, and real estate agents persist in the shadows of half-finished skyscrapers: Is downtown’s rally over?

“I have the feeling that this is not a good time to be building skyscrapers, in LA or anywhere,” said Peter Slatin of the real estate website TheSlatinReport.com (and AN contributor). “It’s risky to start building into a market that’s starting to decline without knowing how long the decline will last.” According to the National Association of Realtors, U.S. condo sales were down by about 11 percent in 2007, while residential construction dropped by almost 17 percent. According to most projections the numbers aren’t expected to improve this year.

Although materials prepared last year for Grand Avenue (which would include 19- and 48-story towers and a 16-acre park) indicated that Phase I of the scheme was scheduled to begin construction last October, that date has now been pushed to this summer. Karen Diehl, a representative from Related, said that updates are being made to the design documents and, despite reports to the contrary, groundbreaking was never set to happen. “We’ve never set a groundbreaking date and at present it is expected sometime this summer,” she said. According to Diehl, an existing parking structure on the site needs to be stripped of its lead paint first, then will be demolished in “the next few months” so construction can begin. Meanwhile, reports that Related had not yet secured a construction loan spurred rumors that the mixed-use project was short on financing.

Groundbreaking for the 76- and 41-story towers of Park Fifth, once scheduled for the first quarter of 2008, has been pushed back to the third quarter. After reported staffing and investor shakeups, spokesperson Stephanie Holbrook now blames bureaucracy. “Park Fifth does not expect to have final entitlements for the project until the end of May,” she said. “Until these formalities are finalized, one would not start construction of a major project.” While the project was also rumored to have major financing issues, Holbrook said that financing is in place to move forward.

“Park Fifth was never a brilliantly-conceived project to begin with,” Slatin said of what he thought was the building’s inability to relate to its surrounding neighborhood near Pershing Square. But for Grand Avenue, he thinks the perceived inability to sell its 390 residential units is mostly due to Gehry himself. “They wholeheartedly bought into the idea that good architecture is added value but went with an architect who is not always the greatest fit for residential design,” said Slatin. “You have to find a lot of people who are willing to take that perceived risk for an apartment that’s kind of quirky.”

And a slew of projects on the way have endured similar delays or changes. The Parkside Tower, a 35-story mixed-use property downtown, has declared it has “no financing to move forward.” The Mill Street Lofts by Linear City—developer of the successful Toy Factory and Biscuit Company Lofts—is delayed until at least the fall. The Old Union Bank Building and the Blossom Plaza in China Plaza both recently switched from condos to rentals. Last May, the New York hotelier Gansevoort yanked its plans for “Gansevoort West,” leaving its developer, Chetrit Group, without a hotel partner.

“The capital and credit markets are extremely challenging right now,” said Jim Atkins, a principal with The South Group, a Portland-based developer that has three residential projects in downtown LA: Elleven, Luma, Evo (still under construction), and South Figueroa (now on hold). “That’s brought investment in new condo projects to a halt. You don’t have to be an expert to know that there’s a lot of instability and that we’re facing losses and problems.”

Timing, he noted, is what seems to separate the sturdy from the worried. Those who offered presales and secured financing a year or two ago did so during a robust economy. The slowing means that potential buyers today aren’t as likely to jump at a presale, which further impairs financing for any project with a residential component, said Atkins. For example, the 19-story Luma property had many buyers fall out of escrow before it opened in July. But they were able to resell those units as the property got closer to completion.

“Buyers feel that if they buy today, the price might go down tomorrow,” he said. “There’s no incentive to buy six to nine months out anymore.” Their Evo project will be one of 2008’s largest debuts in a market many consider glutted. But Atkins says traffic to their sales office is good—relatively. “There’s still quite a bit of demand,” he said. “But there’s not as much as there was a few years ago.”

http://www.archpaper.com/news/2008_0226.htm
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Will Fashion Week Move Downtown?
APPAREL: Pressure mounts to bring event closer to industry.
3/3/2008

When the Mercedes-Benz Los Angeles Fashion Week opens this weekend, the models will walk down the runways in their usual setting – the somewhat industrial area of Culver City. But pressure is building to move the waning event to downtown Los Angeles.

“L.A. Fashion Week needs to be in Los Angeles. If you have a Los Angeles Fashion Week, why would you have it in Culver City?” asked Cynthia Ruiz, the head of Voices of Fashion, a city-run advisory group that is turning up the heat for the event to defect to the Los Angeles Fashion District.

While the owners of the event, Smashbox Studios of Culver City and IMG Fashion of New York, said they have not made any commitments, they admitted to being at least open to the prospect of producing the event downtown.

“We are always looking for new locations,” said Zach Eichman, the vice president of public relations for IMG Fashion.

Third-generation Angeleno and co-founder of Smashbox Studios, Davis Factor, expressed ambivalence about moving the event, which is held in a series of tents at his venue.

“Logistically, the center of town would be best,” he said. “Although all the showrooms are downtown, it’s not where most people live.”

Voices of Fashion argues that designers and buyers would benefit from a move to the heart of the Los Angeles fashion industry.

“Culver City is not accessible for buyers – make it in downtown Los Angeles,” said Janine Blaine, the director of the West Coast branch of the Doneger Group, a New York-based retail consultant. “The venue and quality of the shows have not attracted West Coast designers. And unfortunately we have lost many great California designers to the New York show.”

Blaine points to the defection of Los Angeles-based designers Jenni Kayne and BCBG to the New York Fashion Week show.

Fashion Week, staged in the fall and the spring, lets designers strut their creations to the media and high-end buyers. However, several participants have complained about various aspects, such as the lack of many high-end designers and less interest in the event than the similar shows in New York and Miami. That’s why there’s an impetus to experiment with ways to enhance the show.

One such impetus would be to cater more to buyers, the ones who purchase apparel for boutiques and even high-end department stores. Now, the show is aimed at the media.

“Bringing Fashion Week to downtown Los Angeles would be a big plus to buyers and make the experience a much more buyer-friendly one,” said Kent Smith, the executive director of the L.A. Fashion District.

But Factor, Eichman and several others said that catering to buyers would miss the point of L.A. Fashion Week.

“It’s not all about buyers,” said Factor. “Fashion shows are not buying houses.”
So what do fashion designers gain by participating in L.A. Fashion Week?

“The opportunity to get their name out there and receive a lot of press. Their collections will be photographed by a hundred photographers and give their sales people beautiful photographs,” Factor explained. “It gives artists the chance to show their creativity and art.”

Defector alert

Los Angeles-based designer Sue Wong said the publicity she received by participating in Fashion Week was enormous. Wong, renowned for her regal and eye-catching evening gowns, nabbed a spot as a judge on CW’s America’s Top Model after one of its producers attended the launch of her collection at Smashbox Studios.

A glittery cadre of stars and starlets sport Wong’s designs, including Jessica Biel, Tyra Banks, Miley Cyrus and Vanessa Williams.

Yet, Wong is not on the upcoming Fashion Week line-up. Instead, Wong plans to unveil her fall 08’ collection, called “Opulent Restraint,” at her landmark Los Feliz estate, The Cedars, where Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan and other legends once resided.

“Designers are trying to spin tale because they are frustrated with the Mercedes-Benz show,” Blaine said.

In fact, Wong’s decision illustrates another force that is pushing the show out of Culver City. There is nothing to prevent a competing fashion show from popping up, and if enough designers defect, that could happen, several said.

For that matter, downtown’s California Market Center is expanding to accommodate more fashion shows, and it could become a venue for Fashion Week or any other fashion show.

The 13-story market center, owned by Jamison Properties, boasts of 1,000 showrooms and nearly 10,000 product lines, according to its spokesperson.

Regardless, the L.A. Fashion Week that begins March 9 will be in Culver City. Thereafter, it’s a little less certain. No plans have been set for next year.

“As a matter of business, we are always looking for other locations and we have a number of staff meetings with groups to explore locations in Los Angeles,” Eichman said.
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