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Asked about weaknesses uncovered by The News in the plans for rebuilding Ground Zero, Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne said, "The NYPD has been in talks with the Port Authority, but we don't disclose any information about possible security vulnerabilities for obvious reasons."
That's exactly right. I don't understand this obsession in the media.
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Yet another point for terrorists. Their very name suggests that their goal is to settle fear in people's minds. Seeing how some influential figures are still on the edge over these things to such a great extent, seems like the terrorists are still getting their job done long after the attack.
     
     
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One has to remember that any bureaucracy is primarily concerned, first and foremost, with self-protection. Just like the FDA will hold up a new drug for years and years because it is safer for it to let thousands die in the meantime than take a chance that a handful might die because of the drug, the NYPD has NO incentive to take anything OTHER than the most bleak view - and make the most extreme recommendations - possible. After all, they have NOTHING to lose by forcing the bases to all become fortresses... and EVERYTHING to lose if one day a bomber strikes again.

That's why reasonable people have to take their recommendations with a grain of salt.
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CITY MOVES TOWARD LOCATING AGENCIES AT NEW WTC
Deal gives Ground Zero developer Silverstein a choice to lock the city into a 15-year lease for space in one of the new World Trade Center towers.





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City Limits WEEKLY #628
February 25, 2008

It's nice to have options, and the city last week offered some details on the one it has given to Ground Zero developer Larry Silverstein—a choice to lock the city into a 15-year lease for nearly 600,000 square feet in one of the new World Trade Center towers, for a total price tag of $577 million.

The city granted the option in September 2006, as part of a deal with the Port Authority, New York state and Silverstein Properties over control of the WTC site. But ahead of a contract hearing on Wednesday about the lease, the city revealed new details on the deal's scope, duration, escalating rent and total bill. The city would occupy 581,642 square feet – comprising all of the 7th through 21st floors of Tower 4 – and would pay rent beginning at $56.50 per square foot, rising each year for the next five years and then jumping again in the 10th year of the lease to $73.21 per square foot.

What the city didn't reveal is which agencies will use the space, because they don’t know yet. Indeed, while the city leases some 22.5 million square feet of space around the city each year, the Tower 4 deal is unique: It applies to a building that doesn’t exist yet, provides space that has no identified need and probably wouldn't be used until 2013.

That's if the lease ever takes effect. Silverstein has until the end of 2009 to execute his option and make the lease binding. Leases on Class A office space in Lower Manhattan went for an average of $53 at the end of last year, but the price had increased 17 percent just over the course of 2007. Since Silverstein's most recent leases at his rebuilt 7WTC are closing at a reported $70 a square foot, the developer might decide that the city's deal is too cheap.
"The cost per square foot that the city is paying is well below market for Class A space and especially new space downtown," says Dara McQuillan, a spokesperson for Silverstein Properties. On the other hand against a backdrop of a softening national and local economy what the city’s deal lacks in lucre it makes up for it in certainty.

But what the city's lease lacks in lucre it makes up for in certainty. It's a sure thing. It's one of several sure things that government agencies have granted the developer.

Silverstein entered into a 99-year lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center in the spring of 2001. After the towers were destroyed, Silverstein received insurance payments of around $5 billion, which he's using to pay for rebuilding and cover his monthly rent to the Port Authority.

Under the 2006 agreement with the city and Port Authority, Silverstein controls construction and leasing for Towers 2, 3 and 4 while the Port Authority has authority over the Freedom Tower and Tower 5. In that deal, the Port Authority agreed to occupy another 600,000 square feet of Tower 4 and move its headquarters there, meaning that the city and Port Authority would inhabit two-thirds of the office space in the 64-story building. The Port Authority finished excavation for Tower 4 – a.k.a. 150 Greenwich Street – on Feb. 17 and turned the site over to Silverstein for construction, which is expected to last through 2011.

The Port Authority has commitments from state and federal agencies for 1 million square feet of the Freedom Tower, about half the building. Brad Maione, a spokesperson for the state Office of General Services, refused to comment on whether any state agencies had actually signed leases. The federal General Services Administration says it is negotiating with the Port Authority for 650,000 feet in the Freedom Tower, most of which will be used by the Department of Homeland Security.

The feds lost a significant amount of office space on September 11: offices for the Customs Service, IRS, Secret Service, Department of Defense, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and, according to some reports, the CIA. New York state lost court and tax department offices. The city, however, had a fairly small presence before the attacks, limited to the single floor of 7WTC where Mayor Rudy Giuliani located his ill-fated emergency command center.

So, if Silverstein executes the option, the city's presence at the WTC site will increase markedly over its pre-Sept. 11 footprint.

That's not a problem for at least some downtown interests. "It's a great thing," says Catherine McVeigh Hughes, who chairs Community Board 1's committee on WTC rebuilding. "For us, whether it's public or private, it's great that people are leasing downtown." While the city's Department of Administrative Services is officially in charge of leasing city office space, the New York City Economic Development Corporation is taking the lead on the Tower 4 deal – a signal that the transaction is as much about boosting the rebuilding process as it is about securing needed space for city offices.

Critics of the original World Trade Center development faulted the towers' dependence on government tenants as evidence of a mismatch between the massive towers and the marketplace for office space. At one point in the 1970s, some 1.5 million square feet – about a fifth – of WTC 1 and WTC 2 were vacant. In the mid-1980s, state agencies occupied at least 57 floors of the two buildings.

But those critics have been absent from any discussion about the city's pending lease deal. Community Board 1 did not weigh in on it, Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer offered no recommendation, and when the City Planning Commission held the land use hearing on it last April, no one testified. At Wednesday's hearing on the contract, there was but one speaker: Kay Dunham, an inveterate gadfly who is often the only attendee or commenter at the city's biweekly contract hearings. Her advice on the Tower 4 deal? "I think they should condo it and see to it that they have something as the years go by."

With rebuilding only recently seeming to gather steam, it's possible that the space won't be ready until even later than 2013. "We have milestones and provisions that protect the city in the event there is a delay in construction. However, we are confident that construction will proceed apace," says Janel Patterson, spokeswoman for the Economic Development Corporation. Once Silverstein is finished building, the city would probably have to do some work to make the space suit its uses – and the city would cover those costs, too. "Like any other tenant, the city will ultimately pay for its improvements. The lease is flexible as to how that cost is spread out over time," Patterson adds.

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Why not add 3 meters to the building. Just one floor. Make this into a real supertall also. Only 10 more feet and it would be a supertall.
     
     
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Only 10 more feet and it would be a supertall.
Actually 25 more feet.
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^ Besides, I don't think they care if this tower reaches 1,000 or not. I'm sure if Silverstein could squeeze more space into the tower, he would. But it wouldn't be for the height.
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^ Besides, I don't think they care if this tower reaches 1,000 or not. I'm sure if Silverstein could squeeze more space into the tower, he would. But it wouldn't be for the height.
Exactly. For what he wants, the height of the building is the last thing on his mind. As long as it can generate the revenue he wants based on its size, that his number one priority.

Who knows though, he might just give it a small increase in height for the hell of it down the raod.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2008, 11:16 PM
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Who knows though, he might just give it a small increase in height for the hell of it down the raod.
That's always possible. I think the tower came in at 947 ft when first revealed. And we know he's already played with the possibility of a larger, taller Tower 3 (for Merrill Lynch).
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Towers 3 and 4 To Start Rising at Ground Zero

By PETER KIEFER
March 13, 2008


Construction is finally set to commence on towers 3 and 4 at the World Trade Center site after five years of delay. Developer Larry Silverstein described the start of construction later this month as "nothing short of historic" and added that he was confident that a 2012 completion date for the project can be met.

The $20 billion development has been plagued by a number of setbacks, but is moving forward at a time when other projects are facing budget shortfalls at the city and state level, a drying up of available credit, and uncertainty about the incoming governor, David Paterson.
"We have finally reached the day when we are able to hand the ball to you in the design and construction industry," Mr. Silverstein said yesterday in his first public remarks since the Port Authority handed the excavated sites for the two towers over to him on February 18.

In a speech to members of the New York Building Congress, Mr. Silverstein laid out a detailed construction schedule that will stretch over the next four years. According to the plan, Silverstein Properties will build towers 2, 3, and 4, with all three expected to reach street level in one year. By the middle of 2010, towers 3 and 4 will reach their maximum height, with Tower 2 following in 2011.

The three skyscrapers will offer a total of 7.6 million square feet of office space, which experts say could help alleviate a shortage of space that has plagued the Manhattan market for the last eight years.

The executive vice president of CresaPartners, Robert Stella, said the lack of office space in Manhattan is due in large part to the difficulty of constructing anything new. With vacancy rates at around 6%, demand is still strong, but the softening of the economy makes its difficult to predict Mr. Silverstein's leasing potential, he said.

"Keep in mind those properties won't become available for quite some time," Mr. Stella said. "And it won't be likely that he will be dumping a lot of space onto the market without having lined up an anchor tenant."

Mr. Silverstein has just one anchor tenant lined up, the Port Authority, which has signed a lease to occupy 600,000 square feet in Tower 4. The city also has agreed to lease 600,000 square feet in the tower if Mr. Silverstein cannot find a private tenant to occupy the space.


"There will be significant demand by global corporations for the type of 21st-century office space that Silverstein will offer, but the overall pace of space absorption will be dependent upon economic conditions at time of delivery," the managing director of Real Capital Analytics, Dan Fasulo, said.

Two large cranes are being erected at the site, and contractors will begin test blasting this week. Builders should be "knee deep" in the foundation work by the end of the month, Mr. Silverstein said.

Speaking to reporters after the luncheon, Mr. Silverstein said he was not worried about lining up tenants and speculated that the project's completion date, December 2012, may be a blessing, as he could leapfrog over an economic slowdown.

"Between now and 2011 and 2012 we could be through three more cycles, so it's impossible to tell," he said, referring to his ability to lease out the space. "At the moment we are going through a much more difficult time, and presumably by the time these buildings are done those circumstances will be well be behind us."

The instability in Albany is a concern to developers, as Governor Spitzer, the scion of a large New York real estate family, has been viewed as a friend to the industry. His resignation yesterday and the impending promotion of Mr. Paterson to governor come at a precarious time for the development and construction industries.

Mr. Silverstein said he was sad to see Mr. Spitzer "passing from the scene," but was lighthearted when asked about Mr. Paterson. "First thing I would tell Paterson is that all the agreements have been signed," he joked.
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NEW WTC TOWERS FINALLY UNDER WAY

By TOM TOPOUSIS
March 13, 2008

Construction of two of Ground Zero developer Larry Silverstein's three World Trade Center towers will begin this week when crews start blasting away at bedrock at the recently excavated sites, the developer announced yesterday.

"There has not been this much going on at the site since the cleanup ended in 2002," Silverstein told a luncheon sponsored by the New York Building Congress yesterday.

Silverstein, joined by Port Authority Executive Director Anthony Shorris, said the World Trade Center reconstruction is now throttling up into high gear, with construction beginning on every project within the 16-acre site.

Shorris said that in the coming months, there will be as many as 10,000 construction workers at the site, calling the project "an incredible construction machine."

So far, all the work has been going on 80 feet below street level on bedrock within the World Trade Center's twin bathtubs. But Shorris said the public will begin to see progress in a few months when the Freedom Tower's steel is expected to rise above the street.

By 2010, the Freedom Tower and Silverstein's Tower 3 and Tower 4 between Church and Greenwich streets will have reached their full height. A year later, Silverstein's Tower 2, at the northeastern corner of the site, will top out as well.

"By 2012, it'll all be over but the shouting," Shorris said.

Both Silverstein and Shorris said they expect the World Trade Center reconstruction to continue as planned, even with the departure of Gov. Spitzer and his replacement by Lt. Gov. David Paterson.
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Funny how the NYPD's security concerns were apparantly very quickly and decisively squelched this time around. I think Silverstein just wasn't going to tolerate another lost year.
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Funny how the NYPD's security concerns were apparantly very quickly and decisively squelched this time around. I think Silverstein just wasn't going to tolerate another lost year.
Well more lost time equals more lost in money. I can't blame him for one second though. If these security issues were serious then they should've been brought to attention a while ago.
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Funny how the NYPD's security concerns were apparantly very quickly and decisively squelched this time around.
That's because there really was no issue, when you consider that all of Manhattan could be vulnerable to attack. The fearmongers lost this time around.
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A bit less activity at the site for Tower 3 and Tower 4. Developer Larry Silverstein received the site from the Port Authority in February 2008, and is now doing foundation work.
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