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Old Posted Feb 17, 2008, 3:50 AM
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Are we saying that CO is going to be the survivor in a merger with UA? It would be great, but somehow I doubt it happens like that.
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CO is a vastly superior airline right now compared to UA...

From what i've read, the airbus/boeing compatability issues are not as big of a deal as we might think. Delta does a lot of maintenance for both airline types, as does NW
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2008, 9:37 PM
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Are we saying that CO is going to be the survivor in a merger with UA? It would be great, but somehow I doubt it happens like that.
Yeah, it looks like it. CO's current CEO will be the head of the merged airline company. United's current CEO will have a different position (forgot exactly what it was).
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2008, 3:56 AM
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2008, 6:41 PM
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Delta, Northwest deal looks imminent

By JIM THARPE, RUSSELL GRANTHAM
STAFF REPORT
Published on: 02/19/08

The boards of Delta and Northwest airlines are poised to decide on whether to move forward with a merger, and a Minneapolis-based airline consultant says he expects an announcement of a deal by Thursday.

The New York Times reported that both boards plan an "emergency meeting" Tuesday, at which a deal might be approved. Other reports said the boards will meet Wednesday.

Terry Trippler, the Minneapolis consultant and a widely-quoted fare expert, said he expects the announcement of a deal to create an Atlanta-based mega-airline in the next two days.

"I'm telling people here: "Get over it," Trippler told the AJC Tuesday in a telephone interview. "The Fortune 500 company is gone. The headquarters is gone. The red tail is gone. But the critical thing is the hub, and we will save the hub."

Northwest has its headquarters and main hub in Minneapolis.

Trippler said he expects the announcement to be made in Atlanta, and the new airline to be called Delta.

"It will be one hell of an airline," Trippler said of a merged Delta and Northwest. "It becomes a global airline overnight."

Speculation about an impending merger has increased in recent days.

One potential hitch: the airlines are believed to want their pilot unions to reach agreement on integration before going further.

The AJC last week reported that pilots had agreed on the broad strokes of such a plan, but that details remained to be ironed out. That issue still could delay a board vote.

A Delta-Northwest marriage would create the world's biggest airline and perhaps prompt other mergers that would consolidate the industry.

Georgia politicians say Delta executives have assured them the merged carrier would be headquartered in Atlanta and called Delta. Delta itself has not publicly acknowledged talks with Northwest, but rather has said it is studying strategic alternatives.

Announcement of a deal would not make it final. A merger would have to be approved by the U.S. Department of Justice, a process that could take months, and one whose outcome is far from certain.

Speculation has circulated that a Delta-Northwest pairing would prod rival United Airlines into a run at Continental Airlines, while American Airlines might then be forced to link up with US Airways. That would collapse the six biggest hub-and-spoke carriers into three and could intensify concerns about the effect on competition.
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Officials: Delta-Northwest Deal at Risk
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvT6NX4k_YVkVtwqeij5T_qaczpwD8UU4P3G0

An impasse among pilot negotiators over determining seniority put a $20 billion deal to combine Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. in "serious jeopardy" as the companies' boards prepared to meet Wednesday, two people close to the talks told The Associated Press.
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Typical pilot behavior.
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Renderings of the new terminal design from the AJC.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 7:18 PM
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I wonder if MARTA will be expanded to the new terminal and how that will be done.
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I wonder if MARTA will be expanded to the new terminal and how that will be done.
Perhaps they'll actually build that Hapeville branch of the South Line. That'll get it there.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 7:34 PM
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Ooops. I just saw the map in the compilations thread with the loop at the end of the south line and there's a Jackson Terminal stop. It'll be odd that internanational travelers will stay past several more stations, but I guess it'll work.
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I wonder if MARTA will be expanded to the new terminal and how that will be done.
Its too bad they didn't do the inter-concourse train system right the first time by dual tracking. Trains pull into stations off the main rail leaving the main rail free for express trains from end to end. A train could pass through the airport without people having to go through security until they arrived at the international terminal. People could get off MARTA at the current station and board an international terminal express people mover train.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 8:22 PM
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Passenger perks the buzz of proposed international terminal
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

By Jim Tharpe

You'll get there from a different interstate, and you won't have to recheck your baggage.

Those are two big changes globetrotting travelers will see by 2011 when Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport opens its new international terminal, a soaring glass wing of a building that will cost more than a billion dollars.

The Transportation Committee of the Atlanta City Council on Wednesday will be asked to approve about $1.2 billion for construction of the long-anticipated terminal, which has been discussed since the late 1990s. Roadways, underground trains and other costs will push the cost to about $1.6 billion — twice the original estimate — by the time the terminal opens its 12 new gates in about three years.

Transportation Committee members, who oversee the world's busiest airport, got their first glimpse at new plans for the terminal Wednesday morning.

Fliers will approach the Maynard Holbrook Jackson Jr. International Terminal — named for Atlanta's late mayor — from Interstate 75. And because there is curbside pick-up, arriving international travelers will not have to recheck their bags as they now do.

The current international gate complex, built for the 1996 Olympics, is located on Concourse E, which can only be accessed through the distant main airport terminal off Interstate 85. Arriving international travelers currently have to recheck their bags once they clear U.S. Customs and retrieve them after a train ride or long hike to the main terminal. The baggage recheck system is often cited in surveys as a major complaint by the 86 million people a year who use Hartsfield-Jackson.

The new terminal will have its own gates and parking deck, and will be accessed via I-75. It will be connected to the main terminal through an underground train that connects the new facility and Concourse E, whose gates will be used primarily for domestic flights.

Located near the control tower, the new facility will encompass 1.2 million square feet. Its soaring glass walls with a view of the Atlanta skyline are intended to make a bold statement to arriving passengers.

The design is by Atlanta Gateway Designers, which the city hired after firing the first firm, Leo A Daly, in 2005. At the time the city cited costs and delays. Daly sued the city for damages, and the litigation is still pending.

The new terminal coincides with Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines' push to vastly increase its international business, the most profitable arena for the financially strapped airlines. Delta accounts for more than 70 percent of the airport's business, and has increased its international destinations from Hartsfield-Jackson five fold since 1996. It now serves 81 offshore destinations.

Delta has been a key supporter of the new terminal, but objects to an increase in the construction contingency fund contained in the current proposal. The contingency was $58 million, but has been increased to $168 million .

"The terminal is an important part of our international growth strategy and we are in support of the project and its budget which was approved last year," said Delta spokeswoman Susan Elliott. "Delta does not support the latest proposal calling for a $110 million increase to the contingency fund. This project needs to be managed in a cost effective manner and having an inflated contingency fund does not accomplish that goal."
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 8:42 PM
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According to this article, once the new international terminal opens, Concourse E (which is the current international terminal) will be used primarily for domestic flights. Concourse E has 28 gates. So ATL will go from having 28 international gates to 12?

If they continue to use some gates at Concourse E for international flights, will those passengers still have to re-check their bags, or will the fact that it's connected to the new international terminal (which has curb-side pick-up) eliminate that need?

What will they do with the current customs facility in concourse E?

Also, will the planned South Gate Complex (with up to 70 gates) be called the Hartsfield South Gate Complex? It seems only logical since they're calling the international terminal the Jackson International Terminal.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 9:06 PM
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That will be named the Holbrook South Gate Complex.

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According to this article, once the new international terminal opens, Concourse E (which is the current international terminal) will be used primarily for domestic flights. Concourse E has 28 gates. So ATL will go from having 28 international gates to 12?

If they continue to use some gates at Concourse E for international flights, will those passengers still have to re-check their bags, or will the fact that it's connected to the new international terminal (which has curb-side pick-up) eliminate that need?

What will they do with the current customs facility in concourse E?

Also, will the planned South Gate Complex (with up to 70 gates) be called the Hartsfield South Gate Complex? It seems only logical since they're calling the international terminal the Jackson International Terminal.
Of the international gates in E, I doubt more than 10 of them are used for international arrivals. The new terminal will probably take over that role. E will still be used for more than a few international departures though.
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Plans for the new $1 billion-plus Maynard Jackson International Terminal at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport were unveiled Wednesday, revealing a glass wing design and some radical upgrades.

The 1.2 million-square-foot international terminal will have 12 new international gates (16 domestic) and a 1,100-space parking facility when finished in 2011. Hartsfield-Jackson will have a total of 40 international gates when the new terminal comes online.
International travelers will be pleased to learn the new terminal eliminates the baggage recheck process. Currently, international passengers must claim their luggage, go through U.S. Customs, recheck their luggage and then reclaim it once again. The new terminal will allow international passengers to exit the existing building directly into a general meeting area.

In an interesting traffic twist, the first terminal access to Hartsfield-Jackson via Interstate 75, the east side of the airport, is part of the plan. It will link up with the main terminal at Concourse E via underground train. The new international terminal will also have a two-level roadway system and curb front to separate departing and arriving vehicle traffic.

Atlanta Gateway Designers designed the facility, which features a large glass wall that will give arriving passengers a dramatic view of Atlanta's skyline.

Last year, more than 9 million international travelers came through Hartsfield-Jackson. But more than 13 million international passengers are expected to come through the Maynard Jackson International Terminal by 2015.

The Atlanta City Council's Transportation Committee must approve $1.6 billion to build the new terminal, roadways and underground trains.
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Its too bad they didn't do the inter-concourse train system right the first time by dual tracking. Trains pull into stations off the main rail leaving the main rail free for express trains from end to end. A train could pass through the airport without people having to go through security until they arrived at the international terminal. People could get off MARTA at the current station and board an international terminal express people mover train.
The people mover will connect to the rest of the airport just like the rest of terminals.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2008, 2:39 PM
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The people mover will connect to the rest of the airport just like the rest of terminals.
You missed my point. Dual tracking would be two tracks on each side of the station. A train can bypass any/all stations from end to end, thus allowing express trains for convenience or security purposes.
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