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Old Posted Feb 20, 2008, 9:43 PM
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There was something in the Downtown News about it a few weeks ago. It's the SCI-Arc lot that's owned by Meruelo, who plans to develop the dog park until such time as his Sky Arc towers are built.
     
     
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Thanks RAlossi, that's pretty much what I heard.
     
     
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I'm confused as a dog. What?
What really has me concerned is that I think I actually know what he was talking about.

Anyone wanna wager which will top out first: 717 Flower or Concerto Tower 1? 717 will be taller @ 35 stories (vs. 27 for Concerto), but it has a head start, possibly a smaller floor area and appears to be moving a bit faster. My guess is 717.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2008, 4:59 AM
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In terms of nearby hotel rooms by the Convention Center, L.A. still is lagging behind. Look it up. I didn't make it up. It was even said in the LATimes.
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What really has me concerned is that I think I actually know what he was talking about.

Anyone wanna wager which will top out first: 717 Flower or Concerto Tower 1? 717 will be taller @ 35 stories vs. 27 for Concerto, but it has a head start, possibly a smaller floor area and appears to be moving a bit faster. My guess is 717.
Probably Concerto, due to the fact that as you said, is shorter, along with the fact that Concerto has only taken 6 months to go from the bottom of the foundation to the 3 floor being built as of today.

717 looks like it's smaller in terms of square ft. on some of the floors.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2008, 5:16 AM
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In terms of nearby hotel rooms by the Convention Center, L.A. still is lagging behind. Look it up. I didn't make it up. It was even said in the LATimes.
No need to get defensive.

It's common knowledge L.A. is behind San Diego in this regard. Hell, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere it's well behind Anaheim, too. Now that's truly a sorry state of affairs, indeed.
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^ ^ ^

That's true, Anaheim is ahead of LA; they've been on a hotel boom for a while, with high-end rooms not far from Disneyland in the Platinum Triangle.

As for the residential front, Anaheim appears to be slowing; several weeks ago, the developer announced that he's scrapped a residential complex proposed around Angel Stadium.
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Colemonkee, I think it's time we make an On-Hold category:

herald examiner project on-hold pending market turnaround

by Rich Alossi on February 20, 2008
Despite some recent progress on the legal and planning fronts, Hearst Corporation has decided to place the 600-unit Herald Examiner project on hold until the shaky residential real estate market turns around.

With short- and mid-term outlooks generally poor, it may be several years before we see the dual residential tower project rise. In what has become the new buzzword of 2008, Marty Cepkauskas, Hearst’s director of real estate, says the company is taking a “wait-and-see approach.”

If and when the market does recover, a new development partner and architectural team will be selected for construction and final designs. Original renderings by Morphosis Architects presented two towers that would rise at 11th and Hill, and 12th and Broadway. Those preliminary images were created for the entitlements phase only and are expected to change dramatically when the project moves forward with construction.


A smaller phase of the project includes an adaptive reuse of the historic Herald Examiner Building stretching along Broadway. The building will be refurbished and turned into office space with retail. Those plans could easily take a leap forward if a potential anchor tenant is identified for the 40,000 square-foot space, a strong possibility in Downtown’s improving office environment.

Regarding the residential portion, Hearst Corporation is taking the long view.

“We’ve owned the property for 100 years,” explains Cepkauskas. “We’re just waiting for the market and the right partners.”
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That's true, Anaheim is ahead of LA; they've been on a hotel boom for a while, with high-end rooms not far from Disneyland in the Platinum Triangle.

As for the residential front, Anaheim appears to be slowing; several weeks ago, the developer announced that he's scrapped a residential complex proposed around Angel Stadium.
Yeah. Actually L.A. would have to build a number of Ritz Carlton/Marriots just to break even with either of those competing locales.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2008, 5:42 AM
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Yeah. Actually L.A. would have to build a number of Ritz Carlton/Marriots just to break even with either of those competing locales.
Hence the at the title of the San Diego Thread.
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Anyone wanna wager which will top out first: 717 Flower or Concerto Tower 1? 717 will be taller @ 35 stories (vs. 27 for Concerto), but it has a head start, possibly a smaller floor area and appears to be moving a bit faster. My guess is 717.
Anyone want to wager the Ritz beats em both (being steel consturction this one should fly up) ?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2008, 5:46 PM
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I'm gonna go with 717 Flower topping out first. They have 23 floors left, vs. 25 for Concerto, and they've been moving at about a floor per week lately. But it could be close. As for the Ritz topping out first, probably not, despite the fact it's a steel tower, which usually goes up much faster.

JDR, I'm not creating an "On Hold" category for the front page. What I have done, though, is note in the proposed section which projects are on hold when we get confirmation of sorts.

EDIT: Updated the front page with the new render of San Pedro Apartments (thanks, Angelenic!), and denoted Herald Examiner project as currently on hold.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2008, 7:31 PM
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That is great Colemonkee! Glad to see that you're keeping up on things.
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Exclamation Los Angeles Grand Ave. Gets New Investor!!!


Dubai Royal Family Is New Grand Avenue Plan Investor for
Downtown Los Angeles Project

CalPERS, MacFarlane Partners Replaced in $3 Billion Project


by Anna Scott
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The Related Cos., the developer of the $3 billion Grand Avenue plan, has changed its financial partners, a top company official told Los Angeles Downtown News. While one major investor and its high-profile manager are no longer participating, the royal family of Dubai is on board.
Although a groundbreaking ceremony was recently delayed, Related of California President Bill Witte said the project is still on line to open its first phase in 2011.
Related will seek approvals from city, county and redevelopment officials over the next six weeks for the new investor in its proposed Bunker Hill mega-development. The company secured the new partnership with Istithmar, a sovereign fund controlled by the royal family of Dubai, after its key equity partner, California Public Employees’ Retirement System, pulled out.
CalPERS had invested in the Grand Avenue plan through its San Francisco-based advisor, management investment firm MacFarlane Partners. Last June, MacFarlane joined the Convention Center hotel project being developed by Anschutz Entertainment Group as part of the L.A. Live project.
“We have been working to replace them, even though there was no formal decision made, since early to mid-last year,” Witte said of CalPERS. “We reached agreement with our new equity partner in December.”
After taking several months to finalize the numbers, the new agreement is “completely signed and committed,” he said.
Related expects to receive approvals on its newly cemented partnership from the Community Redevelopment Agency board, the County Board of Supervisors and Grand Avenue Authority by the end of March. As part of the original agreement, Related was required to get new approvals if the major investment partner changed before the end of construction.
Once Istithmar is approved, Related can move forward with demolishing a multi-level parking lot on the project site, across from Walt Disney Concert Hall. That was previously expected to happen this month.
On Monday, Feb. 25, the Grand Avenue Authority is expected to approve design-development drawings from architect Frank Gehry, a key step in shoring up a construction loan.
“Once they approve it, we’re starting work on the final construction documents,” said Witte, “from which the numbers that go into the construction loan will be derived.”
Related is tentatively scheduled to go before the CRA board on March 6, the L.A. County Board of Supervisors on March 11 and the Grand Avenue Authority on March 17 for approval of Istithmar.

Plowing Through
The 3.6 million-square-foot project, officially known as The Grand, is expected to eventually bring 2,600 housing units, 449,000 square feet of retail, a hotel, a grocery store and a health club to Downtown.
The approximately $1 billion, 1.3 million-square-foot first phase of the project, slated for completion in 2011, will include a 48-story Mandarin Oriental Hotel & Residences with 295 rooms and 266 for-sale units, a 19-story residential tower with 126 market-rate apartments and 98 affordable units, a 250,000-square-foot retail pavilion and a 16-acre civic park.
In December, Related began lead paint abatement on the soon-to-be demolished parking garage at Grand Avenue and First Street, where the towers will rise. Construction on the $50 million park is expected to begin in the fall, with an opening slated for 2010. The hotel and retail pavilion are scheduled to debut in early 2011, and the residential towers are expected to open that summer.
Related last month delayed the project’s groundbreaking ceremony for the third time, pushing it from March to an unspecified date this summer. Witte has maintained that the construction schedule remains unaffected.
He said last week that the groundbreaking delays were not connected to the shuffling of investment partners. He stressed that despite missing an initial start date last October, as well as delayed plans from Gehry and legal challenges from the operator of the Westin Bonaventure Hotel (since settled), site work began late last year as planned.
“We knew we couldn’t get financing with the lawsuit outstanding,” said Witte. “But we didn’t slow down at all.… Had we not been able to make a deal on our equity late last year, it would’ve caused a delay, but we did.”

The Road Ahead
Other recent Istithmar investments include the acquisition of the upscale Barneys New York retail chain last year and an interest in two New York hotels developed by Related.
“They’re a huge fund that has invested in real estate all over the U.S.,” said Witte. He added, “They’re just investors. They don’t have any control” over the direction of The Grand.
Related’s previous partner, CalPERS, had invested entirely through MacFarlane Partners, which has had a hand in several Downtown projects including complexes Hikari and Block 8 in Little Tokyo (both from Related), and Forest City’s Met Lofts in South Park. The firm made a splash last summer when it joined AEG in the $900 million Convention Center hotel.
“With the focus during the last quarter of 2007 on the L.A. Live investment, the firm determined for the moment another major investment in Downtown Los Angeles such as Grand Avenue would not be prudent,” said company chairman and CEO Victor MacFarlane in an email last week, while traveling.
With Istithmar committed, Related’s biggest financial hurdle — partnering to provide the more than $300 million in equity that the developer pays upfront to obtain its estimated $600 million-plus construction loan — is now cleared, Witte said.
“In this climate, you can get a construction loan if you have enough equity,” said Witte. “The bigger challenge is getting the equity, because you’re taking the bigger risk.”
Bob Safai, a lending expert and principal at real estate brokerage Madison Partners, agrees that securing equity is a challenge in the market reeling from the subprime mortgage crisis. Banks today often require loan seekers to put down about twice as much upfront as was required just a year ago, up to nearly half the total loan amount, he said.
Even with equity in place, obtaining a loan in the current environment is no easy feat, said Safai.
“There’s much more stringent requirements on getting a loan done,” said Safai. “In this climate, when you’re dealing with local banks, often times you have to give a recourse loan, which means you personally guarantee the loan; you’re not just risking your equity.”
Witte concedes that the climate is tough.
“We are of course in a credit crunch, but we have our equity partner committed so we’re going forward,” he said. “I’d be lying if I said this is an easy time.”
He expects Related’s track record — which includes the Time Warner Center in New York, the planned $3 billion Snowmass Village Resort in Colorado and multiple West Cost projects — to go a long way in moving Grand Avenue forward.

“These are very tough, very large projects in uncertain times, but the people who keep moving are the people like AEG and Related,” he said. “We were here before Grand Avenue, and we’ll be here after Grand Avenue.”
Contact Anna Scott at [email protected]

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Well, it's good to see the Dubai funds have some confidence in the downtown LA market. Frankly, the time is right for foreign investment in US Real Estate, with the value of the dollar being as low as it is.
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Speaking of Real Estate, I captured some shots today of some downtown Real Estate after procuring some stronger meds from the doctor. BTW, if you happen to get the same respiratory infection I have, just shoot yourself. Twice. In the face.

Ritz Carlton
Things should start to get interesting now that they're above ground. This was taken from the corner of Olympic and Georgia. It appears to have a steel core (concrete cores usually rise before steel in LA), and they're already framing the third floor on the left. Check out the construction worker on the corner for size reference.




Hanover Tower
Looking east from Georgia. There's still work going on under the "hat".




717 Flower
Starting to make a it's presence known. With Concerto on the right, almost ready to peek out from behind the trees.




LAPD HQ
They're really moving on this one. From 2nd and Main. Note the metal spandrels - or transoms to be more accurate - installed on the 2nd floor at the corner.



Putting up a panel on the 2nd Street side.



The glass takes on the mood of the sky very well. Should make for some nice sunset shots.

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Leave it to Colemonkee to be sick as a dog and yet run around downtown during it's Seattle period to take pictures of pretty buildings.

Nice update though. I really like that angle of Hanover. The Ritz should speed up now. And since Dubai is investing in The Grand, mabye they'll shovel some pennies at Opus's way. And LA Central too.
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Great news about "The Grand" as I guess it's now called! Looking forward to that one.

Nice update colemonkee. It's good to finally see the Ritz Carlton above ground. Hanover is growing on me. It'll fit right in when they put the billboards up and open street level retail.

Oh and the new downtown update (no longer quarterly at this point) is up in the downtown news if you haven't noticed yet.
     
     
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Great shot of the glass installation on the LAPD HQ, Colemonkee.
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