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Old Posted Feb 15, 2008, 3:27 PM
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i get joy from reading all the witty banter on here. makes my days better.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2008, 7:12 PM
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how went the open house?
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it went well, had about 20 or so realtors. got your message too but it never rang so i dont have your number. tues is fine with me. call me and let me know what time
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how went the open house?
I made it by the open house and got to take a look at the units. They were really neat and had some very cool design elements. I hope the market develops well for this type of housing.

Keep up the good work!
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Alleyway could be the place to be

By Jill Nolin
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There is nothing about this block in downtown Montgomery that makes you want to wear Mardi Gras beads and drop big bucks on entertainment.

The buildings along Tallapoosa and Commerce streets look more like a place for businessmen and women than for frolickers -- and there is nothing exciting about the dismal-looking alleyway that runs between the buildings on Tallapoosa Street.

But a group of investors and the city of Montgomery think things will change in about a year and the alleyway will become the hopping place to be.

Construction soon will start on what is becoming known as the Alleyway Project in downtown Montgomery, where the Riverwalk Stadium, and more recently the Montgomery Renaissance Hotel & Spa at the Convention Center, have recently started other revitalization efforts.

One of the private developers with an eye on the alley, Jerry Kyser, estimated that he and other investors will put as much as $20 million into the project -- and that's a conservative estimate.

The city will invest about $1 million. Its portion will be funded through Tax Incremental Funds, according to Montgomery mayoral aide Jeff Downes. The same kind of program has successfully redeveloped areas in New York, California and Florida.

TIF is an incentive for private development that combines public and private funds. The alleyway itself -- the street the people walk on -- will be deeded to the city, which will be responsible for its upkeep. The buildings will belong to private investors.

The city also plans to take the water tower that straddles two buildings, fix it up and use it as an entrance to the 300-foot-long alleyway. People will walk under the water tower to get to the revitalized area that will include everything from an art gallery to a pizza parlor to piano bars.

The developers, on the other hand, will continue to improve their properties so new attractions, from quaint shops to jazz bars to New Orleans-style restaurants, will open in the hope of luring the hundreds of people staying in hotels downtown. The city hopes to see an increase in tax revenue.

Coming attractions


At this point in the project, little is set in stone.

Small-business owners with something unique to offer are essential, but those kinds of shop owners are hesitant to sign on when they see the current conditions of the buildings, said Jerome T. Moore, president of Coldwell Banker Commercial, who is working with investors on the Alleyway Project.

"Right now, it's all concept. People are looking at it and saying, 'It looks like a bomb shelter,'" Moore said

But that by no mean leaves the developers desperate. They're looking for the right kind of small shop owners -- with a sense of adventure and a taste for the out of the ordinary.

"They have to bring something unique. Don't come down here and do the same old, same old that you find at any shopping center," Moore said. "We're looking for people with a lot of flair."

Moore's office is located in the renovated Schloss and Kahn building on Coosa Street.

There already is talk of the several businesses that are coming to this block in downtown: A jewelry store, a pizza shop, a jazz bar, an oyster bar and an art gallery.

Those involved are trying to attract a gourmet coffee shop, a high-end clothing store and gift shops that would offer one-of-a-kind souvenirs to visitors. There also is interest in turning upper level spaces into loft apartments.

Kyser is in the process of turning his property at 129 Coosa St. into the kind of restaurant where patrons could start the day with brunch and end the evening with a cocktail. There also will be a downstairs wine cellar and private dining area.

He also said that he has plans to renovate his property at 118 Commerce St., which is next to the Hank Williams Museum, with a western-themed bar that will feature live music -- a perfect complement to its museum neighbor.

Kyser is ahead of other developers, and if you peer into the alleyway on Tallapoosa Street, you will see a green balcony that is similar to what you'll find in the French Quarters. Kyser envisions a retail and entertainment center that will rival what's available in Destin, Fla.

But the others are about to catch up with him.

The city of Montgomery currently is advertising for a project that would turn the dirt alleyway into festive grounds for tourists. This work could start as soon as March, according to Downes.

The Children's Museum of Alabama, which will be on the Commerce Street side, is projected to open within the next two years. The museum would focus on science and technology and would target children ages 1- to-10-years old, said Martha Demere, president of the museum board.

Demere said the museum will have exhibits related to land and water, with an emphasis on Alabama's land features, the human body and how things work.

The museum received a $216,500 boost from the Junior League of Montgomery last week, but needs as much as $2 million more to build the museum. Anyone interested can send monetary donations to The Children's Museum of Alabama at 3066 Zelda Road, Box 302, Montgomery, AL 36106.

A longtime coming


Ask Moore why businesses should be interested in coming to downtown Montgomery, and he will pull out his calculator and do some fast math.

There are 250 hotel rooms at Embassy Suites and about 350 rooms at Renaissance. Add in about 85 at the yet-to-be-opened Hampton Inn and 170 at Madison Hotel and you've got 855 rooms within a few blocks of each other in downtown in Montgomery. Even at half occupancy, that leaves hundreds of visitors looking for ways to spend money. Not to mention, Moore adds, there are 30,000 people working in the Central Business District of town.

The Alleyway Project, the newest riverfront development, would fit well in a block that sits across the street from the Renaissance and the Montgomery Biscuits' Riverwalk Stadium, which has drawn about 300,000 people downtown each year of its exisence.

The new project is a few blocks away from the Rosa Parks Museum and Troy University's Davis Theatre for the Performing Arts.

Those involved said you would not see something like the alleyway development without the other projects in the downtown area -- and the others on the agenda.

"It's been a 20-year process," Kyser said. "I think right now we're about to reap the benefits of the investment (in downtown)."

They also will tell you flatly that it would have been an unlikely endeavor without the new convention center, which opened earlier this month.

"I'm as excited about what's being done here than anything I've ever been excited about in the real estate business," said Moore, a fourth-generation real estate businessman.

Jere Beasley and Greg Allen, attorneys whose office is on Commerce Street, have two properties involved in the project. Allen said he has a "build it and they will come" mentality.

"I don't think people really realize what's going to happen down there," said Allen, who said he was approached by the city four years ago about the project. "I think it will happen, but I think it will take some investment and a little luck."

"We're going to do whatever it takes to make it work," he added.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2008, 5:04 AM
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Alleyway could be the place to be

By Jill Nolin
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The city also plans to take the water tower that straddles two buildings, fix it up and use it as an entrance to the 300-foot-long alleyway. People will walk under the water tower to get to the revitalized area that will include everything from an art gallery to a pizza parlor to piano bars.

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They're right.
It's been a looong, long time comin', but I knooow, a change 'gone come...oh yes it will...


BTW, I wonder how that water tower thing is going to work? Are they going to literally stand it on the sidewalk in front of the entrance? Unique indeed because it's so weird.
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I think unique is what's going to make this place thrive.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2008, 12:32 AM
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rundown on downtown projects by the Advertiser.

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Some projects complete while others facing delays Under construction

By Cosby Woodruff





In July, the Montgomery Advertiser took a photo­graphic look at construction projects around downtown Montgomery.

This is an update of those projects, how they are pro­ceeding and what work re­mains.

Some of the projects are complete and others are fac­ing delays. We have added two major new construction projects. Jackson Hospital is adding space for day surger­ies and outpatient imaging. Also we've added RSA build­ing a 12-story office tower at the site of the old State Su­preme Court building.

Here is a look at eight proj­ects with owners, costs, use and opening date. If you know of other projects, please e-mail them to cwoo­[email protected] or call 240-0116.

Montgomery Intermodal Center

Where: Near Molton and Tal­laspoosa Streets

Who built: City of Montgomery

Cost: $9 million for first phase. Expected costs for a second phase, which could include an observa­tion tower, have not been an­nounced.

Use: The center is a transfer point for riders on Montgomery Area Transit System and has a 380-space parking deck.

Completion date: The center opened Sept. 10 after multiple de­lays.

RSA Headquarters


Where: 201 South Union Street

Who is building: Retirement Systems of Alabama

Cost: More than $100 million

Use: The nine-story building will house the RSA offices and headquarters and will include leased office space. Tenants will include the state health inspection board and the criminal justice in­formation center.

Completion date: June, delayed from May

Montgomery Renaissance Hotel and Spa at the Convention Center


Where: Tallapoosa and Molton Streets

Who built: City of Montgomery and Retirement Systems of Alaba­ma

Cost: $200 million

Use: The facility has a 345-room hotel, 9,000-square foot spa, restau­rant, bar, meeting rooms, a 75,000-square foot convention cen­ter and 1,800-seat theater.

Completion date: Hotel opened Feb. 4, and the other facilities are opening this month.

Forensic Sciences building


Where: Corner of Carter Hill Road and South Decatur Street

Who built: Alabama State Uni­versity and the state of Alabama.

Cost: $10.3 million

Use: Houses forensic sciences classrooms for ASU and the state's forensic science offices.

Completion date: August 2007

Renovation of old Montgomery Advertiser building


Where: 200 Washington Street

Who is building: Montgomery County

Cost: $15 million

Use: Montgomery County will use the former newspaper office as a site for citizens to pay taxes, pur­chases licenses and visit County Commission meetings. It also will offer parking in a deck under con­struction at the site.

Completion date: November or December, delayed from July.

Montgomery Coun­ty Detention Facility


Where: Corner of Adams Ave­nue and South McDonough Street.

Who is building: Montgomery County

Cost: $47.3 million

Use: The facility will add 696 beds to the county's detention fa­cility, bringing the total to 1,001 beds. The price includes renova­tions to the kitchen and adminis­trative areas of the current facili­ty.

Completion date: October 2008

Outpatient surgical and imaging cen­ters


Where: Pine Street

Who is building: Jackson Hos­pital

Cost: $20 million

Use: The facilities, which will total about 40,000 square feet, will house areas of minor surgeries and outpatient imaging proce­dures. This will move those func­tions out of the main hospital building, where inpatient and out­patient procedures share space and equipment.

Completion date: November

RSA Judicial Center


Where: Dexter Avenue at Deca­tur Street

Who is building: Retirement Systems of Alabama

Cost: At least $200 million

Use: The building will give the RSA more than 500,000 square feet of office space to lease. It also will offer parking spaces on a parking deck under construction.

Completion date: Late 2009
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Big pics. Looks like we'll have plenty of places to hang out before and after the Biscuit games real soon. Kyser's building in the picture above looks like it will be one of the jazz club/restaurants in the alley. I thought at one time he was opening a sports bar there.

BTW, I'll be in Atlanta this weekend to give my sister-in-law's investment group an update on the hotel/convention center and alleyway projects and to get an update from them on whether they are going to come back to take a look at the Lower Commerce Street area and move forward with their plans for a sports-theme restaurant there. Hopefully this time the building prices are a little more favorable.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2008, 5:35 AM
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Bystander, that wouldn't happen to be the ESPN branded place?
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hey bystander,
i know of a perfect condo opportunity for them, then they would have a place to stay when they're here. i'd be happy to sell mine so i can do more downtown.
as for more reasonable prices on property, just the opposite now that the convention center is open, everyone is trying to cash in.
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Hiijakd,

Thanks for the additional tour today. Josh was very impressed.... however, he was also impressed by your need to market them.
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BTW, I had lunch today at The House, which is the Renaissance's restaurant. Excellent. A little pricier than standard lunch fair.... you aren't getting out of there for less than $10, unless you get a salad and a water, and stiff them on the tip.

But at the same time, it wasn't obscenely expensive, entree's in the $9-$14 catagory, and an upscale lunch buffet, with bacon-wrapped beef tenderloin, palenta, risotto, etc....

Great atmosphere. It's too $$$ for most of us to eat there everyday, but it's nice to have a 'white tablecloth' place other than the Capitol City Club in downtown.
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Bystander, that wouldn't happen to be the ESPN branded place?
Noooo. Unfortunately.

But then again, that might be a good thing...
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hey bystander,
i know of a perfect condo opportunity for them, then they would have a place to stay when they're here. i'd be happy to sell mine so i can do more downtown.
as for more reasonable prices on property, just the opposite now that the convention center is open, everyone is trying to cash in.

One of the investment members already lives here and others have family here, so that might not fly...but who knows...

If I had $100K I could join and have more influence in the decision making process.
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BTW, I had lunch today at The House, which is the Renaissance's restaurant. Excellent. A little pricier than standard lunch fair.... you aren't getting out of there for less than $10, unless you get a salad and a water, and stiff them on the tip.

But at the same time, it wasn't obscenely expensive, entree's in the $9-$14 catagory, and an upscale lunch buffet, with bacon-wrapped beef tenderloin, palenta, risotto, etc....

Great atmosphere. It's too $$$ for most of us to eat there everyday, but it's nice to have a 'white tablecloth' place other than the Capitol City Club in downtown.

Those prices sound very reasonable for an upscale restaurant.

Great idea! I'll be off work all next week. Maybe we can all get together and have lunch at the House one afternoon...sort of a mini-meet.

Wha-da-ya-say guys?
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I think I'm outta town Thur/Fri next week, but other then that, sure.
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I'm in transition on jobs so I'm more than open. Just announce guys!
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Cool. Let's choose between Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.
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