Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[UTPlanner]

You've made some good points. I have yet to see a Holiday Inn with a striking architectural style. I also would like to grant visitors a more pleasing entrance, though I would argue a Holiday Inn is better than an abandoned warehouse as well.

I shouldn't say anything about a neighborhood being downtrodden. I live in the Liberty Park area and I absolutely love it, though I'm often warned about living in the "ghetto."

What this neighborhood really needs is the ability to build some affordable housing with future condo projects. The neighborhood needs a good income mix. Without it, you will find a bland lifeless area. I hope that the Becker administration can help to fix the affordability problem that faces downtown.

[kicjmarshall]

I am interested in Class-A office buildings that are 50,000 square feet or larger in Salt Lake, Utah, and Davis counties. Can anyone provide me a list with names and addresses so I can visit them?

[ski_steve]

The hotel idea is stupid in my opinion. It is a much better site for Housing, not some crappy hotel that has duplicates all over the world.

And besides, this hotel just wipes all of the historic warehouses and buildings, for some hotel that is not need in that particular location.

Just save the buildings in this area, there are quite a few that are of huge significance.

I would rather see a trendy and lively neighborhood with historic buildings, than some cookie-cutter hotel.

[WASDEN]

I was worried about that too stevena- but from what I can tell some of the best parts of that block will not be affected- namely the cool row of buildings along 200 S, just East of Club Sound/In The Venue.
200 S. is one of my favorite streets in the city, lots of uniquie buildings to see from west side warehouses, Capitol Theater, the Walker building, and all the way up to the U. I hope as this neighborhood really takes off that somehow those classic structures will be preserved. They strike me as a natural backdrop to the new TRAX line.

[T-Mac]

Originally Posted by kicjmarshall

I am interested in Class-A office buildings that are 50,000 square feet or larger in Salt Lake, Utah, and Davis counties. Can anyone provide me a list with names and addresses so I can visit them?

Your best bet might be 222 S Main or the Walker Tower that was just remodeled to Class A space. It is on the northeast corner of 200 S and Main. Davis county is hurting for Class A space and especially that amount in one spot. You would probably have to go to Layton if there would be any space of that size. I know that there are a lot of these office

Millrock Park at the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon has just finished some new buildings that are Class A and may have some space. Their phone number is 801-993-1700. Check it out at www.millrock.net.

The other thing to do is check the websites of CBRE Richard Ellis at www.cbre.com and Commerce CRG which is www.commercecrg.com. Good Luck and welcome the the boards.

[Comrade]

WASDEN is right, there are no historical warehouses that will be demolished for the hotel. On the current site there are only a few really ugly one-story warehouses and open fields -- nothing historical or nice.

I'll withhold my judgment on this hotel until I see real renderings and not just blocks.

[ski_steve]

Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

WASDEN is right, there are no historical warehouses that will be demolished for the hotel. On the current site there are only a few really ugly one-story warehouses and open fields -- nothing historical or nice.

I'll withhold my judgment on this hotel until I see real renderings and not just blocks.

Oh yeah thats right, I was thinking of the block to the south.

So does anyone know how to post a Adobe Reader file on this site? I have one for the master plan of the Gateway district.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by stevena07

Oh yeah thats right, I was thinking of the block to the south.

So does anyone know how to post a Adobe Reader file on this site? I have one for the master plan of the Gateway district.

No worries, I had to check the map and make sure there were no historical buildings there.

As for Adobe Reader files, you'll probably need to upload it to a website and then post the link.

[Future Mayor]

While I too would like to some some nice trendy market rate and or affordable housing in the neighborhood there are often times more factors that go into play than simply what us skyscraper nerds want.

A critical piece in developing is establishing the highest and best use for the parcel. This can be done in a short, medium, and long term analysis and often times the highest and best use can differ for all three time periods. I don't know how the developer evaluated the site but I am guessing they saw the potential to do something on that site and in their minds according to their ROR required for the project this obviously makes the most sense to them.

Yes it would be nice to have some great affordable housing in the neighborhood. In my opinion a truly vibrant neighborhood is a neighborhood with mixed uses and diversity. While I would agree that this neighborhood has some great character especially the building on 200 S and the Pickle company warehouse on the block to the south. Many people may honestly feel that this neighborhood is downtrodden and I think that these hotels can honestly start to bring a new image to the neighborhood. I feel that commuter traffic and hotel guests will initially be better able to support the first floor retail in this project as opposed to low income or condos on the site. The critical mass will arrive in this neighborhood. It could be that in a few years 3-5 maybe 10-15 the highest and best use for this property very well may be housing and if that is the case the owner will make the transition. I guess we'll just have to see.

I too am worried about the design, and I am cautiously optimistic that they will do a decent job in attempting to at least not stick out like a sore thumb. I like the design of the Pioneer Park extended stay, maybe these will be able to add some flavor to this neighborhood.

I find myself doing it a lot but I think often times those of us in planning or interested in development tend to view everything with rose colored glasses and I often times have to step back and decipher what others not as engrossed in this topic think of a neighborhood or a project.

Just my two cents.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Sandy: County funds not needed for theater

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8246960

While Sandy claims they don't need County money for their theater facility I am still highly opposed to SB218 that it also talks about in this article. I feel that it is just another attempt for sandy to gobble up more money. What I don't get is how sandy feels that they have gotten the shaft on county funding. The Expo Center is county funded, I believe someone new Dimple Dell Rec Center is a county facility, and while they didn't get it from the county directly they still received funding for RSL Stadium. I'm not sure why Senator Neiderwhatever is feeling that they aren't getting their fair share of that tax money.

I wrote my Senator to express my opposition to this bill and would hope that all of you will do the same. As stated in the article the County estimates that it would have to close facilities rather than open new ones. I'm not sure how this is for the good of the population of the county in general.

http://se16.utahsenate.org/perl/spage/roster2007.pl

[SLCforme]

I know this is terrible but how do I know who my state senator is? I've never been that active in politics except for voting so I don't even know which one to write.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by SLCforme

I know this is terrible but how do I know who my state senator is? I've never been that active in politics except for voting so I don't even know which one to write.

If you go to the link it lists the Senators addresses and you can possibly figure it out from that. There is also a map available on the legislature page.

http://se16.utahsenate.org/perl/spage/distmapal.pl

[SLCforme]

OK, I wrote my state senator for the first time in my life; and definitely not the last. Anything I can do to keep Sandy from cannibalizing county and state funds.

[Wasatch_One]

Originally Posted by kicjmarshall

I am interested in Class-A office buildings that are 50,000 square feet or larger in Salt Lake, Utah, and Davis counties. Can anyone provide me a list with names and addresses so I can visit them?

Kicjmarshall,

there are two 150,000+ sq ft Class-A office buildings (one 10 story and one 12 story) ...breaking ground right now in Provo. Here is a link to one:

http://www.naiutah.com/zions_bank/tabid/6371/Default.aspx

[delts145]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

I hope this works!

Naming rights for The Leonardo for sale

Aim is to close a funding gap on building renovation
By Jared Page
Deseret Morning News

The EnergySolutions Art, Culture and Science Center has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

No? How about The Franklin Covey Leonardo?

OK, it's unlikely that either Salt Lake City stadium sponsor will attach its name to the financially challenged future tenant of the old downtown library, but city officials aren't ruling anything out.

Mayor Ralph Becker's office, city officials and representatives of The Leonardo have developed a plan to close the funding gap to renovate the building on the corner of 500 South and 200 East, and it includes selling the naming rights for a target price of $5 million to $8 million.

continued...
http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695252775,00.html

Thanks for the post on this Urbanboy. Props to those involved in getting this important project on track. I'm anxious to see The Leonardo become a reality.
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[Viperlord]

You know how I am a hound for finding projects guys, well, I found this...Its dated from October and November 2007, so fairly recent. It says that they were scheduled to close on the property in November of 2007. I am guessing that they didnt close on the property

If you read through the actual PDF you will notice that it has a lot of the same people/developers involved as the Market Station Development

14 floors of condominiums
8 floors of office

http://www.kahrrealestate.com/OM%20Sample,%20short.pdf



Also, looking at those pictures of the mass models. It appears that this proposal would not have used the SLC RDA land. Its all on the intermountian furniture site.

http://www.slcrda.com/First/2008/BOD/021208new.pdf

The SLC RDA agenda says that the summit group (developer of the two 5-6 story hotels has an option to buy the intermountain furniture site) I would love it if for some odd reason it fell through.

two five story hotels is a horrible use of that land. I think the mixed use development site is a much better option.

I think we need to e-mail our SLC RDA members and let them know that something more exciting and dense needs to go in on that parcel of land.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

You know how I am a hound for finding projects guys, well, I found this...Its dated from October and November 2007, so fairly recent. It says that they were scheduled to close on the property in November of 2007. I am guessing that they didnt close on the property

If you read through the actual PDF you will notice that it has a lot of the same people/developers involved as the Market Station Development

14 floors of condominiums
8 floors of office

http://www.kahrrealestate.com/OM%20Sample,%20short.pdf



Also, looking at those pictures of the mass models. It appears that this proposal would not have used the SLC RDA land. Its all on the intermountian furniture site.

http://www.slcrda.com/First/2008/BOD/021208new.pdf

The SLC RDA agenda says that the summit group (developer of the two 5-6 story hotels has an option to buy the intermountain furniture site) I would love it if for some odd reason it fell through.

two five story hotels is a horrible use of that land. I think the mixed use development site is a much better option.

I think we need to e-mail our SLC RDA members and let them know that something more exciting and dense needs to go in on that parcel of land.

Wow, I like this even more then the 2-six story hotels plan. But witch project will be going on that site. The 14-story condo tower or the six-story hotels? If I was up to me I would go with the 14-story condo tower project. Only I would add a hotel with this project. Maybe a 8-10 story hotel. That would be cool.

[SLC Projects]

Salt Lake City will have Four new Skyscrapers added to it's skyline in three years!!!
These towers go from 19-32 stories.

These Four new Skyscrapers are now under construction!


List of New Towers.
1.222 South Main: 22-stories coming in 2009
2.City Creek Center Tower 1: 32-stories coming in 2010
3.City Creek Center Tower 2: 19-stories coming in 2010
4.City Creek Center Tower 5: 20-stories coming in 2010


Salt Lake City Skyline Today




Salt Lake City Skyline by 2010




Renderings of our new skyscrapers that are under construction.



By 2010 Salt Lake City will have a whole new Skyline as you can see from the pics above.

[TimeSaltlake]

I can't believe how much Ogden has going on. I went up there a few days ago, to Ifly, and I was amazed at what is going on up there. I write it on this thread because seening how they have a bowling alley, theater, golds gym, etc... made me realize how much focus there is for retail in Downtown salt lake. We need have some thing like they have in Ogden to bring people to live not just shop in our downtown. Denver had a Bad ass Bowling Place Downtown too. It was a good business trip that time

Plus I saw that they also have a Six Story Residential "Brownstone" Building in development two buildings south of the Old Wells Fargo Building (not part of the Mall redevelopment). Plus I think the're getting a 14 story hotel as well. WTF Salt Lake. I want Bowling Downtown!!!!!!

[ski_steve]

Is any of this working for downtown Ogden? Are there alot of people downtown?