The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Seriously. Does every single one of your comments have to be:

Saint John got something. This is good news.

By the way, Moncton Sucks!

I think we can all agree that some great things have been announced in SJ over the past year. This entire forum is about talking about projects and announcements like these. But geez, don't be so negative. Just because something good happens in one town, doesn't mean that the next town over is going down the tubes.

Comments like this one just make you seem like an ass.

I said congrats on level 2. not that moncton sucks,
And your the one creeping around on our forum. If you dont like whats said, You dont have to continue to creep.

[Helladog]

Uh oh, here we go again...

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Uh oh, here we go again...

I've said my peace. I don't see the need or point in online arguments, especially trivial ones like Moncton vs SJ.

I just had to get that off my chest.


On another note, is there any plan to finish twinning route 1 the rest of the way to St Stephen? I hate that road. Plus you'd think you'd need the highway upgraded if a major project like Lepreau goes through.

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Seriously. Does every single one of your comments have to be:

Saint John got something. This is good news.

By the way, Moncton Sucks! This entire forum is about talking about projects and announcements like these. But geez, don't be so negative. .

Good point - and I agree; we're all from the same province, and it isnt about one area being "better" or "worse" than another...at the end of the day, we should be proud of advancement in our own areas, but equally proud & supportful of projects in other areas...boiling things down to a "point tally" of projects (or city, CMA population number, etc, etc) is ultimately unconstructive, IMHO. Ultimately, it's about each area realizing their full unique potential, and less about comparing apples / oranges in terms of community against community.

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

On another note, is there any plan to finish twinning route 1 the rest of the way to St Stephen? I hate that road. Plus you'd think you'd need the highway upgraded if a major project like Lepreau goes through.

There are MAJOR highway upgrades in Maine, the border crossing at Calais/St Stephen is being expanded, and last I heard, there is money desinted to twin the last bits of the highway to Saint John. Also, the possibility of that private toll highway cutting through Maine to Quebec is still on the table, to my knowledge.
I think the Atlantic Gateway initiative only underlines the need for better road/rail connections through Maine....

[random11]

Saint John seeks recognition as a 'cultural capital'

CBC News
Saint John hopes to be designated a cultural capital of Canada in 2010 as it celebrates its 225th anniversary.

The city will be applying to the federal Canadian Heritage program that recognizes municipalities for activities that promote arts and culture.

"Now is the time to make an application, and the fact that it coincides with the city's 225th anniversary on 2010 seemed to us to be serendipity, but added to the credibility of the application, so the timing was right," said Michael Wennberg, chair of the community arts board.

Five communities receive the Canadian Heritage designation annually. Fredericton and Caraquet were among the municipalities selected as cultural capitals for 2009.

The cultural affairs office in Saint John will be joining with the board to propose a year-long program operating on the theme of "Saint John: The Original City." The city will be asking for $750,000 in funding for the year's events.

Meanwhile city council agreed on Monday night to form a partnership with the private sector to market Saint John as a tourism destination.

Currently a number of organizations try to attract tourists to the city, and it creates a fragmented effort, said Pat Woods, deputy city manager.

"That fragmentation means that we risk missing opportunities. We can lose focus and when we lose focus, we also lose clout," Wood said.

A new integrated agency will bring together Tourism Saint John with the tourism industry and have a promotion budget of about $1 million annually, Wood said.

[SJTOKO]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Saint John got something. This is good news.

By the way, Moncton Sucks!

I agree!

[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by SJTOKO

I agree!

[ErickMontreal]

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[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by HalifaxMtl666

Oh I forget, Moncton sucks !

im glad you finally realize that. SJtoko and I agree

[mylesmalley]

Forget I ever said anything. I really don't feel like reading another 50 post war over who's better. All I meant was if you don't have something constructive to say, don't say it at all.

Can this end before it gets really annoying?

[SJTOKO]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Don't forget everything I said. I feel like reading another 50 post war over who's better. All I meant was that I don't have anything constructive to say at all.

Can this end before I really get annoying?

......

[Smevo]

Just when I think it's worth it to check this development forum out again, I see another "usual suspect" instigating a fight between the Moncton and SJ forumers.

"congrats on level 2 Moncton lol" is a sad attempt at a Moncton putdown, and then to say "I said congrats on level 2" to try to defend yourself is even sadder.

Also, Mr. Inflammatory with his "I agree" didn't make things any better.

You guys make the "SJ haters" look like SJ cheerleaders.

Saint John is a great city, Moncton's a great city, there are countless other great cities and countless other cities of the same size with similar developments going on.

The only development thread with consistent putdowns of another city is this one, however, perpetuated by a select couple of forumers. Honestly, I hope you guys show up to the meet in Fredericton so you can have your minds changed about people not from Saint John.

We don't have to "all get along", but for everyone's sake stop instigating. Nobody want's to duplicate the KW vs London crap. We're Maritimers for god's sake, we're supposed to be the nicest people in the country.

[PersonPlaceorThing]

I realize much of this talk has migrated to the North of Union page, but oh well. I am very impressed by the efficiency of the folks taking down the Y. I have a good view from my office and have watched the process. I heard the local company in charge of the tear down hired a Halifax firm to run the equipment. Maybe if Saint John sees more redevelopment workers and companies with these skills will set up here.

[SJTOKO]

Happy Lunar NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!

[Seely32]

Include transportation hub in complex: cyclists
Proposal Community group says parking garage should have large bus stop with sheltered bike racks

John Mazerolle
Telegraph-Journal
Published Thursday February 7th, 2008
Appeared on page C1
SAINT JOHN - The police-justice complex should include a hub for pedestrians, cyclists and bus riders, says a community group that promotes cycling and walking.

"You've got to be smart about how people are getting in and out of there," said Dean Price, of the group Active Transportation Saint John.

Price sent the group's four-page proposal to the Telegraph-Journal. It lists eight recommendations for the city to consider during public consultations. The group's "transportation hub" suggestion says the parking complex planned for the site should include a larger-than-normal bus stop, complete with sheltered bike racks, lockers, and a link to the pedway.

Price said the transportation hub should include a newsstand, coffee shop, bike shop, and flower and food carts. In an interview Wednesday, Price said residential units and offices in the area would create enough foot traffic to justify the businesses.

He compared it to being in Toronto and looking down a street you don't know. If there is activity on the street, people will walk in that direction, he said.

The complex slated for the north of Union Street is an approximately $100-million development that will include a provincial justice building, a police headquarters, a parking garage, and a public green space.

Public consultations are underway, though some in the community fear the city won't listen. Price, who works in the city's engineering department, said he didn't expect resistance, because the group's recommendations would not substantially change the project.

For instance, one of the suggestions is providing bike parking at the garage. Price said 50 bikes would fit in the same space as two sports utility vehicles.

The group's proposal says the city seems to be at odds with its own vision statement, which reads, in part, "Life without a car is entirely possible."

Active Transportation's report says that city leaders "need to make a statement that high quality, well designed and sustainable developments are the only kind acceptable in the city of Saint John."

These are the other recommendations:

* Bike lanes and bike racks throughout Union Street. Spots too narrow for bike lanes should include symbols reminding motorists and cyclists to share the road.

* Union Street should be made safer through synchronized traffic lights and intersection improvements. Price says widening the street is vital, but "we don't want to have an urban speedway in the middle of the city." The group wants the street to be no more than three vehicle lanes and two bicycle lanes, not a four-lane arterial. Also, tractor-trailers should be banned from through traffic.

* The neighbourhood should be built to the standards of Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED), an internationally recognized system that determines environmental sustainability.

* Walkable, vibrant streetscapes and an open plaza, possibly with outdoor dining.

* The entire complex should be wheelchair accessible.

* Bike parking at the three new buildings.

* Bicycle storage and change rooms in the buildings.

"These are the modern concepts that everybody else is doing," Price said.




This is the type of public consultation that should be listened to. This man presents some good ideas this is a group that is in support of the development that just want to make make it better.

[Helladog]

I noticed a backhoe near the site of the mile one interchange, are they getting the ground prepared?

[PostModernPrometheus]

*That* would be great news....Mile One interchange would save a HUGE amount of wear & tear along city roads...together with (hopefully) a full future interchange at Ashburn Lake Road, this sould make access to the shopping district and downtown core more efficient.

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by random11

Saint John seeks recognition as a 'cultural capital'

CBC News
Saint John hopes to be designated a cultural capital of Canada in 2010 as it celebrates its 225th anniversary.

The city will be applying to the federal Canadian Heritage program that recognizes municipalities for activities that promote arts and culture.

*sic*

A new integrated agency will bring together Tourism Saint John with the tourism industry and have a promotion budget of about $1 million annually, Wood said.

Integrated the tourism services in theory sounds like a sound idea...less redundancy, more efficiency and more "clout" than each agency individually.

[PostModernPrometheus]

Originally Posted by Seely32

Include transportation hub in complex: cyclists
Proposal Community group says parking garage should have large bus stop with sheltered bike racks

John Mazerolle
Telegraph-Journal
Published Thursday February 7th, 2008
Appeared on page C1
SAINT JOHN - The police-justice complex should include a hub for pedestrians, cyclists and bus riders, says a community group that promotes cycling and walking.
*sic*

Price sent the group's four-page proposal to the Telegraph-Journal. It lists eight recommendations for the city to consider during public consultations. The group's "transportation hub" suggestion says the parking complex planned for the site should include a larger-than-normal bus stop, complete with sheltered bike racks, lockers, and a link to the pedway.

linking to the pedway, in my opinion, is not optional...we have a realatively large indoor pedway system spreading several city blocks already...the more we expand, the better...now if only they'd link over to the Imperial Theatre...

*sic*


For instance, one of the suggestions is providing bike parking at the garage. Price said 50 bikes would fit in the same space as two sports utility vehicles.

such a small price to pay...two parking spots to help promote green, efficient transportation

The group's proposal says the city seems to be at odds with its own vision statement, which reads, in part, "Life without a car is entirely possible."

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