Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[Makid]

Quick Query,

Did anyone catch the report on Fox 13 news about the possibility of SLC getting an NFL team?

I saw the teaser stating that it may not be far off but didn't get a chance to watch the broadcast. It was supposed to be on Sunday night.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Makid

Quick Query,

Did anyone catch the report on Fox 13 news about the possibility of SLC getting an NFL team?

I saw the teaser stating that it may not be far off but didn't get a chance to watch the broadcast. It was supposed to be on Sunday night.

Here is the link to the story on Fox 13. There are two parts, click on Larry's picture for part 2.

http://www.myfoxutah.com/myfox/pages/New...ocale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Makid]

Thanks for the link Future Mayor.

[SLC Projects]

All that story talked about was that MAYBE in 20 years if we are LUCKY maybe we MIGHT get an NFL team here in Utah. But right now we don't have enough people living here, we don't have the market for it. And since games are played on sundays and the fact that most people here in utah are of the LDS faith. I don't think the NFL have any plan to expand here to Utah anytime soon. In fact I think Utah would be near if not right at the bottom of the list.

In fact One of the fox 13 people who were reporting the story called up the NFL and told them that he was doing a story of "Could utah get an NFL team" what to know what they said to him?...

"It's going to be a really short story".

So there you have it.

[TimeSaltlake]

Its good to see all is well in the forum I did not know that the Cityview project would have under ground parking. I likes it. I got so lost in Sandy Yesterday and some how I ended up in fort Union, but all I could think about was: if Sandy was considered a "Downtown" then what the hell is a Down town. Just an area were business gathers to create a steriod abused business park with some housing and a mall?

So what would I need to do if a Bought some property and I wanted to build a house/townhouse on it? Im sure you all would no better than i would, but I am truly considering it. So HELP!!!

[TimeSaltlake]

I don't care about what you all think, Downtown for me starts East of I-15, north of 2-15 and south of 700 North.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by TimeSaltlake

I don't care about what you all think, Downtown for me starts East of I-15, north of 2-15 and south of 700 North.

I agree TimeSaltlake, Now I know alot of you guys might think of me as the sandy city lover. But I look at salt lake city as our Downtown.
Back in 1999 after Sandy got the jordan commons build and the 10 story tower that's when they started calling them selfs "the other downtown." I think they were getting a bit ahead of them selfs. It takes alot more then just a mall and a 10 story building to make up a downtown. I think the city had some big planns back then but all their plan fell though till now. Sandy city does have some cool projects on their drawing broad, but yet they still have a long ways to go before they can call them selfs downtown.

Things Sandy City should do Before calling them selfs downtown.
1. first let's build something taller the 10-stories
2. build a mix-use urban center with street side retail and housing above it.
3. let's build a trax line going down 10000 South right by the city hall and office buildings.
4. build underground parking


Do those things then we'll talk.

The term "Other Downtown" should really go to Sugarhouse or provo.

That's my 2 cents

[jedikermit]

Saw this in the paper today--I don't know if it's already been posted here or not. Looks like a fairly nice office building on the other side of TRAX from the IHC complex.

[Boiseguy]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

I agree TimeSaltlake, Now I know alot of you guys might think of me as the sandy city lover. But I look at salt lake city as our Downtown.
Back in 1999 after Sandy got the jordan commons build and the 10 story tower that's when they started calling them selfs "the other downtown." I think they were getting a bit ahead of them selfs. It takes alot more then just a mall and a 10 story building to make up a downtown. I think the city had some big planns back then but all their plan fell though till now. Sandy city does have some cool projects on their drawing broad, but yet they still have a long ways to go before they can call them selfs downtown.

Things Sandy City should do Before calling them selfs downtown.
1. first let's build something taller the 10-stories
2. build a mix-use urban center with street side retail and housing above it.
3. let's build a trax line going down 10000 South right by the city hall and office buildings.
4. build underground parking


Do those things then we'll talk.

The term "Other Downtown" should really go to Sugarhouse or provo.

That's my 2 cents

why is sandy being so aggressive in trying to steal or share the spotlight with salt lake city? is it a city government issue where they want a bigger tax base? or is it some kind of marketing strategy? Sandy is definetely centrally located when you look at the entire corridor from salt lake to provo.. but does it realistically have the potential to do what it seeks? I mean salt lake while small in population.. it still is where the capital is.. as well as church headquarters and other civic facilities and venues... I wonder is there some kind of cooperation among the cities of the valley down there? or is it typically aggressive and winner takes all mentality? I can understand why sandy might think it can make such a move due to their location (my brother lives in sandy btw) but just how realistic is it? not to compare any city to another.. I just see our suburb of Meridian starting to do the same thing and it really annoys me as well....

[urbanboy]

Originally Posted by Boiseguy

Sandy is definetely centrally located when you look at the entire corridor from salt lake to provo...

That's like saying Farmington is centrally located between Salt Lake City and Ogden. It doesnt' mean anything. Salt Lake City is Central to the metro; from Nephi to Brigham City.

[Boiseguy]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

That's like saying Farmington is centrally located between Salt Lake City and Ogden. It doesnt' mean anything. Salt Lake City is Central to the metro; from Nephi to Brigham City.

OK, but thats not what I'm saying... I'm asking why is it that sandy of all suburbs is taking such an aggressive approach in trying to become a focal point in the valley.. saying that its centrally located was just a guess of mine... I wasn't making a statement...what's the driving force? because I know west valley and even west jordan are larger suburbs as well... but you don't hear much about them in terms of focal point developement... WHY??? is the question.. I can come up with all the reasons I would think.. but it isn't necessarily accurate.. but asking it in this forum to people who live there perhaps can give more insight as to why...

[Viperlord]

the one and nine condos are coming along rather nicely....

photo from pentalon construction site

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

Saw this in the paper today--I don't know if it's already been posted here or not. Looks like a fairly nice office building on the other side of TRAX from the IHC complex.

This project is new to me. Seven stories. Not bad. And underground parking.
While I like the size of the building and that it's seven stories, I don't really care much for the design. I like of looks 80ish to me. and very boxy. what do you guys think?

I can see within 5-10 year there will be alot of new mid rise to highrise office buildings getting built around the new IHC campus.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by Boiseguy

OK, but thats not what I'm saying... I'm asking why is it that sandy of all suburbs is taking such an aggressive approach in trying to become a focal point in the valley.. saying that its centrally located was just a guess of mine... I wasn't making a statement...what's the driving force? because I know west valley and even west jordan are larger suburbs as well... but you don't hear much about them in terms of focal point developement... WHY??? is the question.. I can come up with all the reasons I would think.. but it isn't necessarily accurate.. but asking it in this forum to people who live there perhaps can give more insight as to why...

Because it's one of Salt Lake's larger suburbs and the wealthiest.

The reason you don't hear about West Valley is because it's typically far more poorer than many other Salt Lake suburbs. Sandy's boom has nothing to do with its location in relation to Provo.

[delts145]

^^^
If addition to it's relative size and large wealthy sections,Sandy also has a fairly sizeable concentration of power in the state legislature. Am I right in noticing that Curtis as majority leader seems to exert a lot of back room influence?

[delts145]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

This project is new to me. Seven stories. Not bad. And underground parking.
While I like the size of the building and that it's seven stories, I don't really care much for the design. I like of looks 80ish to me. and very boxy. what do you guys think?

I can see within 5-10 year there will be alot of new mid rise to highrise office buildings getting built around the new IHC campus.

It's hard to tell Projects, with the rendering being so out of focus. It kind of looks like the sections surrounding the tower are in keeping with the design of its neighbors, but the tower is one of those red/brown brick structures from the 80's, like you said. I am pretty enthusiastic about that general area and all of the development and improvements,like highway landscaping.

To me this area of Murray, particularly with it's historic downtown section of State, IHC campus and the huge fireclay transit development, is starting to feel a lot more like a viable downtown core than say Sandy. At least for now, Sandy still feels like a large, convenient suburban center. I do think Sandy will eventually take on more of an urban-core feeling, as the Jordon and South Valley areas continue to fill in with people.

[delts145]

Delta, Northwest display unity at business show

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_8180704

''We are doing this to show the market that the four of us are together,'' said Christine Ourmieres, Air France's general manager for the United Kingdom and Ireland.

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[SLCforme]

Boiseguy,
I think that Sandy, being the city with the second highest tax base in the state, a sizable chunk of wealthy residents, and a lot of power in the state legislature, decided that they wanted to expand that even further in order to grow and make more money. A while back there was a map posted of land annexed by Sandy, and it was pretty incredible how much county land they have incorporated in the last 40 years.
Now for the conspiracy theory: State legislatures resent SLC for being a liberal haven in a conservative state and the city which contains the headquarters of the church to which 80% of them belong, so they decided to make a "new downtown". A family friendly downtown that feels more suburban, which they are used to, without the urban grit and diversity of SLC (It's all relative, I know). So they started backing Tom Dolans bid to increase the tax base in Sandy and make it into the downtown they want, without all the "undesirable" elements in SLC. And really just to spite SLC and it's democratic liberal mayors and constituents.
So why Sandy and not West Jordan? Well, money and opportunity seem like a plausible explanation.
Everything I've said here is my opinion, but I think there is a sizable amount of truth to it.

[SLC Projects]

In addition I don't think the city of Sandy wants to be just like West jordan or West Valley. And can you blame them?...I mean look at west valley. What does west valley have to show? Being Utah's 2nd biggest city, but yet it has NO CORE. Just a getto mall and a E-Center that nobody wants to buy the naming rights for. I'm glad Sandy is trying to look forward and improve their city. I wish west valley would do something.

[delts145]

^^^
There's definately some truth to that SLCforme, even if unspoken openly. I do think, or at least hope that the new Becker administration will help to bring the diverse communities together.