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Originally Posted by edluva
They like many other laypeople see/experience times square as being "new york, a 24 hour city", and come back with their own envious vision for downtown LA, "our manhattan", leading to idiotic slogans like "L.A. live will be known as 'Times Square West'" and other "visions" which attest to their feeling that DTLA must encompass what manhattan encompasses - eg bev hills, hollywood, Samo, Weho, 24 hour jumbotrons, etc or it is somehow deficient as "LA's center". And then some of you here on SSP (not you), gobble it right up as though your brains were being fed directly from their mouths like automatons.
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Okay, so we shouldn't be trying to emulate cities like NYC. And, so, yea, ppl in LA, unlike ppl in NYC, love their cars, they love to drive. Therefore, we should quit trying to apply NYC wannabe solutions to LA.
We need to give consideration to automobiles!! We need to give consideration to parking garages!!
Oh, and is it true that Beverly Hills looks like a ritzier version of Mission Viejo?
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(but citywatch see's the end product only because he, like many angeleno politicians, developers, and consumers, likes shiny pretty things and is incapable of understanding things in relative depth)
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And assuming you have friends----a serious girlfriend too?----I'm guessing you don't mind being seen by them driving around in a 1982 Chevy, wearing clothes from JC Penneys, cheap shoes from Walmart, living in a small rundown house in Lomita. If so, I guess when it comes to your personal lifestyle, you really don't prefer shiny pretty things.
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The boom would have occured with or without LA Live - a hotel complex would have gone up there given the timing...just not necessarily one as horrendous as LA Live. But tying this into my ad-nauseam point - mass transit and zoning allowances enabled the boom to manifest from day one. They are much more foundationally relevant.
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And you know this how? So if the devlpr of Staples Ctr, AEG, hadn't come along when they did, a whole line of equally well funded, committed & aggressive devlprs would have taken their place? They also would have put up with lawsuits, the low demand for new hotel space, & the historically poor reputation of DT?
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and to all of us here - you wanna see how shitty developing densely in LA is? look at LACMA - try to parse out in ballpark figures how much of that 160m or so of LACMA's expansion is going towards the 1200 car subterranean garage, or how many years WDCH was delayed because funding was depleted by garage construction. Try to imagine what else would have been built with the money spent on storing suburban cars for an hour and a half in bomb-proof caverns made of concrete, and try to imagine how different our city would have been had we had the infrastructure to enable alternate forms of mobility. This isn't about envy or dick-measuring. This is common sense.
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Common sense? Sorry, sounds more like painful naivete to me.
FYI, a performing arts complex was built recently in Miami, without any direct, convenient parking. Ppl attending events there have to walk back to & from their cars through a hood full of deadzones & dives. The hood also has a reputation for not being too safe. Many visitors have complained about the situation, & the Miami arts ctr has suffered from mediocre attendance.
BTW, Lincoln Ctr in NYC has a large underground parking garage.
As for museums, the expansion of LACMA back in the 1980s, which didn't include any parking garages whatsoever, also was a rather slapped together affair, where the budget never was big enough to do a really good, complete job. In fact, part of a new bldg built back then has always looked like the $$ ran out before the work was finished.
Another example of why it's a joke to claim that the LA museum's budget would have been OK were it not for accomodating a parking lot for cars: the Metropolitan museum in NYC last yr opened a renovated wing for ancient Greek & roman artwork, housed within
EXISTING space in the museum. That remodeling alone ($220 million) cost more than the totally new bldg
($56 million) & patio (a few million more) at LACMA, all part of phase 1, NOT phase 2.
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The image is catchy: a shiny red sculpture of a cracked egg by Jeff Koons that reflects the saw-toothed roof of the Broad Contemporary Art Museum, opening Feb. 16 at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. And the message, emblazoned on streetlight banners all over town, is clear: LACMA has a hip new attraction and you need to see it.
But the public emergence of the $56-million building designed by architect Renzo Piano and financed by philanthropist and LACMA trustee Eli Broad and his wife, Edythe, is far from the whole story.
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A concourse that he jokingly calls "a road to nowhere" leads to LACMA West, a former department store on the west side of the campus that's awaiting renovation this year. Upgrading that building's exhibition spaces and children's center, adding an upscale restaurant and book shop and creating a rooftop sculpture garden is part of Phase 2. Budgeted at $200 million and funded by a 30-year bond, the project also calls for LACMA's eighth building -- a Piano-designed exhibition pavilion with about 60,000 square feet of gallery space on top of the parking structure.
"LACMA is still an underfunded institution," Govan said, "but I am extremely encouraged. I have felt a wellspring of support, not only internally but from the community."
Largely dependent on the county in its early days, LACMA has built its $170-million endowment over the last few decades. But the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, has an endowment of $1.1 billion, the Cleveland Museum of Art has an $820-million endowment and the museum at the Art Institute of Chicago has an investment portfolio of $687.5 million.
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The week that the Metropolitan Museum of Art’s southernmost wing reopened as a restaurant in 1954, with outré birdcage chandeliers and a central pool dotted by whimsical muses, the architect Kevin Roche found himself eating there. “I had a nice lunch,” Mr. Roche, now 85, said. “That’s about as far as I thought about it.”
Kevin Roche has redesigned the Met’s Greek and Roman galleries. Over the last several years, however, that wing has been an abiding preoccupation for Mr. Roche, whose task has been to transform the space again into the Met’s new Greek and Roman galleries, which officially open on Friday.
The reconstruction of the galleries and adjacent areas — a 15-year, $220 million project — will enable the Met to exhibit some 5,300 works, or 95 percent of this collection, about half of which had been in storage in recent decades.
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And to not get even more OT, I happened to see the tinker toy parking structure across from Disney Hall tonight & noticed that cars still are being parked in it. The green tarp that was hanging throughout almost the entire lower level last wk, seemingly to be used as some kind of shield during demolition, was no where to be seen.
What the heck is that all about?!! I thought the Related Cos was gonna start tearing down that damn parking lot around now!
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