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Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 8:08 PM
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How do you create a strong, modern, and innovative parking lot?
Well I assume I'm no more of a fan of surface parking lots than you are, but if the current state of the building isn't much better than garbage, it'll have to pass through the parking lot stage before becoming something new.

The location is awesome - is it naive of me to assume that a condo developer will build there? If they're selling warehouse condos on Avenue D for $400,000 and up, why not on 20th and Ave B? I can't assume it'd stay empty for long, if at all.

If the owner decides to trash it, that doesn't negate the property tax still owed, right? Maybe the city will be more willing to buy an empty lot than one with the current Barry on it, and with all the press of a rental shortage, maybe they'll work to fast-track some affordable rental units in there.

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About 2nd Avenue Lofts (Bay Lofts)

I recall an inquiry a few days ago. Here is the lowdown from someone who is waiting for their condo to be built.....me.
The latest email we all got in January indicated that the project is behind schedule.....we knew that. The reason is a labour shortage and rising costs......we knew about that too. The plan was to put owners into their units from the top floor down, beginning in March. That means that they would complete the 5th floor first, then the 4th, and so on. Owners would complete the transaction and move in, with the 2nd floor owners last in line. As the developer could only close around 30 transactions per month.....people like me on the 2nd floor could anticipate a July close.
Are you following me so far?
But now, this plan is off, due to safety factors. The developer cannot move in people gradually, and that means that no deals will be closed until the project is finished in July.....or maybe August......who really knows.
We also know that the developer is holding some 30 units...to be put on the market in the Spring. We have seen the new prices and they are well into the 300k range. Good for us as this represents a significant increase over the original purchase price from 2006.....50-70%
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2008, 11:41 PM
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Yeah that sucks that the labour shortage of skilled tradespeople is slowing down construction. I am in the same boat as my house is already a month or two overdue.

Anyways, I read on MSNBC that Potash Corp of Saskatchewan claims that they are going to be one of the most profitable companies in the world in the next five years, according to their latest conference call.

We often talk of Cameco, or Shore Gold having the possibility of building a tower downtown, but in all likelihood, Potash, which already has a tower, (with their logo anyway, I am unsure of who the landlord is) could need new office space with another mine in the works to be built...
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2008, 2:59 AM
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so when is ken achs going to show us his plans for the King George? because i for one would reall like to see that.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2008, 3:04 AM
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i don't know either but i hope they show it, i am getting worried pretty soon there will only be the stucture left(pretty much is already) then i dont count it as a heritage building
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2008, 5:01 PM
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Yeah that sucks that the labour shortage of skilled tradespeople is slowing down construction. I am in the same boat as my house is already a month or two overdue.

Anyways, I read on MSNBC that Potash Corp of Saskatchewan claims that they are going to be one of the most profitable companies in the world in the next five years, according to their latest conference call.

We often talk of Cameco, or Shore Gold having the possibility of building a tower downtown, but in all likelihood, Potash, which already has a tower, (with their logo anyway, I am unsure of who the landlord is) could need new office space with another mine in the works to be built...
Good point. I have often wondered when (if not already) their office space needs will outgrow their present home at the Scotia Centre. Perhaps an announcement by PCS for an expansion/new tower will take us by surprise.

Also, it's been nothing but good news as of late for Federated Co-op. Maybe they'll be looking for some snazzier digs in the near future?
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2008, 8:32 PM
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Good point. I have often wondered when (if not already) their office space needs will outgrow their present home at the Scotia Centre. Perhaps an announcement by PCS for an expansion/new tower will take us by surprise.

Also, it's been nothing but good news as of late for Federated Co-op. Maybe they'll be looking for some snazzier digs in the near future?
I used to work for FCL in Saskatoon and their office building was designed to be expanded to 18 stories if ever needed. There is an empty elevator shaft in the building to accommodate another 3 cars for a total of 6 cars. I wouldn't count of FCL building a new office tower anytime soon.
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Heritage advocate seeks new use for St. Mary school
Janet French, The StarPhoenix
Published: Tuesday, February 05, 2008

A local advocate wants the city's Municipal Heritage Advisory Committee to lobby to save the St. Mary Community School building.

"It has to be looked at. What could we do with this building other than just wipe it out?" says Margaret Hendry, a board member of the Saskatchewan Architectural Heritage Society and the Saskatoon Heritage Society. She also serves on the city's heritage committee.

Last year, the city and province announced plans to revitalize a swath of Pleasant Hill, including building a new St. Mary school and several new, affordable-housing projects. The city bought and demolished 29 decrepit rental houses to clear the way.

Greater Saskatoon Catholic Schools has said St. Mary is desperate for a new building. It has six portables, and earlier this year, classes were held in the library and teacher's lounge because of space constraints. The gym's boiler is ancient, the building isn't wheelchair accessible and St. Mary needs more space for after school courses, a pediatricians' clinic and other community programs.

The school division is now waiting for money from the provincial government to build the new school.

In the original drawings depicting a revitalized Pleasant Hill, there's a field where the existing St. Mary building sits.

Hendry wants the heritage advisory committee to talk about St. Mary at its Wednesday meeting so the committee will be prepared to weigh in when a proposal for development on the site inevitably comes before the city.

"It's always sad, it seems to me, to lose our significant buildings," Hendry said. "They're part of the city's fabric. For those reasons, I certainly think we have to consider what can be done with the building before we get rid of it. There is some sort of feeling that the building might just be demolished."

Don Lloyd, superintendent of administrative services with the Catholic school division, said the school board and Ministry of Education have yet to decide the fate of Saskatoon's first Catholic school, built in 1913.

"If someone came forward and had an idea to reuse it, I certainly think the board would consider all requests," Lloyd said.

In the long term, the division has no interest in owning or maintaining the building, he said. Bringing St. Mary up to current building codes would require millions of dollars, he said.

In three weeks, the school board will get a first look at two proposals to renovate and re-use the building, he said -- one proposing a community centre and the other to convert it into housing.

The board is open to any proposal that would benefit the school, its students and the community, he said -- in other words, they're not looking for something like a night club.

Demolition is still an option, Lloyd said. Part of the revitalization plan is to increase green space in the area. It's also possible the land could be used for an ice rink, he said.

The division is cognizant of St. Mary's history, he said. He hopes the new building incorporates pieces of the original school, such as its cornerstone. A new St. Mary school would house a display with pictures and historical information about the original building.

Coun. Pat Lorje said Pleasant Hill residents should have a say in the fate of the building on the 300 block of Avenue O South.

She's heard suggestions from, "knock it down yesterday," to "save some of the facade and incorporate it into a new building."

"They haven't been saying, 'Improve the school for our kids,' " she said.

Lorje can see the building housing condominiums or as a community centre.

Hendry said her attempt to raise awareness about St. Mary's historical significance is not a bid to seek heritage status for the building, or to add it to the city's heritage registry. Those designations protect buildings from changes that would interfere with the historical aspects of the property.

Hendry said she's "relieved" to hear the school board will keep the school's heritage in mind.

"I'm glad to hear that there has been some consideration to there being alternative uses," she said.

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Old Posted Feb 6, 2008, 12:24 AM
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Just doing some late night research for a project and stumbled across some images worth presenting.

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Grain silo becomes student housing

An abandoned grain silo that stood in the heart of what's now one of Oslo's trendy urban neighborhoods got a new lease on life this week. It re-opened as arguably one of the world's most unique student housing complexes.


Most of the rooms in the grain silo's 226 flats are, not surprisingly, round with specially designed furniture.


All of the small flats were quickly rented out, with monthly fees averaging NOK 3,500 (about USD 400.) Larger units on top floors can cost more than USD 1,000 a month.


The unusual complex features 22 studio units, 165 one-bedroom units og 36 with two separate rooms.


The city hopes a dilapidated heating station near the silo can be converted into a restaurant or gallery of some sort.


Rents rise in accordance with the floor a unit is on, with the most expensive on the southwest corner at the top.


The view is stunning from the silo's rooftop terrace, which is open to all residents.


The silos were built in 1953 and used until 1990. Oslo's student housing agency bought the structure last year for NOK 20.7 million (about USD 2 million.)


Architecture professor Thomas Thiis-Evensen thinks it will be an exciting place to live.


The project is the first of its kind in Norway, but such imaginative housing already has been built in Copenhagen, Argentina and the US.


Rounded walls called for special furnishing.


The complex consists of 21 concrete tubes, five meters in diameter, and is 18 stories high.

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I wonder if they actually use the entire capacity of those silos?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2008, 3:23 PM
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Good post!

That would be cool to convert our flour mill into condo's.

Or not... I dunno. That would be a huge "project."
     
     
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I think it's pretty cool that it's an operational flour mill that actually employs people. More residents in the downtown area is great, but we don't want to exclude all other uses. Part of the benefit of living in the core is being close to work.
     
     
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This says nothing new, but there's been little to go on lately.

Cameco To Move Downtown?


Wednesday, 06 February 2008
Cameco has reported record net earnings for 2007 of 603 million dollars.



The largest uranium producer in the world's earnings were 120 percent high than 2006 thanks to to higher earnings in the uranium, electricity and gold businesses.

President and CEO Jerry Grandey says relocating the headquarters to downtown is still an option, especially because at the current location they are bulging at the seams.

Meanwhile last month at the State of the City Address, Mayor Don Atchison suggested it would be nice to have a 30 storey Cameco building built downtown making it the tallest in the province.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2008, 11:11 PM
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neat post saskftw,

of course our would have problems at the moment to be built for example,

i believe they are still in use
2 of them
both are around twice as big as the one you show which would need a bigger developer

but if built i would love a condo in one

and mabey that would be a good observation deck because you could see almost any important spot from there weir, downtown, river
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How about keeping it as a place of employment?!
     
     
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This says nothing new, but there's been little to go on lately.

Cameco To Move Downtown?


Wednesday, 06 February 2008
Cameco has reported record net earnings for 2007 of 603 million dollars.



The largest uranium producer in the world's earnings were 120 percent high than 2006 thanks to to higher earnings in the uranium, electricity and gold businesses.

President and CEO Jerry Grandey says relocating the headquarters to downtown is still an option, especially because at the current location they are bulging at the seams.

Meanwhile last month at the State of the City Address, Mayor Don Atchison suggested it would be nice to have a 30 storey Cameco building built downtown making it the tallest in the province.
Nothing new, but there has been a lot of mention about it lately, which I think is a promising sign. The more the media hypes it up the better imo. Could we hear an announcement this summer?
     
     
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How about keeping it as a place of employment?!
How many people are actually employed there? Perhaps a segment of the storage silos could be converted? I have not done an economic analysis of such a project, but I am curious to know how much each silo contributes to our economy ($ wise), and compare the benefits with the costs to develop the space into living quarters.

With the close proximity to Downtown/SIAST/Warehouse District these silos and the land they occupy will only become more valuable (especially for other uses; parks, residences, recreation) as time passes.

Something to keep in mind as we continue the push for more core growth while limiting growth on our peripheries.

A better return on investment? Perhaps
     
     
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I attended the Collers Breakfast this morning and to say the least it was very informative and gave us a real glimpse of what to expect in the coming year. Although a lot of it was tom reading off a lot of number he spoke of continued growth and a center that is a leader in canada in terms of retail growth and pricing for industrial properties. forgive me if some of the details are a little weak, it was 7:30 in the morning. Tom expects an announcement in the next 12-48 months and i quote "1 to 2" office towers in the downtown. to realise this though, current lease rates which seem ridicilously priced at 15-20 /sqft will have to increase to 30 for any company or developer to justify new construction. to give a glimpse of wher we are in comparison, a developer with no main tenant has an office tower goin up that will house 1.3 million sq ft. this same number represents all of the square footage in all of downtown saskatoon. amazing. he spoke of our industiral land outside the city and because there has been such a shortage, huge lots for industrial subdivions or business parks are being bought along highway 16. also the prime 26 acres in the university heights area is set to go on sale somtime this year. im sure there is more but i was half asleep, but enjoyed the news on our hot market.
     
     
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^I would really love more detail on all of this.

Your comment about the 1.3 million sq ft tower, is that a current proposal from a developer, or a general example of a typical office tower of a given height?
     
     
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Your comment about the 1.3 million sq ft tower, is that a current proposal from a developer, or a general example of a typical office tower of a given height?
Someone correct me if I am wrong. The Bow in Calgary will be 1.7 mil sq ft., just for comparison sake.

The latest data I could find for Saskatoon is from Q3 07. Saskatoon's total office inventory is 1.8 mil sq ft and a vacancy rate of 5%, Class A (two Scotia Center towers plus Saskatoon Square) space is 442,000 sq ft and a vacancy rate of 2.3%. The average sq ft rent for class A was sitting at 23.20.

I think its a question of when and not if a new class A tower is needed, its yet to be seen what size of tower we will see. If Cameco enters the mix, then we may see two.

I wonder how much sq ft Cameco's current headquarters has, and how much the current expansion will add?
     
     
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