HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > City Compilations


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #2301  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 2:52 AM
427MM's Avatar
427MM 427MM is offline
Love Austin
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,243
Wow, Four Seasons is U/C. I’m a huge fan of most everything about this building. The location is fun, there are few obstructions around and even fewer possibilities of some cropping up in the future. The design is gorgeous; it looks like one of those designs that appear great in a rendering and has the potential to look even better once built. Do you sense a ‘but’ coming? I can’t for the life of me understand why they are planning, according to what I have seen, to leave the top level of the garage exposed to the residents. All of the renderings I have seen have very discreetly hidden this fact, but the flyby video they have clearly shows that the south facing units will look down at a parking lot. However, if this ends up being the worse part of this project I think it will be a success. The rooftop amenities are going to be a real treat for the residents, I guess it’s a trade-off. Overall, this is one really exciting project. We really are lucky here in Austin. While the rest of the country wallows in the sub-prime driven credit crunch, we are still moving forward with incredibly exciting projects. Life is good in the ATX.
__________________
How long will Austinites tolerate NIMBY politicians?
     
     
  #2302  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 1:54 PM
Saddle Man Saddle Man is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,149
/\/\/\/\ It could be a green roof.
     
     
  #2303  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 2:18 PM
ATXboom ATXboom is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,832
http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/realestate/01/30/0130crestview.html

Crestview Station breaks ground Friday
First phase of transit-oriented development to have apartments, retail and office

By M.B. Taboada

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Construction on the first phase of Crestview Station, which promises to transform an old industrial site into one of Austin's biggest transit-oriented developments, will begin Friday.

The entire 73-acre, mixed-use project will be on a previously contaminated site in the North Austin neighborhood that requiredmore than 18 months and $5.5 million of environmental cleanup efforts before construction could begin.


JAMES HARTWICK AND PARTNERS INC.

(enlarge photo)
The first phase of a 73-acre, mixed-use development planned for North Austin will have live/work spaces, at left in rendering, as well as buildings for office and retail establishments.


JAMES HARTWICK AND PARTNERS INC.

(enlarge photo)
A rendering shows what the view will be down St. Johns Avenue from North Lamar Boulevard in the Crestview development. Completion of the development will take five to seven years.



(enlarge photo)


The $100 million project, which will be on the Capital Metro commuter rail line that is scheduled to start service this year, is expected to bring housing and retail and office spaceto the neighborhood.

On Friday, developers Stratus Properties Inc. and Trammell Crow Co. received the site development permit from the city. A month ago, they began digging a three-acre retention pond under another permit.

"The Crestview project will be a catalyst for redevelopment in this area," said Eric DeJernett, senior vice president and a Crestview project coordinator for Trammell Crow. "It's going to change the landscape in that part of town and create a lot of excitement for that area."

It will be the first big transit-oriented development on the rail line and will be well under way by the time the station opens in the fall. The site is bordered by North Lamar Boulevard and Morrow Street.

High Street Residential, a Trammell Crow subsidiary, will develop the first phase, Midtown Commons at Crestview, about 20 acres that wraps around the train station and includes 340 apartments. The first phase also will include 32,000 square feet of retail space and 32,000 square feet of office space. The retail section will include restaurants, shops and possibly a small grocery store, but developers have not begun signing tenants.

The apartments will have an average of 850 square feet. Studios will have 550 square feet, and two-bedroom unitswill have up to 900 square feet. Rents will average about $1.50 per square foot, or $1,125 for a 750-square-foot apartment.

"It's a true village," said Art Lomenick, managing director of Trammell Crow Co. and High Street Residential. "To have 70 acres to craft into an urban village is pretty unique to in-town Austin."

The company can build up to 900 more units in two or three more phases, which will probably include townhomes, duplexes, fourplexes and condominiums.

The second phase of the project, which will include 450 single-family homes, may begin in six months, and some of the homes may be ready as early as March 2009. Completion of the development will take five to seven years.

Austin Energy plans to purchase a two-acre site on the northern end of the tract to build a utility substation.

Within transit-oriented developments,"it'simportant to have a lot of density and mix of products and prices," said Stratus chief executive Beau Armstrong. "We worked hard to come up with that mix, and I think we've done it."

Originally, two national builders expressed interest in developing the single-family home project, but the housing slowdown has led to a change in plans. Stratus now plans to be the developer and sell lots to two or three builders, Armstrong said. Home prices will start in the mid-$200,000s.

The environmental cleanup of the Crestview site was completed last year by Weston Solutions Inc. The company was hired to demolish the buildings that were once occupied by a Huntsman Corp. research facility and to clean up the site. Huntsman, which was on the site from 1949 to 2005, tested products that went into detergent, soap and foam. After the cleanup, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality last year approved residential use of the site.

[email protected]; 912-2942
     
     
  #2304  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 7:24 PM
KevinFromTexas's Avatar
KevinFromTexas KevinFromTexas is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Austin<--->Birmingham<--->Atlanta
Posts: 55,832
I just got off the phone with someone with 21C. I was hoping to get some height info for it and maybe find out how soon we can expect it to break ground. I also asked for permission to use the building's renderings at Emporis. He said that right now they're "tweaking" the design. So he asked me to hold off on using the current renderings. He said everything inside would stay the same, but that the height and a few details would change. I got the drift that these were just minor changes in the design, not a major reduction. However, we'll see. He said that they should know for sure what the final design and height will be around March or April. So he asked that I call back then to get the details. I also asked then that if the design is different could I use the renderings, and he basically said yes. So, by either March or April we could be hearing some new news about 21C.

I complimented the building, saying I really liked the design. He said he loves Austin and that it's one of the places he really would like to expand into. By the way, his area code was 210, (San Antonio).
__________________
My girlfriend has a poodle named Kevin.
     
     
  #2305  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 7:44 PM
M1EK's Avatar
M1EK M1EK is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,193
Re: the Crestview development's claim to TOD, here's something I wrote on that subject a while back.
     
     
  #2306  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 9:35 PM
JGFrisco JGFrisco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 159
Thanks for the info re 21c.

I'll bet large that it's not 580' tall. I'm guessing closer to 400'-450'. We'll see...
     
     
  #2307  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 10:18 PM
JGFrisco JGFrisco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 159
One a note a bit away from buildings, but in the mode of Austin growth, a Mexican low-fare carrier called Vivaaerobus is going to start flying into Austin on May 1. They will use a separate building called the South Terminal, and they'll have daily flights to Monterrey and Cancun, on 737's.

The airline is patterned after Skybus, if you've ever flown them, and they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Like Skybus, they have a few seats on every flight that are ten bucks, but there's also about a 50 dollar per segment security and int'l fee. I found one going outbound on July 12 and returning July 16, for ten bucks plus fees each way...a total of $118 round trip! That's Austin-Cancun, nonstop. Monterrey is the same.

This is a lot like Skybus - checking baggage is extra...they have no phone reservations...soft drinks cost cash too. It's definitely cheap as hell...but at $118 round trip to Cancun, you can't beat the fare.

The airline is at www.vivaaerobus.com

PS If you are wondering what kind of fly-by-night outfit this is, they have pretty reputable backers. The biggest backer is the owners of RyanAir, the European version of Southwest. They also own a big stake in Allegiant Air here in the US.
     
     
  #2308  
Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 10:40 PM
priller's Avatar
priller priller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,979
Yeah, there's an ongoing thread on this subject here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140690
     
     
  #2309  
Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 2:13 AM
crewer crewer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Palm Springs, CA
Posts: 317
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas View Post
I just got off the phone with someone with 21C. I was hoping to get some height info for it and maybe find out how soon we can expect it to break ground. I also asked for permission to use the building's renderings at Emporis. He said that right now they're "tweaking" the design. So he asked me to hold off on using the current renderings. He said everything inside would stay the same, but that the height and a few details would change. I got the drift that these were just minor changes in the design, not a major reduction. However, we'll see.
I heard several days ago that the building was going into a redesign because of the steep rise in building costs. So I'm thinking it might be a little more than a "tweak", but I guess we'll see. I would hate to see too much change on it. Frankly, I think it's one of the best-designed projects in downtown.
__________________
Crewer
     
     
  #2310  
Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 2:19 AM
crewer crewer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Palm Springs, CA
Posts: 317
Quote:
Originally Posted by JGFrisco View Post
One a note a bit away from buildings, but in the mode of Austin growth, a Mexican low-fare carrier called Vivaaerobus is going to start flying into Austin on May 1. They will use a separate building called the South Terminal, and they'll have daily flights to Monterrey and Cancun, on 737's.
Along those lines, I heard Air Canada is returning to Austin in May with daily non-stops to Toronto. Glad to see them back. Hopefully the route will stay in place this time.
__________________
Crewer
     
     
  #2311  
Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 4:37 PM
GoldenBoot's Avatar
GoldenBoot GoldenBoot is offline
Member since 2001
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Terra Firma
Posts: 3,441
Quote:
Originally Posted by JGFrisco View Post
One a note a bit away from buildings, but in the mode of Austin growth, a Mexican low-fare carrier called Vivaaerobus is going to start flying into Austin on May 1. They will use a separate building called the South Terminal, and they'll have daily flights to Monterrey and Cancun, on 737's.

The airline is patterned after Skybus, if you've ever flown them, and they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. Like Skybus, they have a few seats on every flight that are ten bucks, but there's also about a 50 dollar per segment security and int'l fee. I found one going outbound on July 12 and returning July 16, for ten bucks plus fees each way...a total of $118 round trip! That's Austin-Cancun, nonstop. Monterrey is the same.

This is a lot like Skybus - checking baggage is extra...they have no phone reservations...soft drinks cost cash too. It's definitely cheap as hell...but at $118 round trip to Cancun, you can't beat the fare.

The airline is at www.vivaaerobus.com

PS If you are wondering what kind of fly-by-night outfit this is, they have pretty reputable backers. The biggest backer is the owners of RyanAir, the European version of Southwest. They also own a big stake in Allegiant Air here in the US.

Actually, it's run by and modeled after Ireland's RyanAir...
__________________
AUSTIN (City): 1,002,632 +4.64% - '20-'25 | AUSTIN MSA (5 counties): 2,620,945 +14.78% - '20-'25
SAN ANTONIO (City): 1,548,422 +8.03% - '20-'25 | SAN ANTONIO MSA (8 counties): 2,813,140 +9.97% - '20-'25
AUS-SAT REGION (MSAs/13 counties): 5,434,085 +12.24% - '20-'25 | *SRC: US Census*
     
     
  #2312  
Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 4:40 PM
GoldenBoot's Avatar
GoldenBoot GoldenBoot is offline
Member since 2001
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Terra Firma
Posts: 3,441
Quote:
Originally Posted by JGFrisco View Post
Thanks for the info re 21c.

I'll bet large that it's not 580' tall. I'm guessing closer to 400'-450'. We'll see...

400'-450' only if they cut 10-14 stories from the original 44-story tower portion...We'll see in a few months. Actually, we might get a hint this afternoon - 21C's zoning case goes before Council today (agenda item #120)!
__________________
AUSTIN (City): 1,002,632 +4.64% - '20-'25 | AUSTIN MSA (5 counties): 2,620,945 +14.78% - '20-'25
SAN ANTONIO (City): 1,548,422 +8.03% - '20-'25 | SAN ANTONIO MSA (8 counties): 2,813,140 +9.97% - '20-'25
AUS-SAT REGION (MSAs/13 counties): 5,434,085 +12.24% - '20-'25 | *SRC: US Census*
     
     
  #2313  
Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 9:41 PM
JGFrisco JGFrisco is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 159
44 stories at 11' per story is 484'. The penthouses will be taller...some lower levels may be shorter, but I've never seen how it would get to 580'. That's closer to 13' per story, which is along the lines of office construction, not hotel or residential.
     
     
  #2314  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 1:18 AM
Nashvegas06 Nashvegas06 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3
Well we made it to Austin and love it so far. I posted awhile back that we were moving from Nashville. I would like to see and learn more about Austin. Do you guys have forum meetings? I used to post on the Nashville Urban Planet site and we had meetings once a month. It was cool info and we to some great photos of the city. Truth is we live in Buda and I work in New Braunfels. So Austin was in my heart just not the traffic.
__________________
"TIME is what you make of it, and LIFE is what you make of TIME"
     
     
  #2315  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 2:50 AM
KevinFromTexas's Avatar
KevinFromTexas KevinFromTexas is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Austin<--->Birmingham<--->Atlanta
Posts: 55,832
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nashvegas06 View Post
Well we made it to Austin and love it so far. I posted awhile back that we were moving from Nashville. I would like to see and learn more about Austin. Do you guys have forum meetings? I used to post on the Nashville Urban Planet site and we had meetings once a month. It was cool info and we to some great photos of the city. Truth is we live in Buda and I work in New Braunfels. So Austin was in my heart just not the traffic.
Yep. We have a forum meet about every 6 months or so. The last one was in December.

Here's the pictures from the last one.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=142369&highlight=forum
__________________
My girlfriend has a poodle named Kevin.
     
     
  #2316  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 4:34 AM
KevinFromTexas's Avatar
KevinFromTexas KevinFromTexas is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Austin<--->Birmingham<--->Atlanta
Posts: 55,832
I finally made it up to the new ACC South Austin Campus parking garage this afternoon. There was a really good view of Palisades West from up there.


See more pics here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=145255
__________________
My girlfriend has a poodle named Kevin.
     
     
  #2317  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 11:23 AM
Nickelplate's Avatar
Nickelplate Nickelplate is offline
De Lurk Squad
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 298
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas View Post
I finally made it up to the new ACC South Austin Campus parking garage this afternoon. There was a really good view of Palisades West from up there.


See more pics here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=145255
Now if only Rio Grande campus could get a parking garage we would be set!
     
     
  #2318  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 3:50 PM
MichaelB MichaelB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North edge of Downtown
Posts: 3,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas View Post
I just got off the phone with someone with 21C. I was hoping to get some height info for it and maybe find out how soon we can expect it to break ground. I also asked for permission to use the building's renderings at Emporis. He said that right now they're "tweaking" the design. So he asked me to hold off on using the current renderings. He said everything inside would stay the same, but that the height and a few details would change. I got the drift that these were just minor changes in the design, not a major reduction. However, we'll see. He said that they should know for sure what the final design and height will be around March or April. So he asked that I call back then to get the details. I also asked then that if the design is different could I use the renderings, and he basically said yes. So, by either March or April we could be hearing some new news about 21C.

I complimented the building, saying I really liked the design. He said he loves Austin and that it's one of the places he really would like to expand into. By the way, his area code was 210, (San Antonio).
Hey Kev....

Good info! Thanks...... glad you told them you liked design. They are a very design conscience group and like to know folks are watching! I would encourage folks to randomly drop them an email... express interest in the building and let them know part of your attraction is the design!
     
     
  #2319  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 3:52 PM
MichaelB MichaelB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North edge of Downtown
Posts: 3,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBoot View Post
400'-450' only if they cut 10-14 stories from the original 44-story tower portion...We'll see in a few months. Actually, we might get a hint this afternoon - 21C's zoning case goes before Council today (agenda item #120)!
How can we find out detials? Is there a place on the city web-stuff that we can get the info from?

Thanks
     
     
  #2320  
Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 3:53 PM
MichaelB MichaelB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North edge of Downtown
Posts: 3,266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nashvegas06 View Post
Well we made it to Austin and love it so far. I posted awhile back that we were moving from Nashville. I would like to see and learn more about Austin. Do you guys have forum meetings? I used to post on the Nashville Urban Planet site and we had meetings once a month. It was cool info and we to some great photos of the city. Truth is we live in Buda and I work in New Braunfels. So Austin was in my heart just not the traffic.
Welcome!!!!!!
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Closed Thread

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > City Compilations
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:18 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.