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Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 6:01 AM
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No 🞵🞵🞵🞵. Such a bad idea. One of the lamest Canadian corporations comes to Commercial? Expand your base in Maple Ridge, etc. where you're appreciated and you "belong".
Haha funny you bring that up, there is a new tim horton's going in at lougheed and 224th in maple ridge.

They are taking over....ahhh!
     
     
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Haha funny you bring that up, there is a new tim horton's going in at lougheed and 224th in maple ridge.

They are taking over....ahhh!
There should be more Tim Hortons, really. I don't like Starbucks... I just can't go to them in North America. They have much better drinks in Asia along with a selection of fresh food and cookies that don't have mold growing on them, somehow?
     
     
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There should be more Tim Hortons, really. I don't like Starbucks... I just can't go to them in North America. They have much better drinks in Asia along with a selection of fresh food and cookies that don't have mold growing on them, somehow?
That's cause the food at TimHo is laced with formaldehyde.
     
     
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That's cause the food at TimHo is laced with formaldehyde.
Well, I don't eat their food either. But I did have a dangerous iced cap obsession awhile back. It'd just be nicer for there to be more of them... the nearest one to me is in the Pacific Centre and I have to pass about 6 Starbucks on my way.
     
     
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Well, I don't eat their food either. But I did have a dangerous iced cap obsession awhile back. It'd just be nicer for there to be more of them... the nearest one to me is in the Pacific Centre and I have to pass about 6 Starbucks on my way.
I went to visit someone at Royal Centre yesterday and to my amazement there is a new Starbucks across the way, not to mention the one in the Bentall food court (the one behind the BMO with the DiscoDiner or whatever it is).

However, if you ever visited Toronto, Ottawa or the Maritimes, you'd see a Tim Hortons on every corner.
     
     
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I went to visit someone at Royal Centre yesterday and to my amazement there is a new Starbucks across the way, not to mention the one in the Bentall food court (the one behind the BMO with the DiscoDiner or whatever it is).

However, if you ever visited Toronto, Ottawa or the Maritimes, you'd see a Tim Hortons on every corner.
Same as in Calgary, though Tim Hortons is becoming a bit more rare. My old neighborhood just got their first Starbucks, then their second, then their third... and a fourth express one is on the way all within a few block radius. My folks were so proud, as now its officially an up and coming neighborhood after 60 years. The scary thing is they plan to open 10,000+ locations a year worldwide, still.
     
     
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Same as in Calgary, though Tim Hortons is becoming a bit more rare. My old neighborhood just got their first Starbucks, then their second, then their third... and a fourth express one is on the way all within a few block radius. My folks were so proud, as now its officially an up and coming neighborhood after 60 years. The scary thing is they plan to open 10,000+ locations a year worldwide, still.
Yeah, their new plans are to slow down domestically (US/Canada) and concentrate on new markets. They are closing down some underperforming outlets and pulling out of some developments (even here).
     
     
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Haha funny you bring that up, there is a new tim horton's going in at lougheed and 224th in maple ridge.

They are taking over....ahhh!
I'm from Ontario originally so I've seen enough of Tim Horton's to last me a lifetime.
     
     
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I went to visit someone at Royal Centre yesterday and to my amazement there is a new Starbucks across the way, not to mention the one in the Bentall food court (the one behind the BMO with the DiscoDiner or whatever it is).

There's a new Starbucks going in at the corner of Main and 12th too, just down the street from the one already at Main and 15th. I wonder about the decision-making there though. JJ Bean, also at Main and 15th, clearly trumps Starbucks in terms of popularity and neighbourhood cool factor. Maybe opening further down the street at a busy intersection is intended to profit from some kind of distance. At 12th, there is a block in either direction without a coffee establishment of some kind, so shocking for that area, gasp!
     
     
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Maybe the Main&15th Starbucks will close.
     
     
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Maybe the Main&15th Starbucks will close.
Possibly but does Starbucks ever close locations? It seems to me that they tend to add rather than subtract. I could see the building it's currently in being demolished and turned into new condo/retail though. Maybe their lease is up and this is the preparation.
     
     
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Possibly but does Starbucks ever close locations? It seems to me that they tend to add rather than subtract. I could see the building it's currently in being demolished and turned into new condo/retail though. Maybe their lease is up and this is the preparation.
They claim they don't have to but of course they've had to. Usually when it happens every trace of a Starbucks having been there disappears within 24 hours. Or so I've read in Starbucked.
     
     
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Possibly but does Starbucks ever close locations? It seems to me that they tend to add rather than subtract. I could see the building it's currently in being demolished and turned into new condo/retail though. Maybe their lease is up and this is the preparation.
starbucks has closed a few stores - the biggie was the one on denman - they closed it and a new one opend at davie and denman

that old denman store was a unionized location - and starbucks has a habit of closing down the unionized ones and opening nearby - a dirty tactic but a sure way if busting the union
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From the Seattle P-I - but it may not apply to Canada

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Thursday, January 31, 2008
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Starbucks to close some stores, stop selling breakfast sandwiches
By CRAIG HARRIS
P-I REPORTER

Starbucks will say goodbye to its breakfast sandwiches, close about 100 underperforming U.S. locations and slow down the number of domestic openings as the once-go-go coffee company retools itself amid a slowing economy.

The changes, announced Wednesday along with modest first-quarter earnings, also include putting more emphasis on overseas expansion. Few stores will be closed in the Pacific Northwest, and employees at the shuttered stores will be transferred to other sites, said Chairman Howard Schultz, who took over as chief executive Jan. 7.

"It's important to understand a new day is here," Schultz said in an interview with the Seattle P-I after the earnings release. "We want to put the customer at the forefront of every decision we make, and we want to exceed their expectations at what we are doing."

Schultz, who replaced fired CEO Jim Donald, said a five-point plan on a "catalyst for change" would be revealed at the company's annual meeting March 19. While still growing the company, Schultz wants to return Starbucks to its roots of intimate coffee houses with unique drinks where baristas connect with customers.

Problems became public nearly one year ago when Schultz sent out a Valentine's Day memo, called "The Commoditization of the Starbucks Experience," lamenting challenges within Starbucks and the "watering down" of the company.

One way to turn back the clock is getting rid of the breakfast sandwiches, even though they bring in significant revenue and were seen as a way to compete for morning sales with McDonald's Corp., which is going head-to-head with Starbucks on coffee sales.

Starbucks employees had long complained the smell of egg-and-cheese sandwiches overpowered the aroma of coffee and cheapened the store experience, and Schultz agreed. He said input from baristas during the past three weeks influenced his decision.

The move to eliminate the sandwiches, which bring in more than $100 million in annual revenue, was "a tough decision, but it's a very easy decision on what is at stake," Schultz said. "For 35 years we have ethically sourced and roasted high-quality coffee by passionate people, and we should not do anything in the stores that is in conflict with that."

Schultz also said China remained the big prize for international growth, but the company also plans to move into Hungary and Poland. In 2009, Starbucks for the first time is planning to open more international stores than U.S. outlets.

"International will offset some of the weakness in the U.S. market," Schultz said.

Starbucks Corp. said profits for the quarter ended Dec. 30 totaled $208.1 million, a 2 percent increase compared with $205 million in net income a year ago. The earnings of 28 cents per share beat by a penny the estimate of Wall Street analysts. Revenue increased 17 percent to $2.77 billion, compared with $2.36 billion for the first quarter of 2007.

Schultz, who took Starbucks public in 1992 and was CEO from 1987 to 2000, is trying to resurrect the company's slumping stock price. Last year, shares dropped 42 percent, and the stock price closed Wednesday at $19.22, a nearly 4 percent drop from the previous day, on the Nasdaq stock market. Shares dropped slightly in after-hours trading, after the company's announcements.

Some analysts said they were disappointed more specific details weren't released.

"It's very difficult to get excited about the story," said Patricia Edwards, a retail analyst at Wentworth, Hauser and Violich in San Francisco. "It's one of those 'trust me' stories, but it (Starbucks) hasn't earned the trust in the last year or two."

Schultz said stores would begin phasing out breakfast sandwiches through the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 28, and they would be replaced with a healthy alternative.

"Customers have told us they want a healthy breakfast alternative, and no one has responded to that need," Schultz told analysts in a conference call.

Schultz didn't say what the company would sell in place of the sandwiches, which bring in about $35,000 in annual sales per store. But he told the P-I the company's food group would deliver a product that "wouldn't dilute the integrity or romance of coffee."

The company declined to disclose the precise number of stores selling the sandwiches, but it said the sandwiches were in 3,000 to 4,000 stores.

Based on those figures, the company could lose $105 million to $140 million in annual revenue. Schultz said the sandwiches had a small profit margin compared with coffee, but he did not disclose figures.

The company, which during the last quarter opened about eight stores a day, said it would open about five stores a day for the rest of the fiscal year.

Despite the slowdown, Starbucks still is the largest gourmet coffee chain in the world with 15,756 stores in 43 countries, including the U.S.

In November, the company started feeling a pinch from a slowing economy, and it lowered its estimated 2008 worldwide openings by 100 stores to 2,500 net new stores. That figure was lowered again Wednesday to 2,150 stores. The number of projected U.S. store openings will drop from 1,600 to 1,175, while the number of foreign stores will increase from 900 to 975.

In 2009, the company for the first time is projecting to open more stores overseas than in the U.S., which will have fewer than 1,000 new stores.
     
     
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speaking of starbucks - at that new big bend shopping place and that marine way shopping place - there is a starbucks on each side of marine way
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Business in Vancouver January 29-February 4, 2008; issue 953

Real estate roundup: Peter Mitham

We’re not immune to fallout from U.S.

Commercial investors may not be as lucky as consumers following bank’s cut in rates

It’s good news, really

Depending how you look at it, the Bank of Canada’s cut to its target interest rate last week and parallel moves to trim prime lending rates at banks across Canada offered the good news that speakers at the Urban Development Institute’s (UDI) annual industry outlook luncheon discussed just a few days before.

First, the good news: So far as the Bank of Canada’s 25-basis point cut to its target lending rate – now 4% – sets the pace for prime rates at retail banks across the country, it’s good news for consumers and the residential developers seeking to serve them. Parklane Homes Ltd. president Peeter Wesik, discounting the impact of the U.S. subprime mess in B.C., told the UDI audience that he expects interest rates to stay lower for the next 12 to 18 months. This certainly won’t dampen sales, he argued.

But don’t think the real estate market in B.C. is immune to fallout from the U.S. crisis, cautioned David Podmore, president and CEO of Concert Properties Ltd.

The bad news, as Avtar Bains, senior vice-president of Colliers International, explained, lies in the fact that commercial investors don’t stand to be as lucky as consumers. While interest rate cuts may buoy the hopes of home buyers, Bains said lenders are being more discriminating and paying close attention to the fundamentals of deals. In short, a cut to target interest rates won’t necessarily get passed along to investors seeking financing.

Spreads on bond rates mean properties such as the site of the Marketplace IGA in the 2000-block of West Broadway in Vancouver didn’t attract the dozen offers it might have a year ago. Six bids were on the table when the deadline for offers passed in early December. Still nice, but it’s not 2006 anymore – or 2005, 2004 or 2003.

“We’re going to be treating real estate assets on their own merits going forward,” Bains said. “We’re back to cash flow, back to fundamentals – and that’s a good thing.”

B.C. Place recommendation

More than a few ears perked up at the recent UDI luncheon when moderator David Negrin introduced David Podmore as the man with the keys to B.C. Place, someone people in the audience would want to talk to in the near future.

A rustle of voices swept through the room at the prospect, but Podmore, who serves as chair of B.C. Pavilion Corp. in addition to heading up Concert Properties Ltd., said that prospective buyers aren’t about to be invited to submit bids on the landmark stadium. “They might be eager to, but I won’t be talking with them,” Podmore said after the luncheon.

He added that recommendations on the future of the stadium, including whether or not it should be sold, aren’t about to be released.

“Not immediately, that’s for sure. We’re just evaluating all of the options,” he said. That’s not to say that a heightened sense of anticipation doesn’t exist. The property would be a lucrative development site, but Podmore wasn’t about to give away any secrets. “Just stay tuned!” he advised.

Courting buyers

One of the themes running through the various UDI outlook presentations was the presence of opportunities, regardless of market circumstances.

It’s something B.C. resort developers have seen. While the much-publicized woes of the U.S. housing market have dominated headlines, U.S. buyers are still buying resort properties in Canada. The new Revelstoke Mountain Resort, for example, has seen approximately half its condo units sell to U.S. buyers. Meanwhile, at Bear Mountain on Vancouver Island, sales to international buyers are strong, as many seek an alternative to softening asset values in the U.S. The real estate markets in Canada may not be entirely independent of markets south of the border, but buyers do feel they’re more resilient.

“We’ve seen a marked spike in interest in U.S. investors. They view Canada as a safe economic, safe lifestyle purchase – safe in many ways,” said Dale Sproule, director of real estate for Bear Mountain Master Partnership.

While U.S. buyers account for no more than 7% of buyers at Bear Mountain, Sproule expects to see more. A new marketing centre that opened in Arizona on January 11 has boosted inquiries from the U.S. by 42%.

Approximately 90% of the units Bear Mountain has offered to the market have sold, Sproule said, with a further 3,000 units set for release over the next 10 years.
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so im at home this afternoon relaxing and i look at of my window and see this, and i thought 🞵🞵🞵, anyone know what this is? im assuming its for the olympic village.



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Very odd.

Cisterns maybe? Or perhaps something to do with the neighbourhood energy utility?
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they look like giant warheads.... they must be taking this olympic security seriously!
     
     
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