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Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 8:08 PM
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Hello everybody,

I have been lurking here form some time and now I actually have something to contribute...well ask as meaningfully question. I was walking to class today at the Brickyard and noticed there was a sign for a zone change (at least i think it was a zone change, the big red one) over by the Jack in the Box and the cyber Cafe. It mentioned something around 1.2 million sqft with 3 building, hotel, residential, and commercial. Does anybody know something about this?

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Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 8:34 PM
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Hello everybody,

I have been lurking here form some time and now I actually have something to contribute...well ask as meaningfully question. I was walking to class today at the Brickyard and noticed there was a sign for a zone change (at least i think it was a zone change, the big red one) over by the Jack in the Box and the cyber Cafe. It mentioned something around 1.2 million sqft with 3 building, hotel, residential, and commercial. Does anybody know something about this?

Thanks
Hi and welcome to the board. Follow the link I have posted below, I hope it answers your question. Unfortunately there is not a rendering provided, but I think I have seen one around here somewhere of what it is supposed to look like. The rendering may be buried pages deep on the thread, but not totally sure.

http://www.tempe.gov/maps/DevProjectDetails.aspx?LocationID=44e317ae-c148-4927-99e0-226d2ab20d4c

Follow this link to see more information about projects in Tempe.
http://www.tempe.gov/maps/Map.aspx?Map=MillAve
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 8:42 PM
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Hello everybody,

I have been lurking here form some time and now I actually have something to contribute...well ask as meaningfully question. I was walking to class today at the Brickyard and noticed there was a sign for a zone change (at least i think it was a zone change, the big red one) over by the Jack in the Box and the cyber Cafe. It mentioned something around 1.2 million sqft with 3 building, hotel, residential, and commercial. Does anybody know something about this?

Thanks
Welcome to the forum!!! The plans quoted on the Tempe dev web site for this project haven't been updated in a few years. I don't recall ever seeing a rendering, but I know many people (including myself) are upset they tore down Long Wong's so prematurely.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2008, 8:56 PM
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Speaking of Long Wong's...that reminds me...I forgot to mention...the southwest corner of University and Mill and the adjoining properties where the dry cleaners and the last location of Long Wong's is completely razed now. It looks like they are about to begin construction of the new CVS Pharmacy. Like that really excites me...yiippeee

But anyway that eyesore of a corner will at least get spruced up. Anyway, this was just an update about what is going on at that corner because it has been discussed here before.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 7:39 AM
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Welcome to the forum!!! The plans quoted on the Tempe dev web site for this project haven't been updated in a few years. I don't recall ever seeing a rendering, but I know many people (including myself) are upset they tore down Long Wong's so prematurely.
Thanks for the info. It makes sense that it has been a while since the site was updates, there isn't even a date on the sign. I agree with you on Long Wong's being torn down so early and then their new place get hit with the same thing. Do they have any plans to open up again on or near Mill and campus?
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 1:34 PM
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anything new on Tempe Project.

I think everything has stop in Tempe.

NO pier 202, no Le meridien, no Onyx, no Westin.

I guess they might even cancel some of those project.

I think Glendale has more project starting soon than Tempe
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 2:14 PM
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The 7th and Mill project has been floating around for a while...

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I knew this was coming: Tempe continues to get taller! Another set of skyscrapers proposed on the old Long Wong's site across the street from Borders (7th St. & Mill).



High-rise proposed on former Tempe bar site

By Garin Groff, Tribune
February 9, 2007


On what is now a gravel lot on Mill Avenue, the dilapidated but beloved Long Wong’s bar helped elevate local bands like the Gin Blossoms to national acts. Now, a developer wants to boost the image of the former bar site by building an 18-story hotel and two 25-story condo towers.

Paragon, a Las Vegas-based developer, unveiled plans this week for a project that would become the fifth in downtown Tempe with buildings of 18 or more stories.

The hotel would feature a spa and fit- ness center on its second floor, allowing those in the facility to overlook Mill Avenue — and letting people on the street see people working out.

The fitness center would be open to guests, condo owners and the public. That component would be combined with housing, stores and restaurants that would line the street level and create a mix of uses that are rarely found in a single development, project architect Mike Rumpeltin said.

“There are very few projects like this in the country,” said Rumpeltin, of RSP Architects, Ltd.

Paragon hopes the city will approve the project this year. If that happens, the company plans to start construction in July 2008 and open the project two years later.

The $225 million development would run along Seventh Street from Mill to Myrtle avenues, where it would back up to an equally tall tower at the University Square project that includes a hotel, offices and condos.

The project has been a decade in the making.

Las Vegas real estate investor Mario Sanchez bought the Long Wong’s site on Mill about 10 years ago, said John Cahill, Paragon’s vice president. Sanchez bought another parcel at Seventh and Myrtle several years later and then spent several years buying several small lots in between what he already owned.

The developer bulldozed the building that housed Long Wong’s and other small businesses more than a year ago. The vacant property has bothered many merchants and city officials.

Pam Goronkin, executive director of the Downtown Tempe Community, said merchants were happy to see that something was being done with the property.

But she said it’s regrettable that the developer couldn’t also buy the aging Jack in the Box on Mill. It’s the only business left downtown with its own parking lot and driveway, a suburban-type development that downtown planners would prefer to see replaced with an urban building. But the owner wasn’t willing to sell.

“We’ve lived with it a long time,” Goronkin said. “Although I would rather see it incorporated in the project, those people have a right to do what they want with their own property.”

Several things haven’t been determined yet, including the name, condo prices and the hotel brand.

The project includes a redbrick facade on Mill and on Seventh to match surrounding buildings, but the towers will sport steel and glass. The buildings fit within the city’s height guidelines except for the hotel, which would jut above the 150-foot height guideline for that part of the property.

The project’s overall height concerns Councilman Ben Arredondo. He’s objected to heights of some other projects and insisted that the neighboring University Square should not go an inch over the 300-foot limit.

Arredondo said he’s not thrilled to hear part of this project goes over the guideline.

“I thought we agreed to a height limit and not a fudge factor,” he said.

Arredondo said he checks any tall buildings to see if they are too close to neighborhoods or if block the view of Hayden Butte. Those seem to be the biggest concerns of Tempeans, he said.

“They aren’t too concerned when they’re right downtown on Mill,” Arredondo said. “But when it goes over by College Avenue or further to the railroad tracks on the west side, they start to get concerned.”

The project’s condo towers would tie with University Square for the second tallest buildings in Tempe at about 300 feet. The tallest buildings will be three 30-story, 343-foot condo towers at Centerpoint Condominiums.

The project

A hotel and condo project at Mill Avenue and Seventh Street includes:

• 240 hotel rooms

• 370 residential units

• 1.1 million square feet

• Conference center, spa and fitness center

• 34,000 square feet for restaurants and shops

Hotel/condo towers

Proposed 18-story hotel and two 25-story condo towers. Construction planned to start mid-2008 if approved.

Centerpoint Condominiums

One 22-story and one 30-story tower under construction. Two more 30-story towers planned.

Mosaic

One 18-story condo tower. Construction in early stages now.

Armory

Two condo towers, 20 stories and 14 or 15 stories, which has not been determined. Construction begins May.

University Square

Three towers ––office, condo and hotel. One tower will reach 300 feet ––more than 20 stories, but the exact number of floors isn’t determined. Construction begins this year.

SOURCE: Tempe; Paragon

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Here is a scan of today's East Valley Tribune's front page of the article:



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Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 9:06 PM
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they will probably cancel at least half if not more of those projects
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2008, 10:36 PM
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anything new on Tempe Project.

I think everything has stop in Tempe.

NO pier 202, no Le meridien, no Onyx, no Westin.

I guess they might even cancel some of those project.

I think Glendale has more project starting soon than Tempe
Well, there is quite a bit of activity in Tempe, even though there are quite a few quiet projects. Here is a list, which doesn't include all the projects west of Ash or east of Lemon nearing completion.

Nearing completion:

- The transportation hub
- The dorms/apartments on the south side of Apache.
- The Four Points Hotel (Holiday Inn renovation)
- Centrepoint towers I and II
- Hayden Ferry
- Papago Gateway Center

Active:

- The US Airways site.
- 5th/Mill
- The honors villiage on the NW corner of Mill/Apache.
- Hayden Ferry
- Marriott Residence Inn

Quite Promising:

- The Monti's site development
- Mosaic (after several groundbreakings).
- The Centerpoint on Mill is quickly vacating its tennants (Harkins, Uno's, etc)
- Aloft (which may be under construction?)
- Le Meridien

I am sure I am missing quite a few!
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 2:56 PM
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Revamped Centerpoint takes shape in Tempe

Garin Groff, Tribune, February 1, 2008

Centerpoint on Mill could be known as much for the shops it has as for the merchants it used to have: Duck Soup, the Islands Fine Burgers, and now Harkins Theatres.

But the increasingly vacant southern end of downtown Tempe is poised to get new life as the center's owner has finalized evolving plans to redevelop the site.

Owner DMB had intentionally kept storefronts vacant to eventually tear down most of the buildings. DMB didn't want long-term leases to complicate the timing, but the downturn in the housing market delayed one phase of redevelopment, and DMB has signed leases for nearly every vacant shop.

The new merchants should appear in the coming months.

Downtown merchants and officials are eager to see new shops because of the image created by vacant stores.

"It's an understandable strategy and I don't hold DMB at fault, but the impact on downtown Tempe was not positive," said Chris Salomone, Tempe's community development manager. "In some people's minds, there could be the impression that downtown wasn't doing as well as it has been."

DMB has finished some minor renovations to the outside like new paint, awnings and fountain repairs.

One new tenant, 7th Heaven, is the result of calls from the community for a restaurant that serves breakfast, said Karrin Kunasek Taylor, a DMB vice president.

But one key spot will sit empty for some time, the Harkins site. DMB did not want to lose the 11-screen complex that closed in early January, Kunasek Taylor said, but it knew attendance had been dwindling as other Harkins complexes drew patrons.

Harkins opened what was then the biggest theater complex in the state in 1993 and it initially flourished. But the Valley-based company saw sales drop when it opened a theater nearby at Arizona Mills. And shortly after the Centerpoint theaters opened, the industry embraced stadium seating and freeway-adjacent locations.

"There was a quantum leap in the expectations of the theatergoing public," said Neil Calfee, Tempe's deputy community development manager.

The theater site is the first area DMB wants to remake by replacing the building with a 20-story hotel. DMB is in talks with various operators but does not have a timeline yet.

"As quickly as we can move forward with that piece of it, we will," Taylor Kunasek said.

City officials said they couldn't guess if DMB can get a hotel deal signed soon, given today's economic uncertainties. But they said the demand for hotels is still strong downtown, unlike the struggling condo market.

DMB plans two other projects. After the hotel, DMB would replace an office building with a taller one. Its last project would demolish the single-story shops along Mill Avenue to make way for multistory condos with new shops on the first floor.

DMB figures it will take a decade to redevelop what was one of downtown Tempe's first redevelopment projects.

Some lament the loss of theaters in a downtown where the city is encouraging residents to live in a self-sustaining area. Tempe probably prolonged the theater's presence, Calfee said, by offering a property tax break on it since 2004.

Harkins had studied whether it could reconfigure the theaters and make a profit in recent years, Calfee said, though it became clear more recently it couldn't compete with the Arizona Mills location and a Harkins Tempe Marketplace complex that opened last year.

He and others said the redeveloped Centerpoint will be better than what's there today.

The redevelopment will bring "short-term pain, long-term gain," said Chris Anaradian, Tempe's development services manager.

One major improvement will be a new plaza in front of the theater building. It's uninviting now, but Anaradian said new shops and restaurants will invite people to gather there.

The hotel, new office and condo towers will bring more people downtown and create a demand for new businesses, Anaradian said.

"What they're proposing is going to be really spectacular," he said.
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 4:18 PM
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Well we all know that all those proposed projects wont go through, but... here is some pictures to show a little bit of what is almost complete; Centerpoint & the light rail. It also looks to me that the 2nd tower is just about topped off? Well enjoy.














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Old Posted Feb 1, 2008, 7:11 PM
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very cool pics DesertDJ!

Friday, February 1, 2008
Wolff takes over Tempe lake project
The Business Journal of Phoenix - by Jan Buchholz Phoenix Business Journal
The Wolff Co. of Scottsdale quietly purchased 27 acres last year for the proposed Pier 202 project in Tempe and now is moving ahead with alternate plans for the site.

Wolff paid $43 million in August for the parcel, which lies north of Rio Salado Parkway and east of Rural Road.

The original developer, a joint venture of California-based Laguna Pacific Properties and Barker Pacific Group, paid the city of Tempe $42.5 million for the land just a few weeks earlier. The City Council had approved plans by the partnership, dubbed Pier 202 LLC, to develop 3.6 million square feet of hotel, retail, residential and office space on the site.

Pier 202 LLC then sold almost all of its interest in the project to The Wolff Co. in a deal that went largely unreported, but was confirmed this week.

"(Pier 202) had everything approved," said Peter Wolff, co-president and principal of The Wolff Co. "We tend to like to pick something up when it's all figured out. They created a bunch of value."

Brad Gorman, CEO of Laguna Pacific Properties and the point person for Pier 202 LLC, said The Wolff Co. merely is a "capital partner." He disputed reports that Wolff had taken over management of the project and likely would reconfigure it.

"That hasn't been discussed with Peter," Gorman said. "I'm not at liberty to discuss the deal."

Wolff, however, said his company is working with the project's previous architects and planners along with several new consultants. His company hasn't decided whether to keep the name Pier 202 for the project or use another moniker that has been used from time to time, The Pier at Town Lake.

"We have a lot of great ideas, but we're not quite ready for prime time," Wolff said. "We will be able to share the vision in March."

He acknowledged that Gorman and Mike Barker of Barker Pacific Group still have an interest in the project, but said it is "a tiny equity hold."

"We love Brad and Mike ... they took a lot of heat, but Brad has performed everything he said he would perform," Wolff said.

The "heat" he referred to stemmed in part from published reports that Gorman was convicted in California in 1997 of felony grand theft in connection with a real estate transaction. Details are not available because the Los Angeles County Superior Court sealed the case records in 2000. In published statements sent to other media last spring, Gorman said he had been falsely accused.

Those allegations did not deter the city of Tempe from selecting Pier 202 LLC in May 2007 to develop the land.

Meanwhile, The Wolff Co. is negotiating with Arizona State University to purchase an adjacent 9 acres at the northeast corner of Rio Salado Parkway and Rural Road, which likely would be incorporated into the revised plans.

Tempe Mayor Hugh Hallman, who along with the council supported the Pier 202 LLC group, said he is aware The Wolff Co. is in the lead now, but said he was not privy to the details of the sales transaction between that company and Pier 202 LLC.

"The Wolff Co. is the right fit to take the lead," he said. "This is a ... great leap forward in the right direction."

Hallman said he is confident Wolff will meet all prenegotiated entitlements, financial deadlines, building restrictions and other contingencies imposed by the city on Pier 202 LLC.

The Wolff Co. is raising its profile locally. The long-standing real estate investment firm was founded in 1949 in Spokane, Wash., by Wolff's grandfather, Alvin Wolff Sr. Later, Alvin Wolff Jr. took the reins.

In 2001, Peter Wolff and his three brothers decided to move the family business to Scotts­dale "for better access and economies."

For a few years after that, the company focused on acquisitions, mostly apartments along the West Coast.

"We've only recently been doing deals in our own backyard," Wolff said.

The Wolff Co. became a capital partner in the redevelopment of the Dial Corp.'s headquarters -- the company is moving to new digs north of Loop 101, east of Kierland Commons in Scottsdale. Its partners are Glimcher Realty Trust and Vanguard City Home.

The Wolff Co. also is a development partner with Vanguard City Home in Safari Drive, the mixed-use project under construction along the Arizona Canal northeast of Scottsdale and Camelback roads.

"That's going to be an amazing project," Wolff said.

He's equally keen about the firm's Tempe plans.

"The Pier project ... it's a fabulous location. We're extremely excited," he said.

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Whatever happened to the project that was supposed to be built on University just west of the Chuck Box that was stalled because of the hot dog place? Has that been scrapped?
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^ I think that was University Square. It's probably DOA at the moment, but I suspect something will get built there eventually.

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I doubt University Square is fake--if SAXA (formerly Shea Commercial) is no good in Tempe there are bigger problems than we think.
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This may have been posted before, if so i am sorry, but the State Press (ASU's Newspaper) they reported some time late last year that Dave's Dog House and the developers had come to terms and Dave's sold out to them.
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The site for the CVS store on the SW corner of Mill and Uni has been cleared and has a new fence up with CVS signs. I don't remember what the site plan looks like, but here's hoping that they put that building right on the street with parking behind it...
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The site for the CVS store on the SW corner of Mill and Uni has been cleared and has a new fence up with CVS signs. I don't remember what the site plan looks like, but here's hoping that they put that building right on the street with parking behind it...
Not that this is the most exciting project but at least the corner will look a lot nicer when its done. I just wish it was more of a mixed-use building with CVS on the bottom instead of just a stand-alone CVS with nothing above it. Here is the site plan and some renderings I found from the city of Tempe website.





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Yeah, pretty freaking lame for that location...
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Just what the world needs, ANOTHER pharmacy. At least it is on the street, instead of destroying the urban fabric with parking lot in front.

The biggest travesty is that CVS next to the PHX Art Museum. Such an important corner, wasted with a box pharmacy.
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