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Old Posted Jan 22, 2008, 9:19 AM
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Developer buys up Downtown properties
By Michael McQuillan - Burnaby NewsLeader - January 18, 2008

The developer who owns the Trapp Block has big plans for Columbia Street.

The Saliant Group, is purchasing the two properties adjacent to the six-storey Trapp Block to build a mixed-use building.

The development would include a 170-foot residential building with commercial space at ground level. The Vancouver developer wants to add another 10 or more storeys to the Trapp Block building while preserving the facade of the structure.

The 139,000 square feet of residential space would accommodate 166 housing units with 8,700 square feet for commercial use.

The project consolidates the Trapp Block, the Windjammer Hotel—both originally built in 1899—and two properties to the west that include the Army and Navy Annex.

The developer’s plan goes before New Westminster city council Monday as a preliminary application. It will require rezoning because the proposed building does not meet the conditions of the neighbourhood’s zoned use. For one, it exceeds the 100-foot height restriction.

But that is not without precedent. The Interurban project was granted a height variance to build to 170 feet.

Saliant is also applying for less setback on the Front Street side, for a 177-space parking garage and a change to the allowable floor space ratio.
Seems like the long awaited revitalization of downtown NW is finally underway. There are now multiple heritage buildings being restored/converted along Columbia. More than a couple seedy bars/clubs have been forced to either sell or have been torn down already.The Garfield hotel soon will be replaced with a new shelter. Add all this to the Plaza88 development with the overhaul of NW station as well as over 100,000sqft of new retail and commercial space and things are definitely looking up for the royal city.
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^Ya I'm pretty sure that's the same site. It also looks from the render that there will be a shorter tower in a second phase of the project, although the current website makes no mention of it.
In the rendering it would look like the shorter tower would be where the warehouse was and the taller one where the single family lots were south of that warehouse.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2008, 10:58 AM
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Anyone know what happened to the 15 story tower that was proposed in NW on the other side of Columbia by the former electric building. When I lived out in New West a year ago I remember there were some problems with the developer and the city about a beer and wine store or something, but other wise it was a go. Would love to know whats happening.

This is another project to keep a eye on in NW, the former Labatt site...though not much has happened in a while.http://brewsite.ca

And last of all anyone know of any updates on the Larco development along the NW waterfront(5 towers 911 units and a promenade between the Quay and 6th street along the river). It was proposed and approved in the early 90's and last I heared they applied for some changes from the city about two or three years ago. This would be a huge project that would make the biggest impact on NW and i would love to know if theres anything new.
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In the rendering it would look like the shorter tower would be where the warehouse was and the taller one where the single family lots were south of that warehouse.
yup glad there is some action going on at Patterson.....I would like to see some street front retail in that area would help to reduce the seedy factor.....it gets pretty odd late late at night I used to live in the area and the park has some interesting hobo inhabitants and plenty of late night "cruisers" also if you know what I mean.....shudders.
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And last of all anyone know of any updates on the Larco development along the NW waterfront(5 towers 911 units and a promenade between the Quay and 6th street along the river).
Haven't heard about that one for a while. Could be held up by negotiations for a right-of-way for the North Fraser Perimeter Road which would essentially be an upgrade of the existing truck route (the 10km/h (?) road under the existng parkade). Hopefully they do it right so the roadway is upgraded sufficiently and the space over top provides a nice wide public promenade.
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Haven't heard about that one for a while. Could be held up by negotiations for a right-of-way for the North Fraser Perimeter Road which would essentially be an upgrade of the existing truck route (the 10km/h (?) road under the existng parkade). Hopefully they do it right so the roadway is upgraded sufficiently and the space over top provides a nice wide public promenade.
You could be right, though I thought it was approved by the city already and with the railway separating it from Front st it should mean that the impact of the nf perimeter road should be minimal(though i suspect a parkade over the tracks linking with the old parkade which would then require negotiations with cp also). I also think its a bit more costly development being on the river bank, needing a promenade built and connecting it over front st and the railway to the rest of the city. Though if done right then units in those towers could sell for a nice premium i think.
Anyways I hope something happens soon because the extended promenade and more units near Columbia st would mean a huge improvement to New Westminster and I always thought it could be difference between New West being a poor mans suburb and a great city.

Anyways if there is no news i have a feeling we will get some soon with all these developments and the transformation of downtown New West which should only raise the profitability for the developer, not to mention the plans for the road should be finalize soon and i cant see there being a unsolvable problem with cp..(eventually I could see towers and mid rises stretching all the way to Pattulo bridge along the river with a new promenade all the way to Saperton park, it would be like the sea wall in Vancouver)
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Just realized that the InterUrban site sort of backs on to the truck route on the river side. I wonder how that will interface. I think it has an above ground parkade for 5 or so floors facing the river (with condos facing Columbia on those same floors), so that may allow the promenade to butt up against that side of the building.
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MULTI-FAMILY, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT Proj: 9075760-1
Port Coquitlam, Greater Vancouver RD BC
The Triangle, 856 Nicola Ave & Associated Lands,
$120Million
Note: Currently in a conceptual stage while going through a rezoning process. Design and construction schedules are undetermined at this time. Further update Summer/08.
Project: proposed mixed-use complex. Scope of the work includes 600 multi-family units with 600,000 sq ft of commercial space, including big box retail, restaurants, and office space.
Scope: 1,000,000 square feet; 600 units; 44 acres
Category: Apartment bldgs; Retail, wholesale services; Commercial offices; Restaurants
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Wow, that's huge.
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600-units, wow....
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 10:54 PM
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Think these are the towers someone else mentioned earlier on, both phases are in the plans preparation

Cartier Place Phase 1
14970 101A St
27 Storeys 3 levels u/g parking, 200,426sqft, 300 parking stalls, 221 units.

Cartier Place Phase 2+3
10160 149th St
32Storeys+35Storeys, 383,205sqft, 600 parking stalls, Tower B 183 units, Tower C 233 units.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 10:58 PM
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Seems like the suburbs are getting all the news these days, I might have to start paying more attention. I know this one has been talked about before, here are some more details.

$800Million development for Squamish.
Waterfront LAnding
Low-rise townhouses, 3 towers between 12-20 storeys, for a total of 1500 mutlifamily units, a large sfh subdivision, waterfront promenade, new marina, and retail components. Start /09 with a 15year buildout.
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800 million for squamish?? are you F*ing kidding me?

I wouldn't pay 800 million for all of squamish!
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Squamish has good very god potential, though it needs to attract some employers. I always saw it as being a bit of a university town in the future, their building a small university right now but maybe it could grow in to the future. I also thought the towers were rejected by the the city because they wanted a more mid rise form and were afraid of blocking views even though there were going to be no views blocked.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 11:56 PM
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yup glad there is some action going on at Patterson.....I would like to see some street front retail in that area would help to reduce the seedy factor.....it gets pretty odd late late at night I used to live in the area and the park has some interesting hobo inhabitants and plenty of late night "cruisers" also if you know what I mean.....shudders.
"Seedy factor" of Patterson? You must have had a sheltered life.
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Talk tonight on North Rd. plan

January 23, 2008

Low-rise condos or highrise towers?

That’s the question the public will be asked tonight (Wednesday) during an official community plan hearing required before a change in the land use for property at 319 North Rd. in Coquitlam.

Proponents of a high-density urban village on the Best Western Coquitlam Inn site are seeking a change to the current OCP designation of Urban Quarter to Transit Village to permit three towers, a townhouse and a live-work complex.

The property is is envisioned in the OCP for five- to six-storey townhouses under the Urban Quarter designation.

Even if the OCP change is approved, a rezoning would be required to allow Romses Architects Inc. to develop the 4.9-acre property in keeping with its vision for two 24- to 28-storey apartment towers, offering 248 units, one 29-storey hotel with 154 hotel and 68 residential units, a 28-unit townhouse and 42 live-work units. Some 6,000 square feet of commercial space on the ground level of the townhouse development is also being considered to meet projected demand for offices and stores.

Eight other projects, including a land-use change for property at 1900 Como Lake Ave. to permit a retail commercial building on the site of a former gas station, are also on the agenda for the public hearing, which begins at 7 p.m. in Coquitlam council chambers.


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Jobs, local business a concern with Dominion development

Port Coquitlam council this week cranked up the debate on the future of big-box stores — and their effect on small businesses — in the city.

Monday, council voted 5-1 to send to first reading Townline Ventures’ proposal to develop 44 acres in the Dominion Triangle to include two big-box stores, a “lifestyle centre” with two highrise towers and a destination shopping area.

But Coun. Greg Moore, , the only councillor who voted against starting the rezoning process, said the 325,000 square feet for big-box retail will have a negative impact on jobs in PoCo.

He cited a University of California (Irvine) study that showed smaller businesses suffer from loss of workers when Wal-Mart stores open. Moore also pointed to another UC study indicating Wal-Mart employees get lower wages and benefits, and are not unionized. He said Save-On-Foods and Costco could potentially have labour shortages should big-box stores open.

“We know that our retailers in downtown and northside are already struggling, and it is up to this council to do what it can to help our existing businesses,” Moore said.

But Coun. Mike Bowen, former owner of a downtown business, dismissed Moore’s comments as fear-mongering and countered the big-box stores will feed the local economy. Bowen recalled when the Westwood strip mall, Coquitlam Centre and Shaughnessy Station opened, “and it didn’t put me out of business,” he said.

(At last month’s planning committee, when Townline’s rezoning bid was introduced, a PoCo BIA rep had no comment on the possible loss of business in downtown PoCo.)

Bowen also said if PoCo turns its back on big retailers, they will go to other cities.

As for the amount of traffic Townline’s development would generate — a concern raised by planning committee chair Coun. Mike Forrest — Bowen said he would rather see the crowds in PoCo than not.

Mayor Scott Young said the Dominion Triangle will mostly pull shoppers from outside of PoCo.

“It’s a regional draw. I think it’s a wonderful opportunity,” he said.

City council is expected to give the application first reading Jan. 28. A public hearing will likely be held next month.

http://www.bclocalnews.com/tri_city_maple_ridge/tricitynews/news/13820247.html

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Big-box developer pulls out of Albion

Maple Ridge is nothing more than a distant image in the rear-view mirror of the Smart!Centres development vehicle.

The company has walked away from Albion flats land, at Lougheed Highway and 105th Avenue, where it wanted to put a big-box mall.

"We're talking big money here," said realtor Stan Pavlov, who tried to put some of the deals together.

A few years ago, Smart!Centres put conditional offers on 20 acres just west of Planet Ice and 105th Ave. and 41 acres owned by Steve and John Wynnyk, just south of that.

But it didn't want to proceed with the purchases until Maple Ridge council decided what it wanted to do with the farmland. That decision will have to wait until an area plan is done – which will follow the downtown plan currently under way.

Pavlov said Smart!Centres made the initial offers more than two years ago and extended the offers three times.

It requested another 18-month extension last fall, in hope that council would decide how it wants Albion flats to develop. But the company that owned the 20 acres was slow in deciding, while the Wynnyks took the property off the market.

As a result, Smart!Centres head office told its local office to forget about it. "Walk away from what you already spent and go somewhere else.

"They [Smart!Centres] dropped those and lost their deposits on them – walked away – but lost a lot of money.

"I've lived with this the last two and a half years, then at the end, they walked away."

Pavlov said the fact the land was in the Agricultural Land Reserve and Metro Vancouver's Green Zone weren't seen as serious obstacles by Smart!Centres.

Legislative changes now make it easier to remove land from the Green Zone, while the land commission has shown willingness to exclude the land.

Rather, the delay was from the district's indecision.

"They don't know what they want and they're squabbling among themselves," Pavlov said.

In the meantime, Smart!Centres, formerly First Pro Shopping Centres, focused on Pitt Meadows, on the north side of Lougheed Hwy., west of Meadow Gardens Golf Course.

"They weren't welcome in Maple Ridge so they went to Mission, they went to Pitt Meadows.

"In Pitt Meadows they tied up 90 acres," Pavlov said.

"They were, what's the word … snubbed in Maple Ridge."

Smart!Centres, which has Wal-Mart as one of its major tenants, still has about 45 acres in the Albion flats which it could sell or develop with another company in a joint venture.

And two parcels totalling about 15 acres on Lougheed Highway, east of Harvies Building Supplies, were recently sold to a Korean company for $300,000 an acre.

Meanwhile, Pavlov says the 20 acres he's currently trying to sell could be sold as a holding property, if combined with other properties and "if somebody with very deep pockets comes along and is prepared to wait."

He said Smart!Centres had budgeted $100 million to develop Albion flats, which would have involved assembling 120 acres.

In Pitt Meadows, Smart!Centres bought 11 acres of land at 19451/ 19477 Lougheed Hwy. from the Meadow Gardens Golf Course last March for $6.3 million.

In June, it paid a million dollars for 1.6 acres at 19499 Lougheed Hwy and $1.1 million for two acres at 19489 Lougheed Hwy.

http://www.bclocalnews.com/tri_city_maple_ridge/mapleridgenews/news/13902702.html
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600-units, wow....
600 units is nothing...

Expect to see upwards of 4500 units in a single development in the near future. The project is currenly in the preliminary design stages, but if approved - would be the largest development and highest towers ever seen in a Vancouver suburb. Cant leak any more info than that right now.
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^ Are you kidding me??? I don't understand how Coquitlam/Port Moody for many years were such dead zones in terms of skyscrapers and now all of a sudden they are building some of the region's (outside downtown) tallest buildings.
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