Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III - Page 137

Los_Lobo · #**2721** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 4:35 PM**

I sent an email message a couple of days ago to the group saying I was appalled at the statements of 3 members (Fargo, Cohn and Hammond) that their view to the Capitol would be blocked by the Metropolitan. I told them it was a conflict of interest and they should be more concerned with a view of a vibrant city than a self-serving view of the Capitol.

I haven't heard a peep from anyone.......

(Here's a big HELLO to Sactivity. Hope all is well up north.)

TowerDistrict · #**2722** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Los_Lobo

I sent an email message a couple of days ago to the group saying I was appalled at the statements of 3 members (Fargo, Cohn and Hammond) that their view to the Capitol would be blocked by the Metropolitan. I told them it was a conflict of interest and they should be more concerned with a view of a vibrant city than a self-serving view of the Capitol.

I haven't heard a peep from anyone.......

(Here's a big HELLO to Sactivity. Hope all is well up north.)

Good!

You should also forward it as a letter to the Planning and Design Commission.
It would be even better if you could find a specific contact with the City that
is handeling the project. There is probably a planner assigned to the project
that would field such letters and make sure they accompany the attachments
forwarded onto the commission.

I've got that information before through the developer. In this case:

Saca Developement Employees

wburg · #**2723** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 6:58 PM**

Okay, here's kind of an out-of-the-blue question:

Would you rather see a 40-story condo tower built downtown, or five 8-story condos in midtown?

sugit · #**2724** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 7:12 PM**

If midtown and downtown were on equally footing as of right now, I would probably take the five 8-story buildings in midtown. That fills in many more gaps and surface parking lots than one building.

But I think downtown needs the boost of residents much more than Midtown at this present time. So I would go for the 40-story.

Hell, as long as they were dense (remember 800j is still a dense 190 DUA) and had a good ground floor presence, I would take five 8-story buildings in DT.

ltsmotorsport · #**2725** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 8:28 PM**

Completely agree, sugit. Though I would like to save some lots for highrises in the future.

BrianSac · #**2726** Posted **Jan 17, 2008, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by What is a Rivercat?

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The Metropolitan project

Good morning,

I would like to register my extreme disappointment with Mayor Fargo's illogical quest to impose height limits on such structures. I'd like to see Sacramento develop into a world-class city and the mayor seems hellbent on preventing this from occurring. I know her arguments for the height restrictions and I find them to be without merit.

Thank you,

Good letter! Thanks for posting those email addy's.

I'll compose a similar letter and send to the same people.

urban_encounter · #**2727** Posted **Jan 18, 2008, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by sugit

If midtown and downtown were on equally footing as of right now, I would probably take the five 8-story buildings in midtown. That fills in many more gaps and surface parking lots than one building.

But I think downtown needs the boost of residents much more than Midtown at this present time. So I would go for the 40-story.

Hell, as long as they were dense (remember 800j is still a dense 190 DUA) and had a good ground floor presence, I would take five 8-story buildings in DT.

I agree 100%

As you pointed out, all things are not equal and downtown is in dire need of new residential units whether it's one 40 story high-rise or four 10 story (whatever), just put them downtown.

creamcityleo79 · #**2728** Posted **Jan 18, 2008, 4:28 AM**

Here was mine. I hope you didn't mind I used the beginning of your email Rivercat.

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To whom it may concern:

I would like to register my extreme disappointment with Mayor Fargo's illogical quest to impose height limits on such structures. I'd like to see Sacramento develop into a world-class city and the mayor seems hellbent on preventing this from occurring. I know her arguments for the height restrictions and I find them to be without merit. As a longtime resident of Sacramento I have seen this city take a wonderful turn toward smart, responsible growth and up until now, I was under the impression that Mayor Fargo and the Council was behind this all the way. Now I hear this from the Mayor and, if this holds true, I can no longer support her. This is exactly the definition of the word NIMBY! NOT IN MY BACKYARD! This is shameful coming from the Mayor/Council who has led this city well up until this point. Please reconsider your feelings on the Metropolitan development and don’t get caught up in the negativity and selfishness that is displayed by the parties who are suing you like Mo Mohanna and William Kopper. I trust that you will make the right decision in this matter and continue to lead Sacramento into a new era of smart, urban growth that will bring MORE developments like the Metropolitan that will benefit generations to come.

Thank you,

sugit · #**2729** Posted **Jan 18, 2008, 6:12 PM**

From the Biz Journal on the East End Gateway sites.

Majin · #**2730** Posted **Jan 18, 2008, 7:04 PM**

Whats the timeline for construction after the march approval?

sugit · #**2731** Posted **Jan 18, 2008, 7:07 PM**

November 2008 - July 2010 for 16th and N.

The smaller two buildings on 16th and O in July/August - Oct 2009

sugit · #**2732** Posted **Jan 19, 2008, 7:22 PM**

I was running by the CADA office this morning and saw the agenda for next weeks meeting and approving the DDA for sites 2 and 3 is on there.

Glad to see they got it hammered out. Now let's just hope the same doesn't happen as last time where the bids for the Loftworks project came in way too high even after the DDA was approved.

East End Gateway Sites II and III
16th and O Street
Developer: Ravel Rasmussen Properties
Architect: Chang Partners
Site II: 4 Stories, 24 Apartments, 4900 sf retail
Site III: 5 Stores, 60 Apartment, 7100 sf retail

jsf8278 · #**2733** Posted **Jan 19, 2008, 8:10 PM**

Looks like CADA is really on a roll. Those three projects will really add a lot to that area.

sugit · #**2734** Posted **Jan 20, 2008, 6:05 AM**

Yup, but I will wait until they are actually u/c before I cheer. If they can get these three, and Capitol Lofts on R Street going this year, that would be a great year. That would come out to over 300 housing units.

My contact at CADA also says they will probably be offering the site at 16th and P to developers again now that Lambert pulled out a few months ago.

urban_encounter · #**2735** Posted **Jan 20, 2008, 7:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by sugit

Yup, but I will wait until they are actually u/c before I cheer. If they can get these three, and Capitol Lofts on R Street going this year, that would be a great year. That would come out to over 300 housing units.

My contact at CADA also says they will probably be offering the site at 16th and P to developers again now that Lambert pulled out a few months ago.

In this housing market i wont be holding my breath for any of the projects to break ground...

On a side note i don't know if anyone mentioned it but the News Beat On L street is moving from it's longtime location across from the Capitol.

Apparently they wantd to expand into the space next door after the Avid readed relocated, but the city wanted that site for the wine tasting toom (which is no longer happening btw). Anyway by the time the city figured out the wine tasting room wasn't going to happen the News Beat had already signed a lease in MAARS. So now the city will have two vacant store fronts in a high profile area..

Also i just read SacTwon for Dec/Jan and caught the article about the Planetarium and noted a mention that the lights on the Ziggurat maybe coming back on. Anybody else catch that?

sugit · #**2736** Posted **Jan 20, 2008, 5:42 PM**

For Capitol Lofts and 16th and N, I would agree a bit. But each is getting a subsidy though, so that should help a long. Plus the projects won't be done until 2010, that gives the market time to shake out a bit.

The two sites on O Street are rentals though, that is a strong market right now so I would expect that to happen, barring costs again that killed the last project.

TWAK · #**2737** Posted **Jan 21, 2008, 11:11 PM**

more apartments would be cool for downtown.
like cheap apartments that I can afford. If I am ever a multi millionaire I'll build a middle class rental tower in Sacramento. Mark my words.

jsf8278 · #**2738** Posted **Jan 22, 2008, 4:01 AM**

does anyone know the status of Globe Mills? There webiste says completition by January of this year...that can't be right. There's really not much info on any websites. I suppose I could look for myself but I figured I would just ask.

Phillip · #**2739** Posted **Jan 22, 2008, 8:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by urban_encounter

On a side note i don't know if anyone mentioned it but the News Beat On L street is moving from it's longtime location across from the Capitol.

Apparently they wantd to expand into the space next door after the Avid readed relocated, but the city wanted that site for the wine tasting toom (which is no longer happening btw). Anyway by the time the city figured out the wine tasting room wasn't going to happen the News Beat had already signed a lease in MAARS.

Unless someone works at the Capitol MAARS seems like a better overall location for NewsBeat. Parking isn't easy near MAARS but it's better than on L Street across from Capitol, and there's synergy between magazines/newspapers and the coffeshops/pizza by the slice at/near MAARS.

DALINSAC · #**2740** Posted **Jan 22, 2008, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Phillip

Unless someone works at the Capitol MAARS seems like a better overall location for NewsBeat. Parking isn't easy near MAARS but it's better than on L Street across from Capitol, and there's synergy between magazines/newspapers and the coffeshops/pizza by the slice at/near MAARS.

That would be pretty cool.
BTW/ Does anyone know how many more retail spaces are available at MAARS?