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City may ask public for input on new plans
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Published: Saturday, January 12, 2008

Among the ideas for the future of the land includes Tourism Saskatoon's recommendation for a Joni Mitchell Centre for Discovery, as well as a River Landing Interpretive Centre proposed by the Meewasin Valley Authority.
Please not a Joni Mitchell centre, what is she God? How about a brown brick interpretive centre, a place where it can be explained that all architects who design high rises in this city were educated in some soviet communist institution.

Hopefully whatever turns out here will be large enough to cover up the plain exterior of Persephone.I wonder if an observation tower of some significance could be a reality.
     
     
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Please not a Joni Mitchell centre, what is she God? How about a brown brick interpretive centre, a place where it can be explained that all architects who design high rises in this city were educated in some soviet communist institution.
     
     
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I wonder if an observation tower of some significance could be a reality.
You could see Lake Diefenbaker from there, or at the very least Cranberry Flats
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why not a joni mitchell centre? she is one of the most famous and talented artists to come out of canada let alone Saskatoon. but i do think that there are better options for that spot, i would rather just build a....5-7 story condo tower, with shops on the main floor and a restaurant with balconie facing the river.
     
     
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Biomedical research wing goes to tender

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January 11, 2008
By Colleen MacPherson

Exterior view of D Wing from the southeast.

Illustration courtesy Friggstad Downing Henry Architects and Flad & Associates.

Having taken steps to mitigate the potential pressure caused by rising construction costs, the University’s Board of Governors has approved the call for tenders this month on the first of the two major components of the Academic Health Sciences (AHS) project.

The Biomedical Research Wing, known as D Wing, will wrap around the west and north sides of the existing Health Sciences Building and will include biocontainment research labs, office and support space and a research animal facility. The 17,765 sq. m building will be connected to the proposed aboriginal student space, Arts and Place Riel by an underground tunnel. Campus Drive has already been diverted to the north to accommodate the new structure.

Richard Florizone, vice-president of finance and resources, said D Wing and the yet-to-be-finalized E Wing will account for about 85 per cent of the entire $251 million AHS project. The estimated cost of D Wing is $111.7 million. E Wing is expected to go to tender a year from now

Knowing the impact the current volatile construction environment has had on other University projects, Florizone said the AHS steering committee tightly managed the scope of the project while still carefully considering the future need for trained health care professionals in Saskatchewan.

“We have to ensure we neither underbuild nor overbuild,” he said.

The University also did a local market scan in an attempt to determine the best time for tendering the project, “and we’re trying, where we can, to work on finding the most economical options in areas like architectural finishes.” That said, the size of the finished project makes it a significant addition to campus and deviating from traditional exterior finishes like, for example, fieldstone and Tyndall stone, may not be appropriate.

“This is a transformative project and we need to get it right.”

Florizone said contractors have 60 days to respond to the tenders with bids, and the University and the provincial government will be keeping a close eye on the numbers. According to the terms of a memorandum of understanding signed in July by the two parties, if the bids come in within five per cent of the estimated cost of the building, the University can accept the bids and proceed. If construction costs exceed the five per cent limit, “we have to go back to the province to discuss our options.”

If the tendering process goes well, Florizone said construction could be underway by spring.

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Place Riel reno expected to reflect student wishes
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January 11, 2008
By Kirk Sibbald

The on again, off again plans for an expansion and renovation of Place Riel finally seem to be a go.

The University of Saskatchewan Students’ Union (USSU) received approval of the preliminary project location, program, design schedule and capital budget from the Board of Governors in mid-December. The preliminary budget for the project is $16 million, and the University has agreed to act as guarantor for the USSU’s financing of a loan in this amount.

Place Riel was opened in 1980, and expansion plans have been in the works since 2000, said James Pepler, USSU president. Although previous proposals fell through due to a lack of funding, students will be paying for the current plan from their infrastructure fees, which were raised from $10 to $44 per term last March.

“This entire project is going to be funded by students, which is different than, frankly, any other student centre in Canada,” said Pepler.

The Board of Governors also approved, in principle, exploring further University contributions to the project, according to board documents. Parameters for such funding could include landscape and site improvements to the Place Riel transit terminal, as well as allowing for future vertical expansions to the north of the building, between Marquis Hall and Murray Building.

“We think this is an important project and we’re keen to support the goals and objectives of the USSU,” said Richard Floizone, vice- president of finances and resources.

Pepler said that while the specific plans will be unveiled later this month, there are some general changes expected. The USSU and international students’ office will likely move into the expanded area north of the current Place Riel. New space for students clubs, more retail space and better circulation in lower Place Riel are also priorities.

Pepler also said the final blueprints will be largely based on feedback received from students themselves in an opinion survey regarding the expansion done in December, and from a Facebook group established to gauge wants and needs.

“Because students are paying for this, we want them to affect it on a grand scale.”

Sustainability will also play a key role in the plans, as the USSU hopes to obtain a silver certification from the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) green building rating system.

However, regardless of what is or is not included in the renovations and expansion, Pepler said he simply wants to get this project off the ground.

“Every day that this gets prolonged, which it already has been seven years now, it gets more and more expensive. We have a set budget and every day this drags on, construction costs increase and it’s students who are paying for it.”

Construction is expected to begin this summer, lasting about 12 months, and occupancy is tentatively scheduled for September 2009.

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why not a joni mitchell centre? she is one of the most famous and talented artists to come out of canada let alone Saskatoon. but i do think that there are better options for that spot, i would rather just build a....5-7 story condo tower, with shops on the main floor and a restaurant with balconie facing the river.
IMO that piece of property is way too valuable to dedicate it to Mitchell, she deserves a space, but a room in the Mendel would be more appropriate than an entire civic destination centre on prime riverfront land. The MVA, Tourism Saskatoon, an Aboriginal History centre, or some other type of 'people place' would work better there. I like the idea of a water front restaurant somewhere down there. The Forks in Winnipeg has something like that and I thought it was great when I was there.

Also, great to see the U of S is moving along with things. Anyone know anything about the new children's hospital?
     
     
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In fact, there should be a plan in place to remove all the railroad tracks and the eyesore Flour Mill... sorry folks, it's an eyesore. Development of that area should then proceed in the next 10-15 Years. First of all they need to get going on the 25th Street expansion, I don't believe there is much disagreement there.
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Nope, there's no disagreement about getting a move on with the 25th extension.

As for the Robin Hood mill I have to disagree with you. I respect your opinion, but in my view it's a city landmark that deserves to remain part of the city's skyline more than most of the brick pile highrises downtown. Sure the area around the mill could used to be cleaned up but I think it would be a damn shame if it were knocked over. I love the sheer monstrosity of the facility. Surely it's one of the tallest points in the city too. And I don't want to know a world where's there's no big red Robin Hood sign lighting up the night sky!

On top of that it has a historic, industrial character that just isn't seen today. I'm happy it's there and I think it gives the area that urban grit, industrial look that helps to make the area charactered and unique.. a definite selling point for future loft/condo residents IMO.

Personally, I love it!

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I completely agree, My fathers claim to fame is that one of his first jobs was at a sign making company, and he was the guy that often went up there and had to change the light bulbs. If only he had took a camera with him, we could of had a cool skyline shot from about 40 years ago....



















     
     
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Anyone know anything about the new children's hospital?
Haven't heard anything, but they are probably still in the planning/design stage...maybe this summer we'll see something released.

Hmmmm, found this little tidbit on the Children's Health and Hospital Foundation website, posted:18/9/2007

Mike Weir Coming To Help Build Saskatchewan Children's Hospital

The drive is beginning for the upcoming provincial children's hospital and what better person to take the first swing than Canada's own PGA winner and 2003 Masters Champion Mike Weir. Mike and the Mike Weir Foundation have awarded Saskatoon and the Children's Health & Hospital Foundation of Saskatchewan (CHHF) the June 2008 "Mike Weir Miracle Golf Drive for Kids." This first ever Saskatchewan-PGA event will be open to golfers across the province with all proceeds toward the upcoming provincial children's hospital and their fundraising entity, the Children's Health & Hospital Foundation of Saskatchewan.

"We are absolutely thrilled that Mr. Weir and his Foundation have chosen Saskatoon and the CHHF as the 2008 host for the "Mike Weir Miracle Golf Drive for Kids." To have him here to lend his name and his profile to the building of our new hospital will mean so much to Saskatchewan families and their children, especially given that he and his wife Bricia, are so supportive of the work that children's hospitals do across Canada. We look forward to gaining the support of the multitudes of golfers and volunteers across Saskatchewan as we show what a tremendously charitable and golf-loving province we are," says Brynn Boback-Lane, Executive Director of the Children's Health & Hospital Foundation of Saskatchewan.

Mike is looking forward to visiting Saskatoon in 2008 for the event noting, "It's an area that I have heard so much about, particularly the sense of community, their provincial pride and the tremendous support they've shown for children's health." We try our best

A specific date and site for the Saskatoon event is still to be determined and will be dependent upon the release of the 2008 PGA schedule. Despite a definite date, volunteers and organizers can now begin planning what will surely be "the" golf event in the province next year.

The Mike Weir Miracle Golf Drive for Kids (www.mikeweirmiraclegolfdrive.ca) is a national initiative that began in 2007 to raise funds and awareness for Children's Miracle Network and children's health through the Mike Weir Foundation and in association with the National Golf Course Owners Asociation, Canada.

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Thanks SASK, the images do help!

I stand by my opinion.. The surrounding area definitely needs to be cleaned up (and developed!), but I love that mill!
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Unless I'm mistaken the mill is still in operation, which kind of precludes any municipal initiative to knock it down.
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I always thought this empty field would be the perfect location for a new 20,000 seat football stadium. Or an NHL size arena - take your pick..
     
     
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On another note, Council will decide tonight if they will approve the condo conversion of The Milroy downtown. If they do, Hopefull it will at the least get a new paint job like its twin across the street, maybe a whole new exterior?
     
     
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I'm not overly familiar with historic statistics related to tendering or the processes associated with them, but thought the outcome of this tendered project was interesting, good outcome I guess (we save money ).

City's re-tender of 19th Street project pays off
By Darren Bernhardt, TheStarPhoenix.com
Published: Monday, January 14, 2008

Like a disgruntled shopper seeking a better bargain, the City of Saskatoon may have pulled off one terrific deal.

It just saved nearly $4 million on the original price tag for redeveloping a section of 19th Street near River Landing and the Saskatoon Farmer's Market. The project - which will create a more esthetic corridor for vehicle and pedestrian traffic - involves raising the roadway and creating a new intersection with First Avenue, which would be extended south.

The section of the Sid Buckwold Bridge on-ramp, which presently carries traffic over 19th Street, will be removed. A shortened on-ramp to the bridge will be accessible from the new intersection instead. Streetscaping will include new sidewalks, shrubs, lighting and parking.

The city estimated the cost to be $5 million when it put the project out for tender in December 2006. Due to skyrocketing construction costs, the price was revised to an expected $5.7 million by June.

But when the tender deadline closed and the city reviewed the bids in July, it suffered sticker shock. Just one offer was made, by Graham Construction, for $9.1 million.

That was rejected by civic administrators who took a chance on re-tendering the project in the overheated market. It paid off.

According to a report from the city manager to city council, Graham put in another bid, at $7.43 million, but SaskCon Repair Services Ltd. offered to do it for $5.38 million.

"This is wonderful that we can move forward with the work. It will be a great project," said Coun. Pat Lorje, whose ward includes River Landing. "We took a calculated gamble last year when we put the tender out at the height of the construction season, and just when everything was booming. We had to delay it because that ($9.1 million bid) was just too much."

Chris Dekker, the city's manager of special projects, looked into the reason for the lack of bids and high cost and was told by local firms it is best to tender early in the fall as they are preparing for the following year. The second tender was put out in mid-August with a mid-December deadline.

"Combining the SaskCon . . . low tender bid with the costs of purchasing the required property and the construction costs which have occurred to date (replacement and relocation of underground pipes, temporary road resurfacing for winter), the complete project cost will be approximately $7.3 million, which is within the new budget," states the report going to council tonight.

Construction is set to begin in May with completion expected in late fall. It's going to mean a lot of traffic headaches for motorists, though.

The removal of the overpass and reconfiguration of the roadway will mean the closure of 19th Street for most of the year as well as a temporary closure of the First Avenue access to freeway bridge, states the report. The construction of retaining walls on First Avenue will also require lane restrictions on the off-ramp from the freeway bridge into downtown.

"It will be a bit of an inconvenience for people but we are looking at ways to make traffic flow better on 20th Street (which will take more of the traffic load as a result of the closure)," said Lorje, noting one idea is to prohibit left turns off 20th onto any street between Avenue D and Idylwyld Drive.

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Chris Dekker, the city's manager of special projects, looked into the reason for the lack of bids and high cost and was told by local firms it is best to tender early in the fall as they are preparing for the following year. The second tender was put out in mid-August with a mid-December deadline.
It boggles my mind that Chris Dekker is actually going on public record saying that the city did not understand the ins and outs of the tendering process, and that it is possible that the City Of Saskatoon has been ripped off on countless tenders in the past simply because of its timing of the tender. WOW.
     
     
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I am looking into a position in Saskatoon...coming in from Québec. I need somme help to figure if this is a good offer and if how life is in Saskatchewan.

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May I be in contact with any of you? I need information about Saskatoon before making a major chabge in my life.

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Hotel for Stonegate
Local group has high hopes for $23-million development
By Murray LyonsSP Business Editor
Agroup of Saskatoon investors is confident the city’s overall growth, especially rapid development in the southeast, will put its Four Points by Sheraton hotel investment in a high-traffic location when the development opens late this year.


Spencer Early, one of the investors in a development led by Shaun Ng of V.J. Management Ltd., says the $23-million hotel is being built in a part of the city under-served by hotels.


Foundations for the project have been poured on a five-acre site adjacent to Clarence Avenue, just south of the new Stonegate shopping centre.


“There is nothing on the east side except for the Colonial (Inn on Eighth),” Early said. “So the east side is certainly under-serviced.


“This one will be sitting near a new housing development (Stonebridge), near a golf course (The Willows), near Prairieland and near all the car dealerships. So if you were looking for location, I guess it would hit all the criteria.”


Early says Ng, an engineer, is leading the construction management on a threeor four-storey hotel with 118 rooms, a design that has been approved by the Starwood Group, which licenses the Four Points by Sheraton brand.
     
     
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Milroy conversion gets OK

City's decision caused councillor 'sleepless nights'
Lori Coolican, The StarPhoenix
Published: Tuesday, January 15, 2008

At least one city councillor said it was the hardest decision they've made as a group.

Faced by several rows of worried senior citizens in the public gallery, a majority of city councillors nevertheless agreed Monday night to approve a local developer's application to convert the Milroy Apartments, a downtown highrise, into condominiums.

"It's caused me some sleepless nights," Coun. Gord Wyant said before voting to approve the application. Four councillors -- Charlie Clark, Bob Pringle, Pat Lorje and Darren Hill -- voted to turn it down.

The building's future owner, Viking Developments, recently told civic officials it intended to retain ownership of 40 units in the 156-suite building and offer them for rent as one-year leases to some of the current long-term tenants, for up to four years, if the conversion was approved.

The rent will be "based on market rates for similar suites in the downtown core, "and subject to arbitration by a third party if the tenants disagree with any proposed increase," according to a proposal delivered to the city last November.

That's "far better rent protection" than the tenants would get if city council denied the conversion, argued Viking's lawyer, Doug Hodson, adding the company intends to retain the 40 units as rentals beyond the four years.

The building is in need of expensive renovations such as window replacements, air conditioning upgrades and fire sprinkler installation. Meanwhile its current owner, Kabo Developments, has raised rents twice in the past year.

Hodson warned council that if the conversion is not approved, "Kabo Developments can do whatever it wishes with the rent . . . whatever it thinks it can get out of the market."

The final decision on the proposed conversion rested with city council because the building contains more than 100 units. The developers' plan appears to have won the support of civic staff before Monday's meeting.

"In the view of the administration, this is a reasonable proposal to address the displacement challenges faced by those residents of the Milroy who may be most affected by a conversion of the building," community services department officials wrote in an unsigned report received by council.

"It should be noted that the applicant's proposed four-year lease arrangement for 40 suites will not be enforceable by the City of Saskatoon," they warned elsewhere in the report.

"Once final condominium approval is issued, which may be sometime in 2008, the City of Saskatoon has no enforcement action to take."

Tenants told council they don't have any confidence Viking will keep its word, arguing the 40 units set aside for them could be any units in the building, which would force them to move anyway.

In four years the apartment vacancy rate in the city could be just as bad as it is now, argued Helen Weigel, a Milroy resident for 17 years.

"The bottom line is that the proposal fails to address the security of tenants in this market," she said. "There's no security here."

The city's development services branch received applications to convert 1,517 existing rental units to condominiums in 2007 -- more than the previous 10 years combined -- while the vacancy rate for rental apartments in the city plunged from 3.2 per cent to 0.6 per cent, according to the report.

n the central district of the city, where the Milroy is located -- which includes the downtown, City Park, the central industrial district, Caswell Hill, most of Riversdale and part of King George -- the city received applications to convert 473 units to condos last year.

That represents more than a quarter of the existing rental stock in the district, which totals 1,678 units. Even with 40 of the Milroy's suites retained as rentals for the next four years, the rental market in the central district will shrink by seven per cent as a result of the conversion, the report states.

Rentals make up 80 per cent of all housing in the central district. Recent statistics from Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation showed a vacancy rate of one per cent in the area last October, compared to 4.7 per cent a year earlier.

Milroy tenants, many of whom are over 70 years of age and coping with limited mobility and health issues, had been pressing city council to deny Viking's request since they first learned of the conversion plan last spring, appearing at council and committee meetings and sending numerous letters and a petition to City Hall.

"I have not had a good night's sleep since that ominous flyer was slipped under my door," wrote Cheryll Woodbury, who moved into the building after selling her last home in 2006.

"There are very few residents of the Milroy who are in the financial position to buy a condominium in the building. This was made quite evident by the response of the larger group of the Milroy residents when the developer presented his conversion proposal and the prices of the condominiums," she wrote, referring to an Oct. 30 meeting with tenants.

"Their collective response was one of shock and anger. The developer's insensitivity to the financial status of the people he was addressing was almost insulting and disrespectful."

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It was very tough to watch this vote on city council last night. This is not a decision that I could of made. My thoughts go out to those seniors that have been affected.
     
     
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