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Old Posted Dec 22, 2007, 4:25 PM
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obesity in Utah Valley

'That's like loosening your belt to solve obesity!'

Funny! Urban Boy. It actually sounds like a very good analogy about widening freeways to solve traffic congestion.
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Some of you Utah Valley people may appreciate this. I got the following blurb from an e-mail with a developer in the Utah Valley area earlier this week.....

"There are many high rises slated for PG by the freeway exit. Just last week
a 24 story building came into DRC."

DRC= Design Review Committee
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 6:58 AM
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"There are many high rises slated for PG by the freeway exit. Just last week
a 24 story building came into DRC."

DRC= Design Review Committee

That's going to piss alot of people off.


So that now makes it 4 new mid-highrises in P.G.

1. 14-story hotel
2. 10-story hotel
3. 10-story mix use tower
4. 24-story tower
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 9:51 AM
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all pipe dreams...
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 5:51 PM
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Not all Pipe dreams...The 14-story Hotel has broken ground and crews are laying in utilities lines and pipes underground so that project is in the works. As for the other proposed highrises, those are still in the planning stages so those could be only dreams. But all projects start out as dreams and visions. LOL.

Lehi and P.G. are both thinking "BIG" and I think that has gotten alot of City leaders in Provo nervous. I think the program is that alot of these bigger cities like Salt Lake and Provo don't ever take these other smaller cities such as Sandy, Lehi or P.G. seriously when they start talking about building highrise. So they just do what seems like nothing saying "Oh it's just a pipe dream" or "it will never get built" But when these city leaders turn back around before they know it ground has been broken and these so called pipe dreams are now under construction.
Case and point...Provo needs to wake up and step it up. If little P.G. or Lehi can get these highrises then Provo sure as hell could also. But yet all Provo has plan right now is a few 10-stories buildings. Sure it's a start, but come on let's built a little higher.
When is Provo going to get some of these "pipe dreams"? Does Provo dare to build anything taller then 10 stories?
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 9:47 PM
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If indeed the 14 story hotel,convention center, and upscale lifestyle center becomes a reality, then Pleasant Grove will definately become a big magnet for North and Central Utah Valley. It's geographic location is probably just to good to ignore. I wonder what they figure the build-out population of Pleasant Grove will be?

As far as Provo building taller. Didn't Poodle and Wasatch say there was something in the works with NuSkin, and will probably be announced soon?
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2007, 7:03 AM
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Not all Pipe dreams...The 14-story Hotel has broken ground and crews are laying in utilities lines and pipes underground so that project is in the works. As for the other proposed highrises, those are still in the planning stages so those could be only dreams. But all projects start out as dreams and visions. LOL.

Lehi and P.G. are both thinking "BIG" and I think that has gotten alot of City leaders in Provo nervous. I think the program is that alot of these bigger cities like Salt Lake and Provo don't ever take these other smaller cities such as Sandy, Lehi or P.G. seriously when they start talking about building highrise. So they just do what seems like nothing saying "Oh it's just a pipe dream" or "it will never get built" But when these city leaders turn back around before they know it ground has been broken and these so called pipe dreams are now under construction.
Case and point...Provo needs to wake up and step it up. If little P.G. or Lehi can get these highrises then Provo sure as hell could also. But yet all Provo has plan right now is a few 10-stories buildings. Sure it's a start, but come on let's built a little higher.
When is Provo going to get some of these "pipe dreams"? Does Provo dare to build anything taller then 10 stories?
Lee, I agree with you a lot of the time, but there is a lot more than we know that goes into developing these projects.

I will guarantee that PG comes back to the County or the Developer comes back to PG leaders saying they need more money, which will kill the project.

Look at how long it has taken Hamilton Partners to build a little 22 story building...uh, yeah... 10 YEARS!!!.

The hotel and convention center "broke ground" to get the psychological edge... they didnt really break ground. The utilities and pipes that you saw going in, need to go in no matter what... remember there is also suposed to be a million sq. ft. mall on that same property. Oh, and it "broke ground" already too... about 3 years ago. Same with the big mall at Traverse Mountain.

We need to remember that Provo had a well respected San Fransisco company do a study on Provo and see what it could accomodate in the downtown area. A developer cant just slap down a 30 story building and expect it to fly... Its hard enought getting a building in SLC, where most of the states business is done, let alone a smaller city just 40 miles south.

The P.G. area will be developed, but as for these huge projects... I bet 90% of them, we never see.
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Never say never Wasatch We Americans tend to be an impatient bunch as far as wanting these great visions built now. I know, I'm definately among the guilty. I don't know if both Pleasant Grove and Thanksgiving Point will both see this huge build-up, but I'm willing to bet that one of the two will. I agree with you that many projects sure do seem to take their own sweet time. I do think that the 400 to 600 ft. towers are well on their way, and perhaps a few will be announced in the next couple of years. It's easy to forget how far the Wasatch Front has come in just the last ten years. Man, I remember just a short while ago that we could hardly get any repect on this forum, as a major metro on the move. There were more than our fair share of detractors and snide remarks amongst certain forumers. Now, those same people are often strangely quiet, or begrudgingly acknowledge that the Wasatch must be reckoned with. Before,during,and since the Olympics this Metro has exploded in population growth,labor,transportion and structural development. We have passed many metros in population and a number of key segments, metros who historically have been larger than the Wasatch. We are now poised to catch up with certain other Metro's within the next ten years, and some we will just pass them by. I wouldn't even venture to name which ones, for fear of creating a lot of hand wringing, and a few very shrill posts. Anyway, it couldn't come at a better time,as far as I'm concerned. We have learned much from areas like L.A. and many of the mistakes made during the growth of the 50's,60's and 70's. As much as many are uncomfortable with the thought of The Wasatch soon reaching 3 million, then 4, and then 5 million, at least we will be doing it on the back of mass-transit,vibrant urban cores, and electric automobiles.

TOD's are the fashion, and I think will be particularly prevalent and dramatic along the Wasatch. As the population continues to surge forward, so will the height and density of our Urban downtowns and the many TOD's in between.
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High-Rise Towers In Sandy, Utah?
Sandy, Utah – Salt Lake City, Utah’s capital, not unexpectedly has the tallest buildings in the state in its downtown area, but that may not be the case five years from now. Developer Utah Pacific Holdings has purchased land at the southern end of the Salt Lake Valley, near the Sandy city hall, where it hopes to erect two buildings that could stand nearly 30 stories tall, making them the tallest in the state.

Utah Pacific has not finalized plans for the buildings and is currently attempting to secure financing for the project on a site that 15 years ago was nothing but a large field. "It is a very exciting project," said Utah Pacific spokeswoman Sharon Cook. "The thought of being able to bring something of this caliber — the metropolitan feel to the area — would be completely unique."

This is from the latest Rocky Mountain Construction magazine.

I know this is a Utah Valley thread and maybe I shouldn't post this here, but since the Wasatch Front building boom was mentioned above, I thought I would see what some of the reaction might be. It will be interesting to see the possible state of Utah tallest in Sandy, only to be overtaken by the Gehry/ Anderson building in Lehi. My how things are a change'n.
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2007, 2:09 PM
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Beautiful New Hale Center Theatre for Midtown Village in Orem

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695238918,00.html


The new theater will have 522 seats and 39,686 square feet of space.(Nathan Hale)


Artist's drawing of the $7.5 million Hale Center Theater Orem to be built at Midtown Village. (Artwork by Kinateder Inc.)


The new theater, like the old one, will be a theater in the round. (Artwork by Kinateder Inc.)

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Old Posted Dec 27, 2007, 2:25 PM
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OREM - Donations, tax revitalize SCERA center

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695238919,00.html

Theater floors devoid of gum and sticky soda residue, cup holders accompanying new chairs, lavish hand-painted art deco walls with matching carpeting - it's a whole new era for the SCERA.



The lobby in the SCERA Center for the Arts in Orem has been fully remodeled. More improvements are expected throughout the building. (Jason Olson, Deseret Morning News)

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i don't know you guys...i'm thinking i'm with wasatch on this one....

even though other buildings--HIGHRISES are going in at other parts of the valleys along our little wasatch front, to me, it doesnt mean that those communities are building a central core to their city. orem has some 8 story building in their city, but where is the TRUE center of orem?? i don't consider the "center" of the city, just an address of 5 north state street. to me, the "central" core of orem is :

there is none. some consider univ. mall the "center" because that's where everyone goes. i remember thinking that orem center street was NORTH orem. it seems SOOOO far out of the way. but, you ask about provo, and guess what? it's the center of the city. it's the "downtown" of provo that has that feel. granted, it's a bit older, and rundown, but when developers start to develop in the "center" of town, it feels like a downtown. ...and who says a downtown has to be HUGE? it doesn't. i think when the two or three new highrises are built, more developers will want to come in and add their buildings to the "feel" of "downtown"...and i don't see that happening in PG or Lehi by putting in a GIANT MONOLITH thing that's 40 stories by the freeway.

provo, to me, has a core, and just "slapping" (kudos to wasatch on this one) in a HUGE 30-story highrise doesn't mean that that's the end all of where the city is going. although after a few midrises, a 20-30-story building fits in with those around it. i believe that is where provo is headed. they want a developed core. and by starting with a few 10 story buildings will accomplish that better...then, the airport picks up a commercial carrier: YOU JUST WATCH THE HIGHRISES COME INTO PROVO THEN MY FRIENDS!!!! JUST WATCH!!

there was also talk of a 10-story midrise going in to DOWNTOWN P.G.!!! which, i think, would look TERRIBLE!! at least now. they need some smaller 3-7 story buildings around first, get in some better infrastructure for their downtown, and then the 10-15-story highrises will come and fit in better.

we also have to remember that 20-30-50 story buildings house a LOT of people, and the infrastructure needs to be there to handle a LOT of traffic this type of development creates.

also, provo city is selling the land between 100-200 west and center and 100 south--where that old keiths lunch used to be. i think it's closed now, after changing hands...the city bought it and wants to sell it....i've heard rumblings that NuSkin wants to buy the land and build another highrise: 12-15 stories. and they will also use that land to build another parking terrace...

just my two pence...keep the change

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City of Highland sees year of major new construction

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249933/



Highland is in the midst of a building boom for big projects. There are many skeletal steel girders indicating another large building under construction.

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Looks like a direct copy of the West Valley City Hale Centre Theatre.
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Looks like a direct copy of the West Valley City Hale Centre Theatre.

that's what I was thinking too--even the lobby areas look the same. Wonder if they just used the same plans?

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if you havent seen my post under the provo thread about recession that is a possibility this upcoming year, i'll ask you all the same question:

what do you think will happen to all the development in utah valley as a result of this recession? i know it's all heresay, but, a recession is a possibility, and i could see some developments being put on hold until it subsides....with housing, credit, oil prices, etc...

just wondering....makes me nervous, anyone else??

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I've wondered some about that too Poodle. It's hard to say for sure, but the experts that have been right-on thus far, have predicted a slowdown of growth for the Wasatch. By slowdown, they are saying unlike many metro's, which will experience a probable recession, the Wasatch will still be growing at a healthy clip, but not remain in the hyper-drive mode. I'm seeing a tremendous amount of construction at the north end of Utah Valley,(both residential and commercial) which will continue through 2008.
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I am going back trying to find an article from Bloomsberg(sp) reports addressing economic growth in the intermountain west. The rebuttal in Rocky Mtn Construction mentioned that the possible recession would greatly effect the residential home market, which is already moving at a snails pace, but the commercial market, because commercial construction loans are granted from larger and more solvent institutions than the typical mortgage lenders, and secondly, construction material and labor cost would drop because of availibilty from a sagging residential market, would keep commercial construction active for a least the next two years.

Personally I don't think you will see to much of a slow down along the Wasatch Front for the next year or two. You might remember during the Novell and Wordperfect start up era, that Utah County was faced with similar circumstances, the housing market was bearly staying afloat, but the East Bay business park, Springville industrial park, and the Timpanogos Bus. park were going crazy with construction activity.

I just hope that the projects get moving now, and not wait around till funding might get tighter.
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Main Street Plaza coming to American Fork

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/250823/

Representatives of Woodbury Corporation presented plans to the Planning and Zoning Commission Jan.2 for development at the Main Street Plaza, near Target.

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