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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 12:24 AM
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If that is true that's going to —. We will have no wilderness left the way we build here.
Well, I don't know about that, we still have the Angeles National Forest and the Cleveland National Forest.
And believe me, those beautiful places are here to stay!

I may say some controversial stuff, but even i'm smart enough to say that we shouldn't level mountains like China!
(which would be utterly impossible for mountain ranges of this size, at least in this century.)
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 12:32 AM
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Controversial isn't the word.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 1:00 AM
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You know, some stuff I said wasn't made up.
There really is a proposed Freeway tunnel from Glendale to Palmdale, but now that I think about it, that would normally increase sprawl.

Can't you build up and out at the same time?
That's what Las Vegas is doing....heh, or at least, they were....
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 1:12 AM
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You know, some stuff I said wasn't made up.
There really is a proposed Freeway tunnel from Glendale to Palmdale, but now that I think about it, that would normally increase sprawl.

Can't you build up and out at the same time?
That's what Las Vegas is doing....heh, or at least, they were....
Oh I know that some of the things you said wasn't made up. No one could make that stuff up.

Vegas HAS to build up because, like LA, they don't have much room to expand. HOWEVER, you said things like 'LA's skyline will double in size in 10 years and will rival NYC.' If LA's skyline were to double in size, it would still be smaller than Lower Manhattan.

What I want to see for downtown LA is for it to thrive and become a destination for families and starving artists and yuppies, and dotcomers, and emo kids...well..not emo kids. Not until they gain weight. Skyscrapers are nice but what goes in them, on the bottom of them, what's around them, and how to get to them is extremely important too.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 4:11 AM
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Las Vegas is WORSE than Los Angeles in their development pattern. Look at the Strip..it's a 12 lane superhighway? Why isn't there a basic rail line (or at least a bus-only lane) in the middle of the street? Would you need to continue widening the road, if you had an alternative? Don't start on the Monorail; it's comparable to LA's Green Line in terms of destinations. Yeah..not that great.

All of Vegas is sprawling, there's no walkable areas outside of Fremont Street & the Strip. I really don't see Vegas building "up" outside of the Strip. I don't understand your comment THREEHUNDRED.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 4:44 AM
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Las Vegas is WORSE than Los Angeles in their development pattern. Look at the Strip..it's a 12 lane superhighway? Why isn't there a basic rail line (or at least a bus-only lane) in the middle of the street? Would you need to continue widening the road, if you had an alternative? Don't start on the Monorail; it's comparable to LA's Green Line in terms of destinations. Yeah..not that great.

All of Vegas is sprawling, there's no walkable areas outside of Fremont Street & the Strip. I really don't see Vegas building "up" outside of the Strip. I don't understand your comment THREEHUNDRED.
Vegas is in the middle of a pretty small valley. I'm not saying that Vegas will all of a sudden Manhattanize. I mean take away the Strip and it's — Moreno Valley. But just look at the Vegas thread. They have cool looking projects going on (I wouldn't mind seeing a Panorama tower or a VEER tower in downtown LA). There are a couple pockets of midrises in south LV and towards the Red Rock mountains.

Las Vegas is a good example of when a city grows way too fast in a very short amount of time. I went there last September and had fun (The Venetian is just beautiful). But Vegas has horrible public transportation (Don't take The Deuce. I'm 6'6 and my dumb — sat on the upper deck of a crowded bus. Thought it would never get out). Plus The Strip is WORSE than the 405. Took 2 hours (no joke) to get from the Hilton to the Tropicana (about 2 miles apart). The monorail is extremely expensive (5 dollars for one way) and is the Green Line of Vegas.

I don't want LA to reach that critical point (though we are fast reaching that point if not already there) where downtown has reinvented itself, LA Live and Grand Ave are at 100%, and yet we have no way to get people to downtown. Transportation is the MOST important thing in Los Angeles. Moreso than any city in the US. It's good to see TOD's and people talking about the Subway to the Sea and all that jazz but we need to get things moving. I don't want to see LA turn into Detroit (although Detroit's problem is totally different than LA's).
     
     
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LOL.. Were you CRYING when you wrote that??? lol
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 7:58 PM
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Gushing with emotion.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 8:07 PM
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I got a fun question for y'all. How many condo bldgs are there in downtown? And, I mean condo bldgs that have actual walls/doors w/in their units, not lofts with open floor plans or faux-walls (i.e. screen doors).

I can only think of a handful: The Skyline, Library Court, and the two or three Bunker Hill towers.

I ask this, b/c people are starting to say downtown is saturated w/ condo bldgs. Well, when I was shopping for a unit in January, I could only find Library Court and the Skyline that had my preferences. All other buildings were loft / open floor plans. I think we are missing a huge market. As you know, Library Court & The Skyline are sold out. Bunker Hill is as well, but I don't think about Bunker Hill b/c it's suburban-type development in downtown.

Concerto, 717 Ninth, and the Ritz Carlton are only condo bldgs under construction. Any others?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2007, 8:19 PM
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Well.. I agree with what you were saying.. It was just a little.. passionate.. to say the least..
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2007, 7:02 AM
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Women's Center and the Medallion

Read this in the Downtown News

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Women's Center Gets $5 Million

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The Downtown Women's Center, which provides supportive housing, health and education services to homeless, mentally ill and drug-addicted women, has received a $5 million gift from the Annenberg Foundation. The donation will go toward the Women's Center's soon-to-be new home at 434 S. San Pedro St., in the historic Renaissance Building. The DWC is moving out of its current location at 325 S. Los Angeles St. to make way for the $125 million, five-acre, mixed-use Medallion development. "This gives us a good start to develop our new housing," said Lisa Watson, executive director of the DWC, "and will help us increase housing Downtown for women." The DWC expects to open its new site in February 2010. The Annenberg Foundation provides funding and support to nonprofit organizations worldwide. Its vice president, Wallis Annenberg, is a longtime DWC supporter.
Slow and sure wins the race.
     
     
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What is going on in DTLA for New Year day?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2007, 6:27 AM
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Anyone else see the news report tonight showing a man in a Santa suit base jumping off of the Hanover Tower? He jumped right off the spot where that circular cutout is in the roof. I was surprised to turn on the TV and see the building that we have all been watching for so long. I wonder how he got up there since the building isnt even open yet. Any ideas?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2007, 8:08 AM
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maybe thats why the circle was made
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2007, 3:09 PM
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What is going on in DTLA for New Year day?
TOGETHER AS ONE at the los angeles sports arena.

GIANT MAXIMUS at the future metropolis site near 8th and figueroa.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2007, 6:47 PM
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Just-in-Cali, I did see that news report about the Hanover Tower parachute jump. I just wish they had said that it was the Hanover Tower so that it could get the name out more
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2007, 9:26 PM
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I really like the sidewalks around Luma Evo and Elleven.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2007, 3:49 AM
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I ask this, b/c people are starting to say downtown is saturated w/ condo bldgs. Well, when I was shopping for a unit in January, I could only find Library Court and the Skyline that had my preferences. All other buildings were loft / open floor plans. I think we are missing a huge market.
I like to think that a big reason Astani's condo bldg on Wilshire, Vero, sold out so quickly early in 2007 was cuz it, unlike most other projs in the hood, had a more traditional layout. If that's a correct assumption, then it would give some devlprs, in their attempts to be more competitive & successful, another option to select. I'm also assuming the same non loft format will be used for Concerto. I wonder if Meurelo's 717 tower will have a loft, or soft loft, type of design? For the sake of not overdoing that type of devlpt in DT, I hope not.

However, even if more ppl prefer conventional spaces to open lofts, all the news about so many problems throughout the country with falling housing prices, bad subprime mortgages, & defaults on loans, & even a growing oversupply of housing in countries like South Korea, is making me increasingly unsure whether it's realistic to expect any new major condo or apt devlpt to sell out in a reasonably short period of time & to justify any groundbreaking in DT in 2008.

That's why I think it will be a stroke of luck if LA Central really does start construction in the next few months. As for Parkfifth & the Glass Tower, maybe it will be a miracle if they're underway no later than summer 08.

Right now, the only sure thing is groundbreaking on the Grand Ave proj in early February.


Foreign Buyers Snap Up 2nd Homes in US

Dec 24
By LESLIE WINES
AP Business Writer

Cosmopolitan cities like New York and Miami have long served as second homes for affluent and accomplished foreigners. But the trend is growing. One in five American realtors has sold a home to a foreign investor in the past year, according to the National Association of Realtors.

"At this point the English are more actively looking in Manhattan than American buyers," said Ivan Hakimian of New York's Itzhaki Properties.

Mia Wilkinson, a transplanted Englishwoman who works for Rubloff Residential Properties in Chicago, deals often with British and other foreign executives transferred to the U.S. for a few years. "Before, people would stay in corporate rentals," she said. "But now these same people are turning around and buying properties."

The expansion of foreign real estate investment in the U.S. also means that areas that once were not popular with international buyers are now receiving interest. Doug Aitkin, who works for North Carolina's World Trade Center, said the Research Triangle area—comprising the cities of Durham, Raleigh and Chapel Hill—is now getting inquiries from French and Scandinavian home buyers, a new phenomenon.

In Boston, property purchases by foreigners are strongly linked to the city's booming biotechnology and life sciences industries. In addition, Boston venture funds are drawing large numbers of German, Swiss and Irish workers, some of whom take advantage of favorable dollar rates against the euro to help buy some real estate.

Similarly, Charlie Jefferson, a Philadelphia developer, was surprised when two units in a new development in the University City area, home to the University of Pennsylvania, were purchased by foreign students. "We had never seen that before," he said. "In the past we didn't see foreign students with that kind of money."

In Los Angeles, demand from wealthy South Koreans for attractive condo towers and mid-level rise buildings has helped revitalize the once forlorn downtown neighborhood, according to Johanna Gunther, a senior vice president with the Ryness Co. there. "Downtown has not been an attractive urban residential market until recently, but Korean demand has been a big factor in the change," she said. In recent years, the South Korean government has loosened restrictions on foreign exchange transactions, facilitating a large rise in Korean purchases of U.S. properties.

And Scottsdale's phlegmatic residential real estate market reportedly is getting a boost from Canadian buyers eager to enjoy Arizona's dry warm climate.

The National Association of Realtors found that 7.3 percent of the houses sold last year in Florida were sold to foreign buyers. Miami in particular is a magnet for buyers from throughout Latin America and Europe, helping to mitigate the fallout from the area's housing slump.
     
     
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^^^ wow, someone else who I agree with 100%. The mortgage meltdown is only in its first quarter. I would be (very pleasantly) surprised if Park 5th got underway in '08. Shocked, really. Grand Ave and the Bixel tower are the only sure things, besides the 5 floor cheapo valley style things that will continue to go up.

Korean market has gone into the toilet recently, so those buyers are now tapped out.
     
     
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