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Old Posted Dec 16, 2007, 4:04 AM
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I agree...Moncton still has more than twice as many starts as SJ...however SJ is picking up steam, so it could be the other way around soon

I love how the TJ and the T&T spin the same stats to make it seem like thier respective home city is doing so well haha...in the T&T today the headline for those stats is "Moncton sees 2007 increase in multiple-unit building starts" and they dont really mention we are doing very slightly worse compared to last year in overall starts...but in the TJ they dont mention the fact that 67 of the 95 multiple starts in urban NB last month were in Moncton. Also Ill point out that 2006 was Monctons best year ever for housing starts, so being 6 less than the best ever is still very good.

True, there is a lot of spin doctoring with the reporting of statstics. I guess the two general kinds of stats with the housing market that I find useful are a) the trend of (absoulte) numbers of units and b) the trend of relative increases/decreases over the years....That being said, housing start data these days always make me cringe a little bit....so many new home owners who are just barely making ends meet and up to their eyes in debt....as the economy cools and interest rates start hiking up, my fear is many of these houses will be back on the market in the next few years as the inevitable recession comes along (as our neighbours to the south are learning)....
lol...sorry....in a pessimistic mood tonite...
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On a related note, has anyone heard any updates on the plans for the inner harbour marina around market slip?
I think that's part of the Coast Guard Project...won't likely see any progress until 2009.
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Justice complex announcement expected tomorrow
December 17, 2007 - 7:12 pm
By: Andrew Cromwell - News 88.9 Staff

SAINT JOHN - The planned justice complex for the city will move another step closer to reality tomorrow.

A news conference has been scheduled where provincial officials including Justice Minister T.J. Burke are expected to provide more details on the province's involvement.

Local controversy over the project involves the issue of public consultation.

Saint John East MLA and Supply and Services Minister Roly McIntyre said the province is not getting involved in that aspect of the project.

McIntyre said the issue of a new courthouse for Saint John has been going on for over twenty years.
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Saint John Transit announcement
December 17, 2007 - 7:11 pm
By: Denise Miller - News 88.9 Staff



SAINT JOHN - The federal government has earmarked 8.1 million dollars for the construction of Saint John Transit's new operations center.

The funding was made possible through the Public Trust Capital Fund and will be part of funding from all three levels of government.

Mayor Norm McFarlane said the timing couldn't be any better.

McFarlane said this also paves the way for future development on the cities west side.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 4:07 AM
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Mayor Norm McFarlane said the timing couldn't be any better.
Sure it could, they could have announced it last year like they were expected to
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 4:11 AM
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I'm also excited to see what is announced tomorrow about the courthouse, I hope it's good news and not more delays. A project rendering would also be great, but I'm not going to hold my breath for it.


I suppose the Cruise Ship Terminal hasn't started construction yet either has it. They only have 165 days until he first arrival, so they'd better get cracking.
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[NEW JUSTICE COMPLEX MOVES FORWARD]
DEC18/07 11:27AM


{NEW HAZEN STREET JUSTICE COMPLEX ON FORMER "Y" SITE}


THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING 2.4-MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN WORK ON THE NEW JUSTICE BUILDING IN THE UPTOWN.
SUPPLY AND SERVICES MINISTER ROLY MACINTYRE SAYS THE NEW COMPLEX WILL BE CONSTRUCTED THROUGH A PUBLIC - PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
THE NEW 47-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY ON THE FORMER "Y" PROPERTY WILL FEATURE 13-COURTROOMS ALONG WITH OFFICE SPACE FOR VARIOUS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICES -- IT'S SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION IN 2010.
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Building will meet city's needs for 'next 50 years'
Transit Federal government provides $8M in new funding for new East Side structure


SAINT JOHN - It's been a good year for the Port City with the announcement of federal funds for harbour cleanup and a centre of excellence with 100 high-paying jobs to be built here as part of the Point Lepreau nuclear station refurbishment.

On Monday, the gifts kept on coming as the federal government announced $8.1 million in funding for the new Saint John Transit building.

Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson, the MP for Southwest New Brunswick, said the facility is being built with the city's future in mind.

"With this investment, we are building a facility to meet Saint John Transit's needs for the next 50 years," Thompson said. "This city is on the cusp of greatness."

The money comes from the federal Public Transit Capital Fund.

"If we're all around in 50 years, we will all be experiencing the benefits of that building."

The 115,000-square-foot facility can house 64 buses - Saint John Transit currently has 55 buses - and will be located on the East Side. The Saint John Transit Commission announced in November that its new $19.5-million transit facility will be located on the corner of Loch Lomond Road and McDonald Street, near Loch Lomond Mall. Construction is expected to begin in late spring and will replace the 25-year-old Fairville Boulevard site.

Coun. Glen Tait, a member of the city's transit commission, said Ottawa was critical to making the project happen.

"The new transit facility would not be a reality without the support of the federal government," Tait said.

Saint John East MLA Roly MacIntyre, who is also the provincial minister of Supply and Services and minister responsible for the province's Regional Development Corporation, said Saint John has had a great year. The federal fund, which totals $900 million, is divvied up based on ridership numbers. According to the transit authority, 2.5 million people board its buses each year making it the most used municipal bus service in the province.

"Saint John has by far the largest ridership," he said about the provincial numbers.

Called the Public Transit Capital Trust, the $900-million fund is divided among the provinces and territories. The money is to be used for transit infrastructure and $20.7 million of that fund has been directed toward this province with Saint John getting almost half.

"It's an amazing change that's going to happen in East Saint John," MacIntyre said.

Mayor Norm McFarlane was beaming and called the announcement a "great Christmas gift" for the city.

"I'm very excited that things are moving forward," said the mayor.

McFarlane was also quick to point out that the old West Side facility can now become home to new retail space and begin the rejuvenation of that area of the city.

"There's two or three retailers ready to go in there," McFarlane said.

While the mayor wouldn't give any details, Wal-Mart was looking at the site, but walked away recently because it no longer fit with its corporate strategy. Retail giants Sobeys and Canadian Tire location are now said to be interested in the property.

Plazacorp is buying the land for $2.5 million, as is, where is - the same deal offered to Wal-Mart. Plazacorp is also handling the negotiations with potential tenants.

In January, the federal government gave Saint John Transit $4.8 million in funding to buy 10 new buses for its Comex service to outlying areas and to purchase three state-of-the-art buses to accomodate the handicapped.

The transit building will meet LEED standards - Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design. The international designation is the benchmark for high-performance environmental, or green, buildings.

With the Canaport LNG plant under construction, another refinery proposed and a second nuclear reactor a possibility, provincial Energy Minister Jack Keir said protecting the environment has to be at the forefront as the city moves toward becoming an energy hub.

"There's a balance between building new (power) generation "¦ and energy conservation and efficiency," Keir said. "We believe it's important."
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Sounds like a number of really important public projects are going to happen in order to keep pace with current and future growth in the city. It sounds as if there is some sound leadership and vision happening at the city and provincial level. Go Saint John! I remember the bad old days for the city and they weren't that long ago. I noticed this year especially that the atmosphere of the city is really changing for the better. Hope that the strong dollar doesn't kill the tourism business.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 5:17 PM
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[NEW JUSTICE COMPLEX MOVES FORWARD]
DEC18/07 11:27AM


{NEW HAZEN STREET JUSTICE COMPLEX ON FORMER "Y" SITE}


THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING 2.4-MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN WORK ON THE NEW JUSTICE BUILDING IN THE UPTOWN.
SUPPLY AND SERVICES MINISTER ROLY MACINTYRE SAYS THE NEW COMPLEX WILL BE CONSTRUCTED THROUGH A PUBLIC - PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
THE NEW 47-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY ON THE FORMER "Y" PROPERTY WILL FEATURE 13-COURTROOMS ALONG WITH OFFICE SPACE FOR VARIOUS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICES -- IT'S SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION IN 2010.
I was hoping for something taller, but that building is surprisingly not ugly, so I guess that's one big step forward for Saint John
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Saint John council approves 2008 budget
Last Updated: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 | 11:16 AM AT

The Saint John common council approved a $119-million operating budget and a $60-million capital budget on Monday.

Though the 2008 operating budget has increased by $7 million, taxpayers won't have to bear any tax rate increase.

The tax rate will stay at $1.795 per $100 of assessed property value.

According to budget documents, the city is expecting tax revenues will increase by 7.5 per cent because of a construction boom in the city and rising property assessments.

Coun. Carl White said residents have been asking the city to provide more services instead of cutting taxes.

"They want more protective services. They want their neighbourhood, their roads and their streets in better conditions," White said. "So I think those are the things that we need to focus on, as opposed to reducing the tax rate."


Highlights in the budget include:

* $4.4 million to begin planning and development of a new police station north of Union Street.
* $3.4 million for redeveloping the Coast Guard site on Water Street.
* $1 million to refurbish the Canada Games Stadium.
* $1.9 million for five new buses.
* $1.3 million for revitalizing parks along Water Street.

"In my 10 years here, this is a very exciting budget. It's positive," said Coun. Chris Titus. "We cut and cut and cut. We cut services. We cut resources. We're starting to add and build back to it you can feel the momentum in it."

But there will be no increase in the rates for water or sewerage.

The annual rate for residential water and sewerage hook-up will remain at approximately $700.

But Paul Groody, head of municipal operations, warns that customers should expect the rates to rise in coming years.

The city hasn't been investing enough in renewing its aging pipes, Groody said.

"We must find a way to make those investments every year in the annual operating budget," Groody said. "Right now you're at $3 million. You should be at $10 million and this isn't something that we've dreamed up or pulled out of the air."

The mayor and council face re-election in the spring.
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{NEW HAZEN STREET JUSTICE COMPLEX ON FORMER "Y" SITE}


-- IT'S SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION IN 2010.
The building is ver nice but I worry it wont fit in with the surrounding area. Hopefully the police station and new parking garage will have a similar feel to this building. I really hope that this is not the only building that gets built and we get shortchanged once again.

The open glass is very nice should bring lots of light into the court when we are sending criminals away for a couple years. The coulumns in the front are also nice, gives it a true courthouse feel.

Let's Hope Hooton stops her bitching now unless its about the hieght. I agree Kwajo I was hoping for a least another story or two.
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* $4.4 million to begin planning and development of a new police station north of Union Street.
* $3.4 million for redeveloping the Coast Guard site on Water Street.
* $1 million to refurbish the Canada Games Stadium.
* $1.9 million for five new buses.
* $1.3 million for revitalizing parks along Water Street.

The refurbishment for the canada games stadium is much needed.
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The building is ver nice but I worry it wont fit in with the surrounding area. Hopefully the police station and new parking garage will have a similar feel to this building.
I think this will look good beside the Mercantile Centre. The next step is to do something with my home sweet home - LaTour Terrace. It looks a little 1960's compared to the soon to be neighbour.
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The building is ver nice,The open glass is very nice should bring lots of light into the court when we are sending criminals away for a couple years. The coulumns in the front are also nice, gives it a true courthouse feel.
Agreed. Lovely, awesome looking building. That courthouse is surprisingly modern and very classy as well. I really like the fact the building is more than 4-story !

Frankly, congratulation SJ.
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SJ justice complex announced
December 18, 2007 - 3:05 pm
By: News 88-9's Andrew Cromwell





SAINT JOHN, NB - It's been talked about in Saint John since 1985.

The province is moving forward with plans for a new state of the art courthouse.

The new facility, slated for completion in 2010, is a forty-seven million dollar project and will complement plans for a new police headquarters in the Uptown.

The province is also in talks with the city to cost share a new parking garage.

Mayor Norm McFarlane is elated the province has solidified it's commitment for the new justice facility.

"We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to re-invigorate the uptown core through the development of a new police headquarters, provincial justice building and a much needed new parking facility." said McFarlane.

Saint John Regional Crown prosecutor Jim McAvity said current facilities are inadequate especially at provincial court in city hall.

"The hallways are not well designed. You unfortunately mix everyone together. In other words you mix members of the general public, the accused, victims, lawyers and police...everyone gets mixed together." McAvity said.

The new courthouse will feature 13 courtrooms and will also accommodate the eventual closure of courts in Hampton and Sussex.
the facility will be a partnership with the private sector and a request for proposals will go out this spring.
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I think this will look good beside the Mercantile Centre. The next step is to do something with my home sweet home - LaTour Terrace. It looks a little 1960's compared to the soon to be neighbour.
Agreed....all that glass fits in very well with the nearby Mercantile Centre...should make this area of town a lovely site to behold.
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Sounds like a number of really important public projects are going to happen in order to keep pace with current and future growth in the city. It sounds as if there is some sound leadership and vision happening at the city and provincial level. Go Saint John! I remember the bad old days for the city and they weren't that long ago. I noticed this year especially that the atmosphere of the city is really changing for the better. Hope that the strong dollar doesn't kill the tourism business.
Agreed...there's been a noticeable change in the general attitude in the city in the past 3 years or so...really starting to take off the past 12 months..."pride" is a word that has been missing from the SJ lexicon for far too long....it's nice to see it back
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Congrats on the beautiful new building guys!!

I can only hope Monctons new courthouse will look 1/2 as good.
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Really great!
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