Provo MSA Development Thread

[Erector]

Originally Posted by Happy Valley Freak

I absoulutly agree, if everything was downtown we'd be screwed, i'm sorry but 2 million ppl cant all get on the I-15 and drive downtown to work every morning, that would just be rediculus,

I have gone back now three pages looking for a quote or post that say's "everything" should be downtown. I don't see it.

[SLC Projects]

the way Utah county is growing the county will need all the above...

1. commuter rail
2. light rail
3. 1-15 widening to 12 lanes. ( Just like in Salt Lake )
4. Redwood road will need to be widen on the westside of utah lake.
5. East-West freeway/highway ( MVC )
5. walking/biking paths or tails
6. No bridge over that lake!!! ( to built anything of a Icon bridge of that size over a lake will cost waaaaaay to much )

We don't need just one or the other. But we are going to need all these in place to keep up with the growth.

[urbanboy]

You don't widen roads to solve congestion! That's like loosening your belt to solve obesity! We don't NEED to widen I-15 or Redwood road especially!

Also, it might be good to put street-cars on your list

[Northernlad]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

You don't widen roads to solve congestion! That's like loosening your belt to solve obesity! We don't NEED to widen I-15 or Redwood road especially!

Most Excellent Point, Urbanboy. But, be careful with what you say here Some have the attitude that 12 lanes is like a gift from the heavens.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Northernlad

Most Excellent Point, Urbanboy. But, be careful with what you say here Some have the attitude that 12 lanes is like a gift from the heavens.

Give me a break, it's not a gift from the heavens, it's just common sense. Unless you enjoy being stuck in traffic on only a 3 lane freeway during rush hour.


And adding street cars could work as well. Like I said all the above. But roads need to be widen cus we utahns have to drive our car everywhere.

[delts145]

Lehi unites in purpose for south boulevard thoroughfare

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/247470/14/


Alan and Laurie Johnson (left) of Saratoga Springs look over a map of the east-west connector with the assistance of UDOT consultant Dennis Naillon during an open house in Lehi.

While divisiveness hounds UDOT's 2100 North freeway proposal in Lehi, with its neighbors opposing the city's alternative bid for a 4800 North freeway, there is unity in purpose for UDOT's Lehi south boulevard thoroughfare.

"Let's get it built," seemed a sentiment most common at Thursday's UDOT meeting, an open house to give north county residents information on a proposed east-west connector from Redwood Road to Interstate 15. More than 100 people attended.

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[urbanboy]

Does anyone know whether or not this Boulevard will be a multi-modal thoroughfare?

[delts145]

Growth changing face of Utah County

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695237606,00.html

The Utah Population Estimates Committee last month announced that Utah County is home to over 500,000 people. And the county's demographics are swiftly changing, too, according to the estimates committee.

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[delts145]

Pleasant Grove residents contest 10-story downtown building

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249539/

Spencer said the building would be approximately 440,000 square feet, with 20 retail units on the first floor, office space on the second floor, eight floors of condominiums and 550 underground parking stalls. Construction could begin as early as July 2008. The project will give the city's historic neighborhood an economic boost, he said.

"The idea is to have several hundred people living in the downtown area to revitalize downtown."

According to downtown resident Mark Riddle, two neighborhood meetings were held last week to discuss the proposed project.



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[delts145]

UDOT reveals specific plans for future I-15

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249271/17/

The reconstruction of I-15 is expected to cost three and a quarter billion dollars if funded today, and will only get more expensive as time goes on, said Geoff Dupaix of UDOT.

UDOT believes they may be able to keep three lanes of traffic open in each direction during the entire construction project, good news for commuters, he said. The project would add two lanes in each direction from Bangerter Highway to Payson, and rebuild or revamp every intersection of the freeway in Utah County.

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[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by delts145

Pleasant Grove residents contest 10-story downtown building

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249539/

Spencer said the building would be approximately 440,000 square feet, with 20 retail units on the first floor, office space on the second floor, eight floors of condominiums and 550 underground parking stalls. Construction could begin as early as July 2008. The project will give the city's historic neighborhood an economic boost, he said.

"The idea is to have several hundred people living in the downtown area to revitalize downtown."

According to downtown resident Mark Riddle, two neighborhood meetings were held last week to discuss the proposed project.



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I say good for you P.G with all your new midrise/highrise projects. I don't see what's so bad about this 10-story building.

It's about time we are starting to see more utah cities starting to build up. P.G. will soon have it's own little skyline with this 10-story building and the 14-story hotel.

Good things about this project.
1. Eight floors will have Condo space so people can live downtown.
2. It will have underground parking
3. It will be a economic boost.
4. It will have ground level retail ( 20 retail units )
5. It will be 10-stories.


Will this building replace any of the historic buildings? Will any historic get torn down. Poeple just go way out of their own way and find things to 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 about. For those people who don't like things to get deveolop around them I say move up to the wyoming farm lands where there's no buildings for miles. It's called growth people and we are seeing alot of it here in Utah. Get used to it.

[wrendog]

How dare they build anything over 5 stories outside of the downtown SLC core!!! Don't they understand?????? Greedy developer bastards!

[urbanboy]

I don't have a problem with this development. It sounds to me like PG is catching on to the ethics of Urban Planning. Maybe next they'll establish an urban growth boundary.

[wrendog]

Dangit! I wanted to start a fight with you urbanboy! You blew it!

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by wrendog

Dangit! I wanted to start a fight with you urbanboy! You blew it!

LOL. yea I thought urbanboy was going to say something bad about it. But I think most of us on here will agree that this will be good for downtown P.G.
I'm happy the way P.G. is heading with most of their new projects.

[Wasatch_One]

I think this building would be out of place in little PG. I would like maybe 3 130,000 sq ft buildings in place of one massive, squat, 400,000 sq ft building.

And as a reference point, the *proposed* converntion center hotel is probably 3 miles away, so nowhere near this project location. But im not worried, cause the CC hotel will never get built.

I used to live in PG for a few years when I was young. It has a quaint little downtown with quite a few historic buildings. I would like to see them revitalize their main st in other way besides plopping down a big sucker like this project.

[Erector]

Originally Posted by delts145

Pleasant Grove residents contest 10-story downtown building

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249539/

Spencer said the building would be approximately 440,000 square feet, with 20 retail units on the first floor, office space on the second floor, eight floors of condominiums and 550 underground parking stalls. Construction could begin as early as July 2008. The project will give the city's historic neighborhood an economic boost, he said.

"The idea is to have several hundred people living in the downtown area to revitalize downtown."

According to downtown resident Mark Riddle, two neighborhood meetings were held last week to discuss the proposed project.



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I definately like the idea. It will of course bring in a significant amount of traffic. If it is located by a major thru-way or future transit hub then I see it as a total win-win. I am not to familiar with downtown PG.

[SLC Projects]

I had to drive down to Orem today to pick up my sister. It's been awhile since I've been down there. Anyways while driving pass exit 275 ( The P.G. exit.) I notice that the field where that 14-story hotel will go crews have broken up the dirt and about to lay in underground pipes. So It looks like the project is still a go, but just going at a slow rate. ( Kind of like 222 South Main. )

Also Tried out that place that is alot like "In and Out burger" ( Whatever it's called ) Damn that is good. I might come down more then. LOL But I still hate the roads down there.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

I think this building would be out of place in little PG. I would like maybe 3 130,000 sq ft buildings in place of one massive, squat, 400,000 sq ft building.

And as a reference point, the *proposed* converntion center hotel is probably 3 miles away, so nowhere near this project location. But im not worried, cause the CC hotel will never get built.

I used to live in PG for a few years when I was young. It has a quaint little downtown with quite a few historic buildings. I would like to see them revitalize their main st in other way besides plopping down a big sucker like this project.

Wasatch is right on this one guys, particurlarly in regard to the location of the building itself. I would be very supportive of an attractive, ten-story mixed-use in many other areas of Pleasant Grove, but not this location. As Wasatch pointed out, this is a very intimate and quaint streetscape, "intimate,even by many other cities in Utah Valley." While the need and potential exists to pump new life into this charming Main Street, a ten story building,(probably of questionable design and especially exterior treatment) doesn't fit well at all on this proposed lot. Perhaps, with a serious out-of-the-box design it could work. I'm going to talk with the developer and look at his renderings. I'll report back, if allowable.

Just as a side note, Pleasant Grove is no longer in the small town category. P.G. is already well in to the 35,000-plus category, and booming like crazy. Thousand's of new residents are being added to the west side of State Street and northwest bench areas. The Pleasant Grove City Council is very aggressive in their residential and commercial growth ambitions. They have also shown a keen sense of preserving the surprising amount of historical and very beautiful architecture, which fills the historic core of the town.

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[delts145]

Lehi mayor fighting freeway plans with confidence

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/249724/

"It" is the controversial Mountain View Corridor. Undaunted by political opposition and pressure from state planners, Lehi Mayor Howard Johnson is trying to win friends and influence people to see the future of transportation Lehi's way.

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