Provo MSA Development Thread

[delts145]

A bold, robust vision

Staff and students at UVSC seek $500K to make historic farmhouse a campus cafe





Alex Caldiero, UVSC Artist in Residence, speaks with Helen Bunnell Weeks, age 81, about plans for a cafe in the house she grew up and was born in. The Bunnell Pioneer Home built in 1892 by Stephen and Mary Bunnell is what is left of a 60 acre farm in Orem and is now surrounded by the UVSC campus. It is the first home built in Orem. Some hope the building can be used as a cafe instead of a storage unit for desks and tools. The home features pioneer era building touches as well as an update adding skylights, modern restroom and kitchen. (Danny Chan La/The Salt Lake Tribune )

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[Erector]

Dec. 10, 2007

800 Utah County acres poised for new development

By Barbara Rattle
The Enterprise

Approximately 800 acres straddling Mapleton and Spanish Fork in Utah County are poised for development.

At the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon, five hundred acres owned by The Ensign-Bickford Co., a Simsbury, Conn.-based manufacturer of non-electric explosive initiation systems, are slated to become a mixed-use community with more than 1.4 million square feet of office space and 1,500 residential units. Three hundred acres in Mapleton are scheduled to become Mapleton Village, a residential development with 565 homes of various types.

The Spanish Fork project is a joint venture between EBCo., an arm of Ensign-Bickford, and Provo-based Presidio Capital LLC. The Mapleton acreage, development of which was approved last week by the Mapleton City Council, will be undertaken solely by Presidio Capital. RiverStone Design Group, a Park City land use design firm, is designing both projects.

As envisioned, the Spanish Fork development will be a mixed-use community with an economic development core, community facilities, residential areas and open space. The economic core will contain urban lofts, retail uses and businesses.

[Erector]

Work to begin on Commercial phase of Northgate Village

By Debbi Olson
The Enterprise

Northgate Village, a 65-acre mixed use residential and commercial community located on one of the largest undeveloped land parcels in the Provo/Orem area, is ready to break ground on the commercial phase of the project.

Development began about two years ago on approximately 400 residential townhomes, of which half have been built.

When completed, the entire Northgate Village will include approximately 700 residential units and more than 350,000 square feet of office and retail uses.

The first phase of the new retail/commercial area, located on 800 North just west of the I-15 freeway in Orem, will consist of a 72,500 square foot retail/office complex called Il Centro Piazza, following the Tuscan theme of the development.

[Erector]

Speaking of Orem, has anybody heard about the status of the 8 story office building at... I think it was 1600 North and I-15, but it might have been 800 North and I-15.???

[Happy Valley Freak]

Originally Posted by delts145

That's the only thing Happy Valley. I'm just afraid they're going to put up something that has no attractive design element, and like you said, "just looks like an overpass."

exactly, if they were to do just that, it'd make the bridge and the lake an ugly eyesore, and it seems all they build is overpass like things here, GRR it drives me nuts how ugly those things are, they need something artistic and beautiful

[Happy Valley Freak]

Originally Posted by SLCforme

I sincerely hope they don't build a causeway; they are an environmental nightmare as has proven to be the case with the great salt lake. I really don't like the idea of a road across utah lake in the first place but if they have to do it they need to be as environmentally friendly as possible, which means a bridge. I also agree that it should be a toll road. if you want to live in sprawl-burbia then you should fit some of the bill for roads to bring you into the city.

isnt the causeway the reason that parts of the lake are different colors?, idk but I definately dont want a causeway, hell no, thad be hella ugly!

[Happy Valley Freak]

Something like this might be nice
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Brasilia_JK_bridge_pano.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagesc06226_rio_antirio_bridge_monniaux.jpg

[Happy Valley Freak]

Originally Posted by Happy Valley Freak

isnt the causeway the reason that parts of the lake are different colors?, idk but I definately dont want a causeway, hell no, thad be hella ugly!

see like this! ewww!

[Wasatch_One]

Originally Posted by Erector

Speaking of Orem, has anybody heard about the status of the 8 story office building at... I think it was 1600 North and I-15, but it might have been 800 North and I-15.???

I believe its twin 8 story buildings connected by an atrium and I drove past a week or so ago and noticed that they have put up a rendering sign on the property. I havent been past since... ill see if I can find anything in the Orem city agenda.

[Happy Valley Freak]

What do you guys think would look good over the lake???

[Wasatch_One]

honestly, a bridge would be awesome but lets get realistic, were not a metro of 5 million people! Money for a project like a bridge that spans the lake would be incredibly...im talking prohibitively expensive.

I think we'll be getting a causway if anything... If were lucky there may be some sort of bridge structure along some point of the causeway allowing boats and stuff to access the entire lake. That is my best guess.

[SLCforme]

Happyvalleyfreak,

Both of those bridges are beautiful, but I'm afraid Wasatch is right, there is no way we'll see anything like that over Utah Lake. Being that the lake is so shallow a causeway really would be cheap, but again if that's the way they go they had better at least put a short bridge segment (or maybe 2 or 3) in the causeway to allow water to flow freely throughout the lake, and also to allow boats to access the entire lake as well.

[Erector]

Your right SLCforme. I don't know how many remember back in the 1980's when this same issue arose. There was talk of building several islands that would become state parks. All would have access to the next by a series of causeways.

It was also brought up that Utah Lake should be diked across Goshen bay and the rest of the lake dredged with the hope that the lake would become a viable water storage during years of drought.

Fact is, and I'll do my best at paraphrasing a researcher, but basically the lake has a clock wise currant that moves from the Provo Bay area up and around toward the Jordan River. The Lake is high in phosphates and nitrogen and does have significant saline levels. Any hinderance to the historic flows would be catastrophic to the heath of the lake. Stagnation of the flows from SE to NW would basically kill the lake. Now environmentalist, love them or hate them would turn this into a Legacy Highway scenario on steroids if a causeway ends up as a solution to the access of the lake. I would love to see a large clear span bridge, but as refered to in an above post, West Lakers are not powerful enough, politically, to have 500 million dollars invested to their cause, yet.

[Happy Valley Freak]

Originally Posted by Erector

Your right SLCforme. I don't know how many remember back in the 1980's when this same issue arose. There was talk of building several islands that would become state parks. All would have access to the next by a series of causeways.

It was also brought up that Utah Lake should be diked across Goshen bay and the rest of the lake dredged with the hope that the lake would become a viable water storage during years of drought.

Fact is, and I'll do my best at paraphrasing a researcher, but basically the lake has a clock wise currant that moves from the Provo Bay area up and around toward the Jordan River. The Lake is high in phosphates and nitrogen and does have significant saline levels. Any hinderance to the historic flows would be catastrophic to the heath of the lake. Stagnation of the flows from SE to NW would basically kill the lake. Now environmentalist, love them or hate them would turn this into a Legacy Highway scenario on steroids if a causeway ends up as a solution to the access of the lake. I would love to see a large clear span bridge, but as refered to in an above post, West Lakers are not powerful enough, politically, to have 500 million dollars invested to their cause, yet.

Your all very right, but still, I absoulutly hate the thought of a causeway on the lake BARF! lol, can any1 think of an altrnateive?

[Orlando]

The people who were stupid enough to buy a house on the other side of the lake should deal with the consequences that their property is WAY OUT OF THE WAY! They knew this when buying the property. It's absurd that the people even think they have the right to propose a causeway that would mess up the environment of Utah Lake. There is plenty of open acreage on the provo side. Move there if they have a problem with the hour commute from where they are at. This is stupidity at its worst!

[Erector]

I tend to agree with you Orlando. These people moved out there for cheaper homes and to get away from the city. Yet is seems that they would like to have all of us absorb the cost of roads and access to their homes. I feel that if the Mountainview corridor does not alleviate their congestion, then they need to make new living arrangements.

[Happy Valley Freak]

Originally Posted by Erector

I tend to agree with you Orlando. These people moved out there for cheaper homes and to get away from the city. Yet is seems that they would like to have all of us absorb the cost of roads and access to their homes. I feel that if the Mountainview corridor does not alleviate their congestion, then they need to make new living arrangements.

or maybe if they built more buissness there, people wouldn't have to commute

[Happy Valley Freak]

does any1 know whats going on over in PG with that Marriot Hotel and that development???

[Erector]

Originally Posted by Happy Valley Freak

or maybe if they built more buissness there, people wouldn't have to commute

True, but I think the problem that they are having with getting business to locate out there is the fact that they do not have viable access ways in and out of the community, Catch 22. Small retail, grocery, convenience, and some service providers like dental, insurance, auto repair and such would do well there, but large employee base business might not feel that it is a good location. This is all an assumption, maybe someone in Northwest UV knows what industries might be planned out there or if I'm just talking out my hole.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Happy Valley Freak

does any1 know whats going on over in PG with that Marriot Hotel and that development???

Yea there's NOTHING going on with that hotel and ground was broken way back in Aug. I think both Embassy Hotel in Pleasant Grove and the 222 South Main project in Salt Lake should have a race to see who will get their building up first. Careful this race could be 50-years in the making.