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Old Posted Dec 4, 2007, 3:59 AM
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maybe there is a fuel stop?

when my parents flew from New York to South Africa it was shown as a non-stop flight - but in reality it stopped at a small island in the atlantic near africa for refuelling - ile da sol i think it was called

but it was "non-stop" people were not allowed off the plane and the stop was very brief
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Air New Zealand's flight from Vancouver to Auckland is 14hrs non-stop with a 777-200ER.
     
     
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Isn't Kingfisher a beer company?
     
     
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Isn't Kingfisher a beer company?
Nope, it's a "new" airline from India http://www.flykingfisher.com/index.asp
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i like their livery
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Nope, it's a "new" airline from India http://www.flykingfisher.com/index.asp
Look again.



Exact same logo.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2007, 2:35 AM
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Wow, an airline owned by a beer company. That's awesome. Maybe Molson should buy Air Canada ...
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15 hrs?? Premier Campbell must be VERY, VERY optimistic. A flight from Van to HK is already around 13.5hrs if it's a headwind flight, and it's around 1hr flight from HK to Taiwan.
HKG-YVR 10287 km
AKL-YVR 11335 km
DEL-YVR 11160 km

I'll say that's about right
     
     
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Wow, an airline owned by a beer company. That's awesome. Maybe Molson should buy Air Canada ...
They should've bought Canadian Airlines...
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2007, 5:48 PM
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^The beer selection on the plane would be predictable though.
     
     
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^ A beer tap at every 1st class seat... and pay as you drink credit card readers for coach! Make it so!
     
     
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Vancouver Airport Authority spending $1.3 million in wake of Polish man's death

Camille Bains, THE CANADIAN PRESS
Friday, December 7, 2007

RICHMOND, B.C. - The head of the Vancouver Airport Authority says that while the facility processes millions of passengers every year, it's lost some of the human touch that could have helped Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski after he arrived in the country he wanted to call home.

On Friday, Chief executive Larry Berg and airport authority officials announced several improvements they've made, mostly to the communications system that failed Dziekanski and his mother, who desperately searched for her son but was told he wasn't there.

Dziekanski died Oct. 14 after being shocked twice by an RCMP Taser but an autopsy did not reveal an obvious cause of death.

Berg told a news conference the authority will spend $1.3 million from this year's operating budget on improvements designed to make it easier for passengers coming through the international arrivals terminal to connect with those who are meeting them.

More than 17 million passengers, including four million from international destinations, come through the airport annually, Berg said.

But until now there have been no airport staff in the area controlled by the Canada Border Services Agency to help people such as Dziekanski.

"I think that we've lost a little bit of the human touch, the ability to reach out to people, individuals who may have different, unique circumstances, such as this individual did," said Berg.

The airport authority had no staff in the customs area to interact with Dziekanski, who wandered around for hours before becoming so agitated that he started tossing furniture.

A new customer-information counter has already opened in the customs hall and will provide a translation line, along with messaging services to the public greeting area and an electronic display advising those waiting that a passenger has arrived, Berg said.

A timeline provided by the authority of Dziekanski's movements at the airport shows he stepped off a connecting flight from Frankfurt at 3:20 p.m. on Oct. 13 and was shot by a police Taser early the next morning and died at 2:20 a.m.

That was after airport security and RCMP were called just before 1 a.m. with reports of someone "making trouble" and "throwing chairs" in the international arrivals area, airport operations vice-president Paul Levy said.

The airport operations centre dispatched security guards and called the RCMP.

An airport response co-ordinator and a shift supervisor also arrived at the scene, Levy said.

"The airport response co-ordinator recalls hearing the RCMP asking the passenger to calm down," he said. "He then observed the passenger back up towards the counter inside the passenger services area, reach into his jacket and pull out an object."

The two airport supervisors speculated the black object might be a knife, Levy said.

But seconds later, as Dziekanski received the first of two high-voltage Taser shocks and fell to the ground, the object that flew from his hand turned out to be a stapler, Levy said.

The timeline states that a customer service agent for the airport authority saw Dziekanski going down an escalator into the customs hall after everyone else on his flight had cleared a customs booth.

According to the timeline, Dziekanski stood face to face with the agent, who saw the man had "large beads of sweat pouring from the side of his face and temples" less than an hour after he arrived at the airport.

However, the agent did not call for help despite Dziekanski's unusual condition.

Levy would only say that training is being improved for all front-line staff and someone will be put in charge of the area.

Improvements at the airport will include five public safety officers trained in conflict resolution to intervene in a situation such as Dziekanski's, whose exchange with the RCMP was recorded on video by another traveller.

The video, which has sparked international outrage, shows Dziekanski was zapped with a Taser within seconds of police arriving on the scene, and he fell to the floor writhing in pain.

That was soon after his mother, Zofia Cisowski, and her Canadian husband left the airport after being told there wasn't any record of Dziekanski in the immigration area.

Airport improvements include better communication between the secure area controlled by the Canada Border Services Agency and the public area, enhanced translation services and 24-hour customer information service.

A so-called greeter board, a flat screen listing new arrivals' names, the city they've come from and the time their flight landed, began operating Friday, with more on the way.

The board's listings rotate in six languages - English, French, Korean, Japanese, Punjabi and Chinese.

Passengers who want their to names appear on the board must provide their information to airport authority staff.

Kevin Molloy, chief information officer at the airport authority, said that in the future international passengers may be able to stand before a video camera and have their image projected on to a screen in the public area.


Privacy concerns prevent the authority from getting a list of passengers' names from various airlines, although such information is provided to the Canada Border Services Agency, Molloy said.

The authority is exploring ways in which passengers could consent to provide their information to the airport authority when they book their trip for the benefit of family and friends at their final destination, he said.

"Privacy concerns have held the industry back from fully exploring that and I think now with the momentum we have with this incident we will continue to push that on a global basis," Molloy said.

The airport authority believes it's making industry-leading improvements.

"Of the changes that we see here today I'm unaware of them existing anywhere else in the world," said Molloy.

"Nowhere in the world do airport authorities have a presence within the customs area and now we've got an agreement with the Canada Border Services Agency to do that."


Berg said he's spoken to officials at the world's airport associations about the changes and CEOs of airports in other large Canadians cities, including Toronto, Montreal and Calgary.

Another changes involves setting up round-the-clock medical response in the terminal after concerns were raised it took too long to get emergency care for Dziekanski.


Several investigations have been launched into Dziekanski's death, including a full public inquiry by the B.C. government.

© The Canadian Press, 2007




sounds like some pretty darn good customer service.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2007, 1:05 PM
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It was a horrible tragedy, but I'm glad something good is coming from it. I like alot of the innovations they've come up with in the short two months it has been since Dziekanski's death. Hope the system works out well.

Only flaw I could possibly see with this is that passengers arriving from abroad wouldn't know to put their names up on the board; assuming they do, how? I wonder how they are going to convey the message to future passengers.

any idea how long until the system is in place?
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Another changes involves setting up round-the-clock medical response in the terminal after concerns were raised it took too long to get emergency care for Dziekanski.
i can't velieve they never had that in place already
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Im sure the airport (and/or airline) officials will announce to arriving pax about the board.
     
     
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The 2008 schedule is out. Air Canada B777 out of YVR are(all daily):

YVR-HKG (Hong Kong)
B777 service to start March 30

YVR-NRT (Tokyo)
B777 to start Nov 2. A333 from Apr 1 on

YVR-SYD (Sydney)
B777 non-stop from Dec 14 as originally scheduled.

YVR-HNL will lose AC033 (YVR-HNL-SYD)
     
     
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I wonder if the Kingfisher situation could be comparable to Virgin. I don't think they have a beer but of course they have soft drinks (among a whole lot of other things) and an airline.

And speaking of Virgin and airplanes, I was watching the DVD of Casino Royale the other day and noticed for a brief second you can see Richard Branson at the metal detector at the Miami airport in one scene. It's really random. Completely off topic but anybody know what the deal with that is?
     
     
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Just stumbled across this interesting article from the Journal of Commerce...

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Dec. 10, 2007

Vancouver airport will see more than $250 million worth of construction work each year - Construction expected to be halted only for 2010 Olympics


About $1.2 billion will be spent on construction projects at YVR prior to the Olympics. Another $2.8 billion is expected to be spent by 2025.

BRIAN MARTIN
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There are people in the construction industry who call it the “never-ending project”. Some of them weren’t even born in 1968 when it all began.

For sure, all will likely be long gone before it is finished.

It is YVR – Vancouver International Airport. The domestic terminal at the existing airport opened nearly 40 years ago as the only terminal. Prior to that, activity centred around what is now known as the South Airport.

Today that area is limited to private flights and local charters. Since first opening, however, YVR has seldom if ever not been under construction.

John Lenahan, P Eng, is the manager of transportation and planning for the airport. On Nov. 28, he met with the Vancouver Regional Construction Association to bring them up to date on construction so far and outline the future.

Current construction projects at the airport will amount to $4 billion by the time 2025 comes around.

About $1.2 billion of that will be spent prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics. It’s not hard to see why expansion is required. In 1990 the airport handled 10 million passengers. By 2020 it is expected it will handle 25 million.

YVR is among the busiest airports in North America and right near the top when it comes to Asian markets. Major projects either underway or being planned include $420 million worth of upgrades to the International Terminal. Close to half of that has already been completed with the recent additions to the West Chevron (west wing).

That project scooped up two Gold Awards of Excellence for Keith Plumbing and Heating and one Gold Award for general contractor, PCL Constructors Westcoast Ltd in the recent VRCA Awards of Excellence competition.

The expansion now allows YVR to handle the new A380 double-decker aircraft recently launched by Airbus Industries.

Lenahan pointed out that although the giant airplane, which can carry close to 900 economy class passengers is not yet slated to serve Vancouver, YVR expects it won’t be long before it shows up. A further $100 million expansion to the West Chevron is planned for 2011-2013.

Between the domestic terminal and the international terminal is the Link Building which connects the two.

It is a $100 million project that is expected to be completed within days.

A second Link Building on the airside of the terminal will be built and finished in 2009. In addition to the International Terminal some $352 million is being spent on a series of smaller projects as well as $150 million worth of upgrades to the Domestic Terminal. YVR is also contributing $300 million towards the extension of the new rapid transit line, currently under construction, connecting the airport in Richmond to Vancouver.

Initially there will be one station at the airport but provisions have been made for a second station to serve a new terminal in years to come.

The transit line should be completed by November of 2009. Airfield improvements, including items such as aprons and taxiways will add another $65 million, roadways and parking will come to $55 million and $60 million is being spent on upgraded baggage handling systems. The only time in the foreseeable future that there will not be construction underway at YVR, said Lenahan, is just before, during and after the 2010 Olympics.


“We don’t want the airport under construction during that time,” he said.

Other than during that period, somewhere between $250 million and $350 million worth of work will be completed annually at YVR.
     
     
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^Glad to see YVR is being slightly more realistic with their passenger estimates. Two years ago they were forecasting to hit 25 million in 2015, which was ridiculous given current growth. I'd say 2020 is still being pretty optimistic...I'd guess they'll hit that milestone around 2022.

To put things in perspective, YVR was expecting to hit 17.5 million passengers in 2007; as of Nov.1 they are on pace to hit about 17.3 million (2.9% growth YTD).
     
     
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I wonder if the Kingfisher situation could be comparable to Virgin. I don't think they have a beer but of course they have soft drinks (among a whole lot of other things) and an airline.

And speaking of Virgin and airplanes, I was watching the DVD of Casino Royale the other day and noticed for a brief second you can see Richard Branson at the metal detector at the Miami airport in one scene. It's really random. Completely off topic but anybody know what the deal with that is?
I think he's been on record saying he's always wanted to be in a Bond film. Also, I think Virgin was a 'sponsor' of the film (they use Virgin planes in the film, and I bet they flew the cast & crew to locations and stayed in Branson's properties in exotic locales, stuff like that). But he appears in a couple of other films too - the ego has landed - http://imdb.com/name/nm0105232/

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