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Old Posted Dec 6, 2007, 5:06 AM
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Sandy seeks Broadway theater


http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7645619

Salt Lake upset; city officials want theater for downtown arts district

Posted: 8:58 PM- First, soccer star David Beckham; now family favorite "The Lion King."
Sandy, which scored Utah's Major League Soccer stadium after a prolonged political drama, is making a play for a new mega-theater near the suburb's City Hall to stage Broadway blockbusters.


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As I had mentioned earlier I'm not at all surprised that Sandy is trying to land the theater, with a former slogan of "The other downtown" they seem to have illusions of grandeur. I don't have anything against Sandy or development occurring in Sandy but I they are as big and urban as they would like to think. If they truly were "The other downtown" and the demand was there to create another downtown I would assume that the zoning changes that they put into place many years ago would have had greater results. If I'm not mistaken the zoned the area between I-15 and the road that goes South from city hall up to 15 stories, what has been built, two 8 or 9 story buildings.

They can try all they want to get the theater but I honestly don't think state and especially county officials will let them get county money. I think this will be a great first battle for Mayor Becker. His relationships and non combative approach will help to get the theater money moving north from the county complex into the CBD. I could see the LDS church weighing in on this one also, they have just as much interest in having the theater downtown as anyone. 250 days of shows at a large theater is a lot of people that will need to eat, some of those would inevitably be eating at CCC's restaurant row.

Now is the time for the city to do whatever it takes to get Earl Holding off his ass and develop some of the parking lot between 4th and 5th S.
     
     
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Very much agreed Future Mayor, The millions of tourists who are flooding into downtown each year for skiing, pilgrimages, conventions,etc. are not diminishing in number, but ever-increasing. CCC will only add dramatically to the need for a major Broadway size theatre, for productions such as Lion King or Beauty and the Beast.

While Downtown is currently experiencing a building boom, it's only the beginning of what will become an ever accelerating pace of development. Now is the time for our Capital to get it's proverbial ducks in a row, and get this theatre off the ground.
     
     
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Focus turning to 2 Salt Lake Blocks as arts hub

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233735,00.html

The image of downtown Salt Lake City as a hub for arts and culture is coming into focus.

Planning efforts are under way by the
Salt Lake Chamber and Downtown Alliance to transform the two downtown blocks bordered by 100 South, State Street, 200 South and West Temple into an epicenter for arts, culture and entertainment.


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Let's hire a guy like the one from Nebraska to go into Sandy City Hall

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METRO - SANDY

Sandy seeks Broadway theater


http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7645619

Salt Lake upset; city officials want theater for downtown arts district

Posted: 8:58 PM- First, soccer star David Beckham; now family favorite "The Lion King."
Sandy, which scored Utah's Major League Soccer stadium after a prolonged political drama, is making a play for a new mega-theater near the suburb's City Hall to stage Broadway blockbusters.


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Urban Boy you were right!
It's time to stop political corruption by Mayor Tom Dolan and his cohorts Curtis and Governor Huntsman!!!!! Get them out of office and out of the county!!!! This has got to stop!!!!! This Sandy business of trying to trump Salt Lake City will hurt the region. We need a vibrant center, not a centerless sprawl!!!! Somebody needs to look into the financing of the lobbyists for Sandy. Why do they have more lobbyists than SLC? Shouldn't there be a cap to the number of lobbyists?
     
     
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Let's hire a guy like the one from Nebraska to go into Sandy City Hall

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METRO - SANDY

Sandy seeks Broadway theater


http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7645619

Salt Lake upset; city officials want theater for downtown arts district

Posted: 8:58 PM- First, soccer star David Beckham; now family favorite "The Lion King."
Sandy, which scored Utah's Major League Soccer stadium after a prolonged political drama, is making a play for a new mega-theater near the suburb's City Hall to stage Broadway blockbusters.


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Urban Boy you were right!
It's time to stop political corruption by Mayor Tom Dolan and his cohorts Curtis and Governor Huntsman!!!!! Get them out of office and out of the county!!!! This has got to stop!!!!! This Sandy business of trying to trump Salt Lake City will hurt the region. We need a vibrant center, not a centerless sprawl!!!! Somebody needs to look into the financing of the lobbyists for Sandy. Why do they have more lobbyists than SLC? Shouldn't there be a cap to the number of lobbyists?
     
     
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did you catch this....

Despite Sandy's play for a Broadway-style theater, Salt Lake City officials are pressing on with plans for their own venue - and much more - downtown.
Bob Farrington, executive director of the Downtown Alliance, says the capital has launched a comprehensive study of the 20 acres from 100 South to 200 South between State Street and West Temple.
There, planners hope to find space for a new 2,400-seat Broadway theater; transform the Utah Theater into a film center; and refurbish existing buildings for extra housing, gallery space and restaurants. There also is a plan for a new hotel near the Salt Palace Convention Center.
"We have architects and other consultants under contract to begin to answer those questions," Farrington says.
The Downtown Alliance has scheduled a Friday news conference to announce these updates - the latest in the Downtown Rising plan.
- Derek P. Jensen


are we talking like actual plans for a hotel, or just maybe someday plans...lol
     
     
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Thanks for reiterating those important points Viper. Downtown is in the midst of it's most exciting period of history. Most economic prognosticators have predicted a long term, sustainable period of top-tier growth for the Wasatch Front. I feel very strongly that Downtown Salt Lake City is at the beginning of a Golden Age of development. I also think that both Becker and Huntsman are going to bring tremendous growth to Downtown.

Becker has excellent relations with both parties on the Hill, and we will receive positive benefits from the respect and freindships that he has established on both sides of the aisle.
     
     
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Bob Farrington, executive director of the Downtown Alliance, says the capital has launched a comprehensive study of the 20 acres from 100 South to 200 South between State Street and West Temple.
There, planners hope to find space for a new 2,400-seat Broadway theater...


I think the block between West Temple and Main Street would be a great location to build a new Broadway-style theater. perhaps in that lawn area (with the water guzzling grass) right across the street from the Convention Center. Think how nice that might look (from the perspective of a pedestrian). The theater featuring a traditional, or perhaps modern, facade and canopy marque, next to the white Arrow Press Square building (which has it's own canopy).

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transform the Utah Theater into a film center;
Awsome! Bring more Sundance Film Festival attendies downtown!

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and refurbish existing buildings for extra housing...
Hopefully this means the old Tribune building

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There also is a plan for a new hotel near the Salt Palace Convention Center. [/B]
I really hope this does not require the demolition of any of the older buildings around Arrow Press Square. I absolutely love those buildings and hope they are preserved! I would want this hotel built either on main street next to the small Zion's Bank Building, or on the North West corner of 200 South and 200 West intersection.
     
     
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Spreading our resources around (Aquarium, Real stadium, Broadway theater) certainly is a great way to KILL Utah's economic engine (the divide and conquer mantra). Unfortunatly our unique political climate makes this sort of nonsense possible. By creating a "gathering place" where such attractions are within walking distance of each other makes Salt Lake and the rest of Utah a more competitive destination for tourism, conventions, events, and corporate headquarters (and the corresponding higher paying jobs). Lawmakers need to realize that Salt Lake City and its suburb Sandy face a lot of regional competition from the likes of Vegas, San Diego, and Denver. Imagine if all the attractions of the strip were spread around the greater Las Vegas area, or if Coors field was built in neighboring Littleton- LAME! Thats not to say that these types of developments should not be built in outlying areas, just that the core shold be sufficiently strong first.

Sandy has proven that they are incapable of planning a city/community that is any different from their sprawling suburban neighbors. It is insulting to our capitol city to claim that an office park and outdated mall constitute any sort of "other downtown." I highly suspect Sandy will have no higher a profile than West Valley in 15-20 years. Does anyone think that the E-center, Eccles theater and their surrounding seas of asphalt will not be sorely requiring redevelopment in the not so distant future? "Southtowne" as well? Lets keep the theater where it belongs- DOWNTOWN!

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Thank you for articulating so well what I've been trying to explain! Does anyone here not see the sound logic in Wasden's comment?
     
     
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I'm completely with you guys. I've actually gone so far as to boycott Sandy. And there are a couple of restaurants I would really like to try but I'm sticking to my principles. Maybe in a few years if Sandy stops trying to steal projects that should be downtown I'll withdraw my boycott but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon.
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I'm completely with you guys. I've actually gone so far as to boycott Sandy. And there are a couple of restaurants I would really like to try but I'm sticking to my principles. Maybe in a few years if Sandy stops trying to steal projects that should be downtown I'll withdraw my boycott but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon.
LOL I do the same thing, I try to spend my dollars on businesses in the downtown area, and those that are in buildings I like, or that are sustainable developments.
     
     
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Spreading our resources around (Aquarium, Real stadium, Broadway theater)...
I asked this before and nobody had an answer. I can't recall an announcement of the aquarium choosing Sandy over Salt Lake City. I don't think we can lump the Aquarium into the mix with Real Stadium on projects moved to Sandy. They moved the Aquarium exhibit to Sandy because they required more space. When the announced the move the also mentioned that to get the space they needed for the temporary exhibit the planned to move to Sandy so as to not drain their funding for the final Aquarium, which I understand is still slated for downtown.

Does anyone know any differently.

Urban Boy I think we all agree with Wasdens remarks. We have all been stating the the Region is dependent on a strong downtown at its core. I myself am a huge proponent of downtown.

As far as choosing to patronize businesses downtown i think that's a great idea and I did that for year, before I moved. Another component to that is to choose those establishments that are local, for instance go to a place Ah Sushi, Ginza or Mikado rather than Happy Sumo, or choose to go to Red Rolck instead of Olive Garden or Chili's. The more successful local establishments are the more establishments will move into the area.
     
     
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Let's hire a guy like the one from Nebraska to go into Sandy City Hall
I'm no bigger a fan of Sandy than anybody else, but comments like this go much too far.
     
     
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These developers and politicians are probably under a lot of pressure from the Oil industry to spread these projects out as much as possible. If they see gas consumption drop then Dolan and Huntsman won't be given their promised islands in Dubai.
     
     
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That would be great in my book!!!
     
     
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I asked this before and nobody had an answer. I can't recall an announcement of the aquarium choosing Sandy over Salt Lake City. I don't think we can lump the Aquarium into the mix with Real Stadium on projects moved to Sandy. They moved the Aquarium exhibit to Sandy because they required more space. When the announced the move the also mentioned that to get the space they needed for the temporary exhibit the planned to move to Sandy so as to not drain their funding for the final Aquarium, which I understand is still slated for downtown.

Does anyone know any differently.
I found this on the Living Planet aquarium website


"AQUARIUM HOPES TO BUILD IN SANDY
By Amelia Nielson-Stowell

SANDY— After ditching plans for a Salt Lake City spot, the Living Planet Aquarium is not looking far for a permanent home — it wants to stay in Sandy.

Although plans are still preliminary, aquarium officials and Sandy leaders are talking about finding a location in the south valley city, one to replace the temporary exhibit at 725 E. 10600 South. While plans have been scaled down, the new $18 million price tag is more appetizing for public officials to handle and possible pledge public dollars.

"I think it's more feasible than it was the first time I heard the numbers," Sandy Mayor Tom Dolan said. "I think the aquarium is something that is an asset to any community. It's a matter of funding in the future, how large and how much."

Now Sandy is entertaining the idea of giving public dollars to the project.

"I think if they get a piece of land and work on raising private funds, it could go along with public funds," said Bryant Anderson, City Council chairman.

"You're talking to the guy that received a phone call one day and was asked to go on a tour (of the aquarium) and didn't want to go.

But I was pretty impressed," said Anderson, who takes his grandkids there. "I'm a big supporter of it."

Whether those funds would be from state or city dollars or even both, it's still too early to pinpoint. Aquarium leaders have already met with Lt. Gov. Gary Herbert to discuss legislative funding.

What's making the aquarium more palatable is a new "phased" construction plan. Phase 1 will be a $9 million 50,000-square-foot space (not including exhibits). Phase 2 will cost $6 million (not including exhibits) and be 30,000 square feet. It will span more than three acres.

"It's not the shark tunnel, but it will be many times better than what we have now," said Brent Andersen, aquarium chairman and founder. "The shark tank that we have right now is at 15,000 gallons. If we did a phased approach, while we wouldn't have a 300,000-400,000-gallon shark tank, we would still have something along the lines of a 150,000-gallon shark tank, which is 10 times as big as the one we have now."

The aquarium was originally pursuing a $34.5 million bond from Salt Lake County for a world-class, 90,000-square-foot exhibit spanning five acres. The plan was to build at 336 S. 400 West in Salt Lake City, on land owned by the city's redevelopment agency that has been preserved for the aquarium expansion for years.

County leaders shot down the bond in November 2006. Aquarium leaders were going to take a second shot at the bond in time for the November 2007 election, but troubles with aquarium management began boiling in early 2007. Ten of the aquarium's 12 board members resigned amid a police-launched investigation of a former employee accused of stealing thousands of dollars from the nonprofit organization.

In April, the board was revamped and decided to no longer pursue the bond or the Salt Lake spot. Salt Lake Mayor Rocky Anderson was vocally unsupportive of the project, and the Salt Lake County Council was not going to approve a bond amid rumors of bad aquarium management.

Sandy, however, maintained its support. And that interest — particularly from Dolan — has paid off for both the city and aquarium.

The city has only given the project a one-time grant of $30,000 in 2006 to relocate the temporary exhibit from The Gateway in Salt Lake City to the Sandy spot. And already, in a year and a half since opening there, the aquarium has achieved huge success.

Guest numbers nearly doubled. That first year, 220,000 came through the door, 26,000 memberships were purchased and a family of four spent an average of $30. Some 7 percent to 8 percent of guests were out-of-state tourists — and the aquarium does zero out-of-state marketing. The board just approved a $2.5 million 2008 budget. More employees have also been hired to account for the growth.

"The feasibility here has been settled. No questions about it," said Andersen, trying to quash rumors that an aquarium in the desert would never be successful. "We've had phenomenal growth."

Brad Carroll, board chairman, said the board will have to vote on pursuing a Sandy location. Earlier in the year, they were hoping to find any Salt Lake County spot, but the numbers at Sandy have been so large that "within the board, there is a consensus that Sandy will be the right home for the aquarium."

"By doubling the size of even the preview exhibit, we predict that we could reach half a million visitors," he added. "The location is the big variable. And the location is Sandy."

Once the board votes on pursuing a Sandy location, Carroll hopes Sandy will then pledge its support by passing a resolution. "We hope that Sandy city will take a serious position in helping us to identify land and funding of some sort," he said.

"We hope there are funding mechanisms that are a combination of both private and public sector." Carroll said individuals and corporations who donate want to see "who jumps into the pool first" before giving money. "It's my hope that once Sandy makes that commitment, that the pool opens, that they will donate," he said.

Dolan said he will not move forward without the City Council's 100 percent approval. The council is helping to look for land. They have suggested looking at the 136 acres surrounding the Real site.

An aquarium building campaign will launch fairly shortly, looking for private donations and public funds.

A new chief financial officer and marketing director have been hired to help with the campaign, Carroll said. And, to make sure there are no problems with the new board, the board has all signed the Utah Non-Profit Associations code of ethics — something the former board never wanted to do, Carroll said.

"We feel that the hard part is behind us. From a philosophical point of view, sometimes disasters can actually become opportunities. Our organization is stronger now than ever before, and we have a more diverse and talented board than ever before."

The Living Planet Aquarium has already opened a cafe on-site, is displaying newly hatched trout and has 50 percent of a coral reef exhibit funded — officials are looking for a matching grant of $20,000. "



This sucks, I haded heard of this till now

I'm afraid that I really dislike Sandy City right now

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I've known about Living Planet aquarium wanted to stay in Sandy for sometime now. And that they were thinking about building it near the RSL Stadium site. I had a feeling that once LPA moved out of the Gateway to Sandy over a year ago that they would stay in Sandy. So if that's the way it's going to be then I think that having it near 9400 South and State Street next to both Jordan Commons and RSL Stadium would be the best place for it. At least it will be close to Trax, Close to the freeway and close to state street. ( I'm just trying to find the good in this. )
Sandy is starting to get itself a nice little entertainment district right here in that area. ( 9400 S. and State. ) There's Jordan Commons, The Expo Center, RSL Stadium, maybe now the Living Planet aquarium. It may not be a "New Downtown" but it's becoming a district. And from there we could see more development in that area like mix-use housing and retail and office space and even hotels.
Ok I might get some hate mail from what I'm about to say, but I think Sandy is heading in the right direction, but still has a long ways to go if the city EVER wants to be the next downtown. The city just needs more urban and less sprawl developments. And with some ( not all, but some ) of the new projects going on right now in Sandy that's what they are trying to do.
For example there is a housing project just South of Jordan high that is getting built right now that is just across the street from a trax stop and that the buildings will underground parking. For those people who will get to live there all they have to do is walk out their front door walk across the street. ( And it's a small street, only two lanes. ) and hope on Trax and they could go see a movie at the jordan commons or see a RSL game or even go downtown to see a Jazz game without ever having to get in their cars. I think that is one good example of Sandy going in the right direction. We are just in the early stages. But I do see a bright future for Sandy City.
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